Post AXrbQM7f18RFO5vXe4 by Moon@shitposter.club
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 (DIR) Post #AXocDnnFPYKJp6RYps by lan@mastodon.de
       2023-07-18T09:29:17Z
       
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       lol 😅 https://github.com/h2database/h2database/issues/3686
       
 (DIR) Post #AXovFKRBQOq0UBZ44W by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T13:39:05Z
       
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       @lan And this is how otherwise good projects die... Because 1 muppet can't keep it professional.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXoxz3zP6tnGhbVTs0 by lan@mastodon.de
       2023-07-18T14:07:34Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k exactly. Those "professional" corporations should quit it with their leech mentality and start realizing it's actually a two-way street.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXozDQyOYPRNzeS2BE by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T14:23:34Z
       
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       @lan No, I meant his attitude towards major corporations.I'm not saying corporations shouldn't stop the "leech mentality" but grandinj should also realize that if the corps stop using H2, it'll probably collapse.Gran should either deal with this CVE or not be surprised if H2 would basically die within the next year or two.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXp03pIDNZCQTghj0a by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T14:32:56Z
       
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       @phessler Yes, I looked at it and it's a joke.But it could very well lead to the end of H2 if not dealt with.@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXp11oeos22tsksn4K by nblr@chaos.social
       2023-07-18T14:43:48Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @phessler @lan lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXp3o6rEhn2G8aqXSK by dotstdy@mastodon.social
       2023-07-18T15:14:55Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @phessler @lan found the corporate idiot creating empty github profiles to beg somebody to do their work for them!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXp9zSZIvPDmNnFpKa by 31113@kolektiva.social
       2023-07-18T16:24:17Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan why would a *volunteer* need to keep things *professional*? You want someone to keep it professional, pay them, make it their profession.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpAH0ARG3nlVjzKcq by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T16:27:28Z
       
