Post AXlWCKXJWJIvaz1f7Y by kissane@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AXlWCKXJWJIvaz1f7Y by kissane@mstdn.social
2023-07-16T16:16:27Z
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Bluesky had a bad week as a company in relation to its community of users but a thing that is totally alive there rn and really not here is Black journalists and writers and internet people having non-101 conversations about rhetoric and networks at full speed without being hit with hundreds of identical replies about not seeing race or being asked to prove the existence of racism. I hope fedi people who care about this stuff are paying attention and not just smugly writing them off.
(DIR) Post #AXlWCMC7M5XOjp7lMO by kissane@mstdn.social
2023-07-16T16:18:28Z
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And I swear if you show up in replies to talk about clout-chasers I will can you like a sardine. :*
(DIR) Post #AXlWCNonJm4Nm4EAHg by kissane@mstdn.social
2023-07-16T17:38:32Z
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I’m also not engaging with “talking about anti-Blackness is American imperialism” lol
(DIR) Post #AXlWCPc6dv6nLIJ3mi by kissane@mstdn.social
2023-07-16T18:02:52Z
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Dingdingding“Talking about anti-Blackness is oppressively American” Indeed, where else has any Black people or indeed anti-Black racism? It is a conundrum.
(DIR) Post #AXlWCRME9vaykctPJQ by kissane@mstdn.social
2023-07-16T18:13:39Z
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I had a polite UK person carefully explain to me last month that racism is of course common outside the US but *talking about it* is oppressive and unwelcome. I get that this is making lots of my fellow Global North folks viscerally uncomfortable. There is obviously very real culture clash at work. But I’m online to work toward networks that are safe and joyful for Black and brown and queer and trans people + everyone else dealing with well-founded fear of persecution and abuse.
(DIR) Post #AXlWQHvK1zTbXvuY8O by fringemagnet@mstdn.social
2023-07-16T18:20:18Z
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@kissane The obliviousness of people who genuinely believe that we don't have any racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, or such issues in Europe, and label these as purely "American problems", is truly terrifying. The same goes for the "yes, but we don't discuss these things here" people, which is a stance purely rooted in privilege. These are global issues, and discussing them and challenging them is vital to creating safer, more inclusive spaces.
(DIR) Post #AXlWRs4x5lPRyBAcka by adriano@lile.cl
2023-07-16T18:22:26Z
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@kissane moreover, the USA are right now exporting (with others) hatred everywhere. We hear the same arguments from far right politicians everywhere. Helping build Black communities in the USA is in everyone’s best interest.
(DIR) Post #AXlWVH2QkZlUFSc5c8 by The_Icarian@federated.press
2023-07-16T18:29:56Z
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@kissane Considering the polite little UK caused the vast proportion of the racism problem in USA they should feel a wee bit uncomfortable.For a wee bit of context, the ENTIRE plantation system was R&Ded in #Ireland where the result was a million people starving to death although the nation was exporting food to a nation -- #England -- that couldn't feed itself then and can't feed itself now.
(DIR) Post #AXlWarRunnjmchCKNE by FinalOverdrive@kolektiva.social
2023-07-16T20:30:37Z
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@kissane So in that sense, everyone outside the US in the Global North is socially behind the US in that regards.
(DIR) Post #AXlWas72KudAgERATA by kissane@mstdn.social
2023-07-16T20:55:17Z
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@FinalOverdrive Not remotely, the US is full of racists. But in a lot of US spaces it’s permissible to talk about it, though many people are trying super hard to change that here.
(DIR) Post #AXmbZT2mkV3DZRYftA by eliptic@mstdn.social
2023-07-17T10:49:13Z
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@kissane I agree with you that there is some culture clash between the UK and US and the discourse around race a good example. Due to the common language, here in the UK we are able to readily consume American media, which from a British perspective can seem obsessed with race and references to it. Each culture (and sub-culture) has its own conventions about how subjects are approached and that's fair enough in my opinion.May we all acknowledge our differences on the internet!
(DIR) Post #AXnMRBxB6QVw5vUWQq by evan@cosocial.ca
2023-07-16T17:41:41Z
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@kissane so, there are two things here.One is technical. We have an Oort cloud of troll instances set up specifically for harassment and abuse. They find Black people (among others) on poorly-moderated instances and send them threatening images or texts. When those Black people rightfully complain, people on better-moderated instances have the trolls blocked and literally can't see the abusive content.The other is the normal willful blindness to oppression that privileged people have.
(DIR) Post #AXnMRCdiYGXeDrOUjo by evan@cosocial.ca
2023-07-16T17:48:07Z
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@kissane the first one has got to feel like the most insane gaslighting ever. When you've just received a death threat, having someone say, "I've never seen any racism here, everyone seems really nice" must be so infuriating.
(DIR) Post #AXnMRDHm9KaIE68UAy by evan@cosocial.ca
2023-07-16T17:57:17Z
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@kissane I think there are some basic steps that can be taken.1) joinmastodon.org needs to delist servers that don't actively update their domain blocklists. These servers simply aren't safe for Black people or practically anyone else.2) We need more Black-focused and -run instances.3) We need a Black-run portal like joinmastodon to help new people find safe spaces and good connections.
(DIR) Post #AXnMREZBO66QCNHtwm by evan@cosocial.ca
2023-07-16T17:57:40Z
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@kissane Having Black-run spaces doesn't let the rest of us off the hook for being antiracist and running antiracist instances and services. It might help start repairing the damage done so far, though.
(DIR) Post #AXnMRFvYKPagQ2lHSC by evan@cosocial.ca
2023-07-16T18:33:59Z
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@kissane so, to keep myself from pontificating without any action, here's a next step:I started a GoFundMe for Black-run fediverse infrastructure. Instances, directories, portals, relays, search, tools, whatever.It can pay for hosting costs or cloud services or even stipends for people's time and energy.https://gofund.me/0f75ec42
(DIR) Post #AXqCyQ3CEAW1P61bf6 by Pagan_Animist@beekeeping.ninja
2023-07-16T16:45:12Z
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@kissane We care. We pay attention. We follow Black creators.We promote Black contributors. We re-post them. We attempt to encourage them.I support them in every way I know how. I keep my mouth shut and listen, except to display my allyship when I think it’s appropriate.I don't have a white savior complex. I’ve never discounted or minimized any experience they have communicated.We report and block racists. Suggestions?
(DIR) Post #AXqCyRGhhQulBHLuM4 by Soma@detroitriotcity.com
2023-07-19T04:32:27.248273Z
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@Pagan_Animist @kissane White existence is racism, therefore blow your brains out. :mcnutt_suicide: