Post AY5SqCv9oDwpyAROdc by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
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 (DIR) Post #AY5SqBtLdSuGmGaRBA by wdlindsy@toad.social
       2023-07-25T19:50:32Z
       
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       “Watching as professional crybabies like Ben Shapiro tried to get people to boycott 'Barbie' because one of the actresses in the film (Hari Nef, who played Doctor Barbie) is trans, and seeing that has absolutely no effect on the film’s success demonstrates that the Bud Light and Target controversies and capitulations only became big deals because Bud Light and Target responded to the outrage as though it were genuine.” #Barbie/1https://www.readtpa.com/p/barbenheimer-takes-on-the-online
       
 (DIR) Post #AY5SqCv9oDwpyAROdc by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-25T20:39:21Z
       
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       @wdlindsy The thing is, death threats were involved with Bud Light and Target. It's  not as if the right wing isn't scarily armed and dangerous. I *guess* it would have been  better if they'd stood up and just kept on with the pro LGBT work they'd been doing, but if a major bomb killed a hundred employees, people would question their judgment, to say the least. It's really a hard thing to figure when we have these overarmed nuts out there. It's a miracle no congressperson was killed Jan 6.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY5SqDaHLKqE1hgEjY by wdlindsy@toad.social
       2023-07-25T19:53:51Z
       
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       “It was not.Had Bud Light and Target told the outraged weirdos to pound sand, they’d have avoided the mess, but in the rush to appease the far right, they handed Shapiro and the rest of his Daily Wire goons wins they thought they could use to reshape culture around their own bigoted and exclusionary beliefs.”~ Parker Molloy #Barbie #BenShapiro #trans #CultureWars #Republicans #gender
       
 (DIR) Post #AY5SqFJgtylFOpw19k by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-25T21:34:36Z
       
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       @wdlindsy See I'm no fan of big corporations. I dislike box stores. I don't like the room they're taking up, their innate damage to small businesses, their union suppression (in many of them). I satirize them in my fiction, bigtime. But I have some sympathy for their employees who shouldn't be in the line of fire so they can collect their small paychecks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89Yj7U2Zywxt2N4i by wdlindsy@toad.social
       2023-07-25T20:41:41Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 I take for granted these folks are willing to use violence with any and all of these culture war tantrums. Bullying, which is violence, whether it’s verbal or actual physical acting out, is their signature. But you’re right, of course, that safety of workers is a serious consideration.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89YjkpgHSQvvRnPM by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-25T20:59:49Z
       
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       @wdlindsy Right. True. I'm just saying it's hard for me at least to take a hardline with Target due to the death threats in an age of hyper violent nuts.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89YkTV0DBdASLT1s by mmlvx@mastodon.world
       2023-07-26T22:53:48Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 @wdlindsy Since when is it OK to bow down to terrorists?  I'm trying to imagine a similar reaction from Target and Budweiser if, say, a militant black Muslim lesbian separatist organization started similarly attacking those brands for their heteronormative actions and advertising; and my imagination isn't up to the task.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89YlUbDbf2K9rrNo by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-27T02:43:57Z
       
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       @mmlvx @wdlindsy Well they'd have to get rid of most of their goods then, to back down. They didn't bow down. They were quite reasonably trying to protect employees from people with AR15s and bombs (as per the numerous death threats). I'm not a fan of big corporations. But they do have innocent employees who prefer not to get shot by MAGA lunatics.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89YmEKTaEybzGNf6 by mmlvx@mastodon.world
       2023-07-27T19:44:28Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 @wdlindsy My point is that when it comes to protecting their employees from right-wing nut jobs, they do it by caving to the RWNJ demands.  That's not how they protect their interests from, say, eco-terrorists or animal rights extremists -- in those cases, they mobilize the police, offer rewards for information, enforce trespass orders, etc.  I can only draw conclusions about what they actually think is important.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89Yn3jOTMDBPJQmW by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-27T20:05:52Z
       
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       @mmlvx @wdlindsy There aren't millions of armed eco terrorists or animal rights extremists. There are millions of armed MAGAs
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89Ynm2jinpOq2oqm by mmlvx@mastodon.world
       2023-07-27T20:12:50Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 @wdlindsy Two things wrong there, I think.1.  It cannot be that "the system" throws up their hands in impotent dismay due to the numbers of people opposing them, no matter how well armed.  For exampole, see how the coal miner strikes were treated.2.  There are not *millions* of committed MAGAts ready to go to jail to keep trans-friendly bathing suits out of Target.  There are maybe hundreds.  For example, only a dozen people filed the vast majority of book ban requests.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89Yoqgjw72jXE2jI by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-27T20:17:04Z
       
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       @mmlvx @wdlindsy MAGA extremists and other right-wing extremists are more populous than you think. These people are more prone to violence, too. Think of the Oklahoma City bombing. And the mass shootings at gay nightclubs. Coal miner strikes? What year was that?
       
 (DIR) Post #AY89YqDPevssyIrhmy by mmlvx@mastodon.world
       2023-07-27T20:14:57Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 @wdlindsy They're loud, proud, obnoxious, and dangerous; but they do not number in the millions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY8B6uXuAHE8CcGAd6 by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-27T20:19:08Z
       
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       @mmlvx @wdlindsy They are polled to be 24% of Americans. That's millions. In some states it's higher than, for that state. They are all armed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY8B6vU2g7jP6vSbFQ by mmlvx@mastodon.world
       2023-07-27T20:25:32Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 @wdlindsy "Armed" is different from "willing to do a physical terrorism".  Hell, most of my neighborhood is armed.  Hunters, home defense, target shooters, gang bangers.  None of us are gonna go shoot up a business though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY8B6w5GRjVOyMsKGW by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-27T20:27:01Z
       
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       @mmlvx @wdlindsy But is most of your neighborhood making death threats? Numerous right-wing militia types have been arrested for making threats combined with piling up weapons--one just tried to attack the Obama's house, recently. He was seen running at the house and stopped and his van was filled with weapons.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY8B6wkNyqOn1u7AMS by mmlvx@mastodon.world
       2023-07-27T20:31:52Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 @wdlindsy "Most" of the MAGAts are not "making death threats".  It's like, maybe 20 or 40 4-chan incels.The stochastic terrorism thing is a real problem, and has been since Columbine.  (I recently learned that those kids were neo-nazis.)  Removing swimsuits does not make it go away -- it makes it worse, by encouraging the terrorists.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY8B6xKtn5bcr9CKH2 by JohnShirley2023@mastodon.cloud
       2023-07-27T20:32:30Z
       
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       @mmlvx @wdlindsy https://www.npr.org/2023/06/23/1183931372/death-threats-and-harassment-2024-election-workers-already-are-scared
       
 (DIR) Post #AY8B6xvPbKoSgOHUBc by mmlvx@mastodon.world
       2023-07-27T20:33:53Z
       
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       @JohnShirley2023 @wdlindsy Yeah.  So, by the logic of Target and Budweiser, county elections officials should just let the GOP count the ballots?