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       @31113 Or or or, just say: "We won't fix this but you can always help us to do so".Rather than basically say: "hurrhurr big corpie bad hurrhurr" :drool: @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpAmmThgpkeJy9X9s by dashall@hachyderm.io
       2023-07-18T16:32:43Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @phessler @lan so even if you adress this CVE with the most obvious fix - corps will heckle you with their incompetence of understanding the problem and still you should help them ?MOBIOUS LOOP COMPLETE ! \o/
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpBIu2d6Zhr2qo2W8 by 31113@kolektiva.social
       2023-07-18T16:38:46Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k The ableism really just makes your point so much stronger /s
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpBgcRcBL8lQ1nkY4 by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T16:43:13Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan professional? I didn’t realise maintaining h2 was his actual job.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpCJviCTnQiTBIuEy by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T16:50:23Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo Being professional in your communication has nothing to do with it being your job or not. @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpCo7SfMNJVb6QvvU by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T16:55:50Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan i honestly disagree. I make no effort to be professional in my hobbies, and will push back when people tell me how I should go about enjoying them, or how I should communicate about them.It’s perfectly fine, commendable even, to strive to be professional in a non professional context. But I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect others to do the same.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpDJWb9x1ysXGNhya by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T17:01:29Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo But then again, I doubt that in your communication, you go out of your way to basically throw hands at someone/something you do not like if it adds nothing?Grandinj could just have said something like: "We currently do not see any reason to fix the problem. If the corporation wants it fixed, they are free to open a PR" (or something in that direction) and called it a day.Yet, they went specifically out of their way to throws hands at corps.@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpEAMVQCnvua8tNr6 by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T17:10:53Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan I think we have a fundamental disagreement, and I believe it is this: you seem to feel like corporation derserve more respect than individuals. I do not. I’d gladly go on record for calling a corp “a muppet”, but would think twice about bad mouthing an individual in public.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpErYkwXDZN1mkaqe by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T17:18:53Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo I don't think a corporation deserves more respect than individuals, just the same amount.But I do think Grandinj here represents the project and as a result, should remain professional.Throwing hands when you represent *yourself*? Sure, do as you please (I do this plenty as well).Throwing hands when you represent a project? That's just a big nono.@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpFGPabklwBpylbBQ by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T17:23:14Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan I see your point but don’t wholly agree. What you’re describing means that if your project becomes successful, you either have to give it up, or compromise. That seems like a very good way of ensuring people don’t start projects
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpFlTceoByLK4XQm0 by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T17:28:52Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo Give it up to what? Compromise about what?Is it really that hard for people to have something basic such as common decency?Or are we really living in a world where pointlessly throwing hands at anything is deemed "the norm"?@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpK82JAvanf5PRErQ by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T18:17:52Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan I hardly think the suggestion to pay for the work a corporation is trying to get for free is indecent. It really does feel like you’re not holding individuals and corps to the same standard, which, fair enough, neither do I! We just disagree on who deserves more respect by default.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpKhRlQHCcsAeXI8G by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T18:24:17Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo I'm holding them to exactly the same standard.Why? Because when I represent a project, no matter whether it's hobby or "paid work", I don't feel the need to throw hands.It sounds less like "me not holding them to the same standards" and more like "you trying everything to justify throwing hands at corpies because corpies".@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpL2545riWJqw6lIu by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T18:27:58Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan not quite, although, admittedly, not entirely unfair.When a large, wealthy corp profits from your material for free, and then tries to convince you to so more work for them for free rather than, crazy thought, do the work themselves or offer to compensate you for your time, I believe they are treating you in an agressive and offensive manner (although maybe with pretty words). I feel it’s fine not to accept it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpLNTFd8ZdOwhhhNg by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T18:31:52Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo So, I do think they should consider dealing with the issue.However, this discussion isn't about the "free labour" part, this is about the "what they said" part.Like I've mentioned earlier, they could have just said "we currently do not see any reason to fix the problem, If the corporation wants it fixed, they are free to open a PR" and leave it at that.That is a professional way to decline it.Instead, they decided to throw hands at corps, which is unprofessional.@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpLd6XXLQil8qXBK4 by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T18:34:41Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan and we’re back to this assumption that people should behave professionally in a non professional environment. I think it’s a fine sentiment but not a fair expectation. I wouldn’t *mind* if his reply had been more professional. I do not care that it wasn’t, and feel it’s unfair to expect it of him, or to insult him because of it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpLsocriTiWDQWBqy by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T18:37:27Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo Do they represent a project? Yes? Then you *should* remain professional.This isn't an "assumption of should", this is called "common decency".It's really not that hard...@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpMIR6Xn51EnKcJaC by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T18:42:02Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan I, again, disagree that his reply was indecent. His project, his time, his rules. You might disagree, and might conduct yourself differently in his position, as his perfectly your right. I suspect he wouldn’t call you a muppet in a public space if you did.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpMrC0WqUEiCs0gtc by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T18:48:28Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo Like I said, I'd be "fine" if they did it in their own project where they represent *themselves*...But this isn't their own project... :stallman_thaenkin: They merely *represent* the project (at best).@lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpOIgsEIHiTi1nur2 by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T19:04:37Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k he is being addressed by name though. This is not a case of somebody asking "the project maintainers" to work for free quia nominor leo, but of asking *this specific individual* to do so.Another aspect that I feel is worth considering is that he merely told them no (quite firmly). You insulted him.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpOaqcYnCER9V8Il6 by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T19:07:54Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo Gee... I wonder why enaiel addressed him... Could it be because... oh idk... They replied before it? :stallman_thaenkin: Also, they threw hands, they went beyond "quite firmly telling them no".
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpOfNJpAHD5ilWo4G by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-07-18T19:08:45.208742Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @NicolasRinaudo perma fork
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpOnQg4YoVISGm7Wa by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T19:10:10Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k ... did you crop out the message *just* above the first one in your screenshot intentionally?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpP5BzHut4M6hEVpg by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T19:13:25Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo No, not really it just didn't fit on my screen but for those keeping a record, here you go.And I know what you're gonna cope with: "AHA HE WAS MENTIONED BY KATZYN! IT IS HIS PROJECT!"No, still just a representative judging by the contributions and commit history (not having done any code in almost a year on "your own project" do be kinda yikes).
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpPN7XPCPUrWEjwky by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-18T19:16:25Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k I'm merely going to repeat my earlier point that he was addressed directly, and did not in fact participate in that discussion before. The thing you were trying to disprove by showing an incomplete and misleading screenshot.Also, the fact that he merely denied an offer to work for free, while you insulted him.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpPcfUvDeInBgzZiq by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-18T19:19:29Z
       
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       @NicolasRinaudo Ok, you're just gonna miss the entire point as usual.Gotcha.Have a nice day. :gnulightened:
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpeO938YvsLoGWqg4 by ahltorp@mastodon.nu
       2023-07-18T22:04:45Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan And this is how otherwise good projects die. Someone complaining about free labour.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXpkrMxaWQJx4jFfgO by tonnydourado@mastodon.social
       2023-07-18T23:17:25Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @phessler @lan I don't wanna be harsh, but I just skimmed the CVE, and anyone that takes any action based on it, other than ignoring and marking it as false positive, is a huge moron that should quit IT and avoid reproduction at all costs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXptRDQ4GpfxXmB10q by yusef@hachyderm.io
       2023-07-18T23:15:29Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @NicolasRinaudo @lan the thing about professionals is that they get paid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqLZz7FcKuUVNLSHA by larionov@fosstodon.org
       2023-07-19T06:08:52Z
       
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       @finlaydag33kThe definition of professional is literally being paid for it@NicolasRinaudo @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqh2bAZpIRFfjO03M by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-19T10:09:17Z
       
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       @larionov Except, it's not.- "Being professional" involves demonstrating the right behaviours and attitudes.- "Being *a* professional" means you are hired to provide a certain service.@NicolasRinaudo @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqh9ab8LlxjvU8p3w by larionov@fosstodon.org
       2023-07-19T10:10:36Z
       
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       @finlaydag33kBeing "professional" means acting like a professional, for which there is no reason there because no money change hands.@NicolasRinaudo @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqhG2v9xVedVQaSoK by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-19T10:11:47Z
       
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       @yusef The thing about basic grammar is that it's pretty important."remaining professional" and "remaining a professional" are two  different things.@NicolasRinaudo @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqhal4nV2IIF8yI64 by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-19T10:15:31Z
       
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       @larionov If that's the kind of childish attitude you have ("not getting paid so I can throw hands whenever I like hurrhurr"), you shouldn't be representing a project. :drool: @NicolasRinaudo @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqhmeswLPJeW56F4i by NicolasRinaudo@functional.cafe
       2023-07-19T10:17:39Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @larionov @lan I would appreciate being untagged from this thread. I was into it because I thought a conversation was being had, but we now have fabricated evidence and insults. This is not Twitter.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqjHJAxD2i47JhjcW by yusef@hachyderm.io
       2023-07-19T10:34:24Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @NicolasRinaudo @lan sure. But professionalism is a weird thing to expect from random volunteers on the internet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXqmuSmrhwEF5BncCu by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-19T11:15:07Z
       
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       @yusef I guess common decency is a weird thing to expect from random volunteers on the internet. :drool:  @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrS1lRErEdJ4mHdoG by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2023-07-19T18:53:04Z
       
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       @lan Gentle reminder that Apple, once the largest corporation on planet earth, still a TRILLION dollar corporation, only donated $5 to FreeBSD, despite their entire operating systems relying on it
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrS6BdnNZU1V4GXQG by matty@nicecrew.digital
       2023-07-19T18:56:38.824294Z
       
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       They could have donated up to $24 give them some credit dude
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrSEwLTcITGfUs4ky by HWABAG@bae.st
       2023-07-19T18:58:15.108937Z
       
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       @ErikUden @lan based.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrTDr5RmYsO1XQ6eO by cereal@shitposter.club
       2023-07-19T19:09:13.974772Z
       
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       @lan I mean, how about you set your highly paid genius developers toward that target for a moment instead of trying to bully volunteers into doing it?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrTTIwMVQpskmXNUe by cereal@shitposter.club
       2023-07-19T19:12:02.885447Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan did I miss where you explained how a project implodes as soon as some major corp pulls out?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrTbeIYysmrJLtuNM by dookie@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2023-07-19T19:13:31.998505Z
       
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       who cares if the corp leaves. they dont contribute back to projects 99% of the time
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrUy67cJZAdvf36Fk by meso@the.asbestos.cafe
       2023-07-19T19:28:48.615352Z
       
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       @ErikUden @lan Apple actually uses their own BSD kernel, darwin
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrVodVJRgNSWKBVs8 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2023-07-19T19:36:12Z
       
