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(DIR) Post #AXh3qCE4AAKY6LqAgy by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T18:37:21Z
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I have only just recently looked up what the difference is between a federation and a confederation: roughly, in a confederation membership is voluntary, whereas in a federation it is not.The Fediverse is actually a confederacy…I don’t know why I am telling you this.
(DIR) Post #AXh4EE7AnA9GuS4hoO by calotriton@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T18:39:30Z
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@john the galactic republic is a confederation because the power resides on the planets, but i'm not sure if they're consistent with this
(DIR) Post #AXh4GqHjqWrDs8GQls by accretionist@techhub.social
2023-07-14T18:40:34Z
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@john we need a collective noun (gaggle of geese, murder of crows, etc)a social of servers?
(DIR) Post #AXh4XYPLZCW5Ljn8Sm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T18:41:11Z
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@john this isn’t helping, John. LMAO
(DIR) Post #AXh4fzXEamaDneVJrs by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T18:44:27Z
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@accretionist a… wait for it… network?
(DIR) Post #AXh4hDCdGHGGTlRwJ6 by SallyStrange@strangeobject.space
2023-07-14T18:44:32Z
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@john aha! I knew there was something nefarious about the Federation of Planets
(DIR) Post #AXh52Bn5hqrWBIVPcW by barrygoldman1@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T18:49:16Z
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@john @futurebird alas if the u.s. had remained a confederacy. sigh..
(DIR) Post #AXh573LCY9zpQFmP4q by accretionist@techhub.social
2023-07-14T18:49:51Z
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@john
(DIR) Post #AXh5A5WMtudR3KRyaG by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T18:51:14Z
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@futurebird obviously not, but it has been rattling around in my head for days, and it just had to come out!
(DIR) Post #AXh5Mme2OTOKH15iIi by Frances_Larina@sfba.social
2023-07-14T18:54:35Z
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@john The problem at least here in America is..well, "Confederacy' has certain racist, bigoted, political and social undertones. But also, membership *is* required if one wants to connect to other instances, correct? So perhaps "federation" is not inaccurate after all?
(DIR) Post #AXh5Vg2uIVgAPhxr3w by vambenepe@mastodon.social
2023-07-14T18:56:00Z
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@john
(DIR) Post #AXh5itep09duOT0CMi by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T18:58:31Z
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@Frances_Larina uh, yeah, that’s precisely why it was rattling around in my head since I read it, and had to come out.Individual servers can defederate at any time from everyone else. They can make their own rules without oversight from a higher authority. These are the sorts of things that differentiate a federation from a confederation.
(DIR) Post #AXh7ND18XbONyVE5HE by Illuminatus@mstdn.social
2023-07-14T19:16:56Z
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@john You also have the Confederation Helvetique (Switzerland), in case