Post AXkd4KKetsP1APHG52 by jared@mathstodon.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #AXkJ29fhZDGmRPo61A by lupyuen@qoto.org
       2023-07-16T08:08:43Z
       
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       Shopify "has rolled out a calculator embedded in employees’ calendar app that estimates the Cost of any Meeting with three or more people"https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/working-life/shopify-fuels-meeting-purge-shaming-employees-cost-calculator
       
 (DIR) Post #AXkd4B69ESRoWnQ2iG by jared@mathstodon.xyz
       2023-07-16T11:42:35Z
       
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       @lupyuen this sounds like a great way to infer whether I’m underpaid, especially with a large company.Pick any three peers and add myself to the meeting. Divide by four. Does this match my equivalent hourly pay?And besides… why would I care about the “cost” of the meeting? For whom is this tool made? I would not normally call a meeting unless I consider it net valuable for the business, and my judgment on that value isn’t based on the employee pay scale and present benefits — it’s based on future benefits of having been informed and aligned on business needs.I find the tool amusing but suspect it introduces bad incentives, e.g. keeping shorter meetings on the calendar for smaller groups of lower paid employees, while possibly increasing the overall communication loop-backs to inform outside groupings.The company culture really needs to be in sync to make it work well without creating interpersonal friction. In which case— why even bother making these estimations?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXkd4JcLYcxOwyXs0m by niclas@angrytoday.com
       2023-07-16T11:56:31Z
       
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       @jared Sounds like you haven't worked in large organizations that indeed have a lot of wasteful meetings.I was once at Morgan Stanley, in IT, and just about everyone had fully booked calendars, so if we attended all meetings, production&deployment&support would halt to a standstill.And from my own observation, many people in larger meetings were simply not paying attention either. Just there to get away for a while.I don't know if Shopify is facing this kind of environment.@lupyuen
       
 (DIR) Post #AXkd4KKetsP1APHG52 by jared@mathstodon.xyz
       2023-07-16T11:46:11Z
       
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       @lupyuen oh wait a sec, here’s the problem “””Executives and their employees both say they spend hours each week in meetings that could disappear without consequence.“””Sounds like initiative has been lost in general, so the idea is to introduce a distracting protocol to reduce opportunities to engage with decision making? Good luck to all that 👍