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       @0x4d696b75 @lan the screenshot was old, my bad. But it shouldn't be Apple's Software Engineers donating but the trillion dollar company Apple itself. “the majority of modern MacOS relies on” shouldn't be a $1000 - $4999 donation but enough to fund all the FreeBSD devs for all of eternity.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrWIloN7hYWyNT6vI by wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org
       2023-07-19T19:21:35Z
       
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       @ErikUden @lan Gentle reminder that this isn't actually true. Per https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-donors/donors/, Apple Inc. paid:2023: $250–$4992022: $1000–$49992021: $1000–$49992020: $250–$4992019: $1000–$49992018: $1000–$4999So that's $4500–$20994 total over the past 5½ years. So aktually, the trillion dollar corporation has paid not even 18 months' *US minimum wage* ($7.25/hr) for one person. Across 5½ years.But hey. It's more than $5, so it's totally fair, right?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrbPKYNMjmSEPvyOu by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2023-07-19T20:39:37Z
       
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       @ariadne @0x4d696b75 @lan this isn't about money. It's about sending a message. If FreeBSD would've been GPL licensed MacOS would be FOSS like Android. Imagine all the Hackintosh potential, how incredible it'd be to have a FOSS operating system that's widely used! We'd have a real alternative to Windows not an even shittier alternative. Devs don't get more money, but at least their work doesn't go to waste.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrbQM7f18RFO5vXe4 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-07-19T20:40:53.072710Z
       
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       @cereal @lan mixed feelings here. most H2 users aren't vulernable, the issue is that shitty CVE scanners just see H2 in your depdendencies and match it with a CVE and mark it as a critical vulnerability. you're only vulnerable if you use the library in a nonstandard way.On the other hand why are they so resistant to removing that command line option, the CVE is absolutely correctit would take little effort if corporations wanted to pay just a little money, to make a downstream fork of H2 that does NOTHING but remove that CLI option and they'll avoid the CVE so they should just DO THAT
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrbTFkVAcrmUOTaXQ by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
       2023-07-19T20:41:40.710351Z
       
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       @ErikUden if FreeBSD was using GPL, Apple wouldn't even touch it in the first place.@ariadne @0x4d696b75 @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrbkOi76ZZXCoXBtg by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2023-07-19T20:43:18Z
       
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       @getimiskon @0x4d696b75 @lan @ariadne Well, did Google not touch Linux because it was GPL? Nope, now we got Android and custom ROMs are an awesome thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrbkVgx9HnqrF2rYm by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2023-07-19T20:44:04Z
       
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       @getimiskon @0x4d696b75 @lan @ariadne You're probably right about Apple not doing it, but hey: the temptation would've been there. Good chance Apple would've killed off the idea of MacOS entirely if they didn't have such a readily available OS free to use with zero consequences for doing so
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrbuxuV5VfbGuMpdo by i@declin.eu
       2023-07-19T20:46:39.996374Z
       
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       @Moon @lan @cereal they did change it, two weeks agohttps://github.com/h2database/h2database/commit/23ee3d0b973923c135fa01356c8eaed40b895393cve spam is mostly a meaningless time waste anyways, a protest of them in this manner is well deserved
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrc3ssVAPecGqgXnk by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
       2023-07-19T20:48:17.289988Z
       
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       @ErikUden well, it depends on what each corporation does. I think Google doesn't make most of their money from their OSes, but rather on the online services they provide, which is better for them to make everybody use it. On the other side, Apple makes its money from the devices they make and in the software in the past.I may be wrong on that, but we should consider that as well.@0x4d696b75 @lan @ariadne
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrc5oVyMQw1Jj4FLU by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2023-07-19T20:46:38Z
       
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       @ariadne @getimiskon @0x4d696b75 @lan why'd they need FreeBSD then for modern MacOS?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrc65cGmH4aMB911M by ellenor2000@mastodon.top
       2023-07-19T20:47:39Z
       
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       @ErikUden @ariadne @getimiskon @0x4d696b75 @lan To be more like the UNIXes people knew?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrc6qbW4tOg5S9Zs8 by ErikUden@mastodon.de
       2023-07-19T20:47:56Z
       
