Post AXlJzIbMCfzMNdw94a by curtis@social.teci.world
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(DIR) Post #AXl73k6YaerFQzJpWy by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T17:32:32.555848Z
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ChatGPT, Dall-E 2, Midjourney - all proprietary software, BUT all copyright for anything it produces is assigned to you. This is a superpower, and probably the best opportunity Free Culture has ever had. Generate a bunch of useful graphics and CC license it, or public domain. There is a huge freedom prospect even though the code is proprietary.
(DIR) Post #AXl7D0ZoiXK97xQIpU by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T17:33:29.871741Z
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Note that this isn't necessarily the case for all AI products. I specifically reviewed the Terms of Service for those 3.
(DIR) Post #AXl7UXYJMqzoK44wtc by Marakus@poa.st
2023-07-16T17:34:48.922111Z
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@alex Pretty sure mirican judges said that no one owns content generated by AI, since its generated from other people work.
(DIR) Post #AXl7UYKWTbYojadS2i by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T17:37:21.053000Z
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@Marakus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcvd5JZkUXY&t=35s
(DIR) Post #AXl7eFqu1zZ6K3PIS8 by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
2023-07-16T17:39:09.212379Z
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@alex @Marakus fascinating recommendations
(DIR) Post #AXl7oXurizp7F6ATCq by joshix@fosspri.de
2023-07-16T17:40:28Z
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@alex they don't have any rights on the training data. They just stole it from random places on the internet.
(DIR) Post #AXl7oYSBj6TiuRl596 by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T17:40:58.238257Z
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@joshix That's the same for a human being creating "original works".
(DIR) Post #AXl7uDKXAxuj8LsQRk by animeirl@shitposter.club
2023-07-16T17:42:06.717047Z
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@alex @Marakus copyright is a giant scam
(DIR) Post #AXl8DAKUYZ2pKTtU0m by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T17:45:25.494687Z
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@joshix In my experience none of these AI services infringe on copyright. They does not produce derivative works, they produce original works inspired by the vast library of training data.They DO potentially infringe trademarks (depending on how you use the resulting images, of course). Like, you can get an AI to draw you a picture of Mario. But it would not be based on any previously existing Mario picture, it would be an all new image of Mario. This is similar to fan art.
(DIR) Post #AXl8UevW3Akp9DYMDY by meowski@fluf.club
2023-07-16T17:48:41.916467Z
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@joshix @alex "stole it" -> "used it"
(DIR) Post #AXl8kcoffFWHEfxrzk by joshix@fosspri.de
2023-07-16T17:48:04Z
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@alex nope, that's not how it works.The models get trained with data (images + text).Then when you feed it data it uses a compressed form of the input data and the prompt to generate an image. There is nothing intelligent about that process. There is nothing really new created.Of course the images have probably never existed before. But you didn't produce something new if you just merge existing images.
(DIR) Post #AXl8kdU9B2hFJJMzdw by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T17:51:26.655286Z
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@joshix And what do you think our brain does when we create something new?
(DIR) Post #AXl94SEii3bgDMbWj2 by joshix@fosspri.de
2023-07-16T17:52:54Z
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@alex we think. We have intelligence. We have emotions. We experience the world. We get much more input.
(DIR) Post #AXl94SpEWIoW2bggdc by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T17:55:02.461026Z
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@joshix The only way your point of view makes sense is if you believe humans have a soul.
(DIR) Post #AXl9ii2zLRImpmJOyG by joshix@fosspri.de
2023-07-16T17:59:04Z
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@alex Why? Our brains are far more complex than simple "AI".
(DIR) Post #AXl9iilefN1z4JD4am by alex@gleasonator.com
2023-07-16T18:02:18.262853Z
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@joshix For the prompt "edible diamond", you can't tell me this isn't creative. I'm not sure whether the task of being creative just isn't as special or hard as we thought, or if the AI is just advanced enough to be creative. But the outcome from AI is at least equal to what a creative human can do, and far more consistent.
(DIR) Post #AXlCwMsj8NTl6hiV72 by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-16T18:38:04.692860Z
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Right, If I look at someone's work and it influences the design of my own work am I a criminal too?When you can hear the direct influence bands had on an artist through their own music are they morally corrupt?Nobody would have said so a couple years ago :shrug:
(DIR) Post #AXlEATvjpApoyaQ2T2 by rude@kys.moe
2023-07-16T18:52:17.086758Z
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@alex @joshix Using images that you dont have the rights to in order to produce a commercial product is what would be copyright infringement, not the resulting image created by the AI.
(DIR) Post #AXlF25x5BuyOFKc33A by joshix@fosspri.de
2023-07-16T18:59:42Z
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@rude @alex that's exactly what OpenAI and Midjourney are doing.
(DIR) Post #AXlF26dGf4iWMALjns by rude@kys.moe
2023-07-16T19:01:58.312710Z
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@joshix @alex They are going to make so much money they dont really care about these lawsuits they will inevitably lose. Its pennies by comparison.
(DIR) Post #AXlJzIbMCfzMNdw94a by curtis@social.teci.world
2023-07-16T19:57:29.433403Z
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@feld @alex @joshix Wild and wooly, as it should be
(DIR) Post #AXlLO4y488r5I1wFOq by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2023-07-16T20:13:12.247193Z
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@alex Ralph MacQuarrie admitted that C-3PO was based on Maria from Metropolis and R2-D2 was based on the Drones Huey, Duey and Louie from Silent Running. He deliberately made R2 round instead of angled to not be too on the nose.
(DIR) Post #AXmbGyMI687tBmrYY4 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-07-17T10:45:45.049377Z
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@alex >all copyright for anything it produces is assigned to you.The whole idea is the copyright can only be applied to creative works authored by a human.Either these automated plagiarism tools infringe copyright, or their output doesn't qualify for copyright.>In my experience none of these AI services infringe on copyrightDo you have a source for that claim better than "just believe me bro"?>They do not produce derivative works, they produce original works inspired by the vast library of training data.Computers are meant to be deterministic and therefore cannot produce anything original - all they can do is calculations, although those calculations can be used to copy data and do transformations on it.What you're saying is that you have access to some software that you can put non-random numbers into and get truly random numbers out - that's preposterous.>Like, you can get an AI to draw you a picture of Mario. But it would not be based on any previously existing Mario pictureHow on earth is a computer meant to output a picture of mario without basing it off pictures on mario inputted into it?>it would be an all new image of Mario. This is similar to fan art.The thing is, fan works have been found to be derivative works of the original works many times in court.In countries with fair use, provided you meet the fair use requirements, fan art of mario is permitted, otherwise it is forbidden (although if you draw an original character that looks somewhat like mario, but clearly isn't, that may not be a derivative work).