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       @ariadne @getimiskon @0x4d696b75 @lan Well, here I'm getting ambivalent information, according to this post: https://akko.wtf/objects/068dadc8-fd64-49a9-87fe-40d14599f043 The majority of modern MacOS relies on FreeBSD. Now FIGHT!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrcI95VhDJibBZPo8 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-07-19T20:50:46.090290Z
       
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       @i @lan @cereal removing the option was the right move because it was a vulnerability, protesting CVE spam by leaving your software vulnerable is a bad idea. I'm not going to continue to harp about it since they did the right thing in the end though. just to be clear though I did call out that CVE scanners are crap.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrdLCMe4SMTaDbXw8 by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-07-19T21:02:32.654019Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k @lan this is why you use the +NIGGER license, to make your project toxic to corporationseven if they steal it, remove the nigger word, and use it anyway, they're still at risk of getting exposed and have leftoids trying to cancel them for using racist software
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrdi8i5p4ReuWZkn2 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-07-19T21:06:14.091537Z
       
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       @ariadne @ErikUden @getimiskon @0x4d696b75 @lan And I guess they also grabbed some stuff from illumos (CDDL so file-based copyleft btw) as MacOS has dtrace.I also wouldn't believe that Apple couldn't implement it's own stuff if we were in a all-strong-copyleft world (which we're probably never going to be because of things like license compatibility issues).
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrecI2KKnyo3JoZ72 by tomlowenthal@mastodon.social
       2023-07-19T21:16:53Z
       
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       @finlaydag33k The best time to delete this wild take would have been before posting it, but any time now would work too.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrez5YQuQF204hepU by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-07-19T21:21:00.416776Z
       
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       @skylar @lan @finlaydag33k why can’t cancel culture come for the northern kike (yankee)
       
 (DIR) Post #AXrfkVeRhNwoY67yNM by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-07-19T21:29:03.290725Z
       
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       @ariadne @0x4d696b75 @ErikUden @getimiskon @lan In fact the license things reminds me, isn't MacOS stuck to pre-GPL3 GNU software?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXtG6V0SZI6cQZAY9g by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-07-20T15:51:09.995431Z
       
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       @ariadne @nicolas17 @ErikUden @0x4d696b75 @lan @getimiskon Or the GPLv3 should have been a different license like the AGPLv3.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXtmhlznYuvwMng3GK by spudi@suya.place
       2023-07-20T21:56:57.524681Z
       
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       @ErikUden @lan now it's 250-499$still fucking funny for trillion dollar corpo
       
 (DIR) Post #AXwrSEJDboqQn433lA by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-07-22T09:34:18Z
       
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       @barubary@infosec.exchang Why do you people keep insisting that I said they *must* do work for free, it's quite literally not about that? (yes, it's better for the project if they fix this but that's a different discussion).I quite literally said it in the post you replied to:> However, this discussion isn't about the "free labour" part, this is about the "what they said" part.Did you not learn how to read or something? christ on a stick.  :drool: @lan
       
 (DIR) Post #AY8MsjmIbLuACc05hY by Freeben@mamot.fr
       2023-07-27T22:44:03Z
       
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       @ErikUden @getimiskon @0x4d696b75 @lan @ariadne Apple and Google have 2 very distinct business models. Apple sells mainly hardware (historically, and now cloud services), and Google sells your private data. Google does not care if people fork Android, as long as they get your data.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYM8zd9GNQQ1yfmGSe by apas_csc@ruhr.social
       2023-08-03T14:11:47Z
       
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       @tonnydourado @finlaydag33k @phessler @lan I agree. But working in a big corporation means that you have to defend the usage of H2 now again and again. This is a kind of "security exception" that will never leave your desk. The people in Big Corp running the security scans are not expected to be more clever than the CVE authors.It is a major problem right now that CVEs are considered to be trustworthy while in reality there seems to be an industry behind it already making money as usual.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYM8zeJw1EY7c3mIjY by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
       2023-08-03T14:18:35Z
       
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       @apas_csc And don't forget, the suits running the corp might look at it and go: "what's this? CVE's are bad right?" and basically demand it to be replaced because "security error bad".Had that situation one too many time already where we had to abandon something just because the scanner showed a CVE and the suits didn't want that ugly stuff on the reports (even though the CVE required pretty specific - unrealistic - attack vectors like physical access to servers).@tonnydourado @phessler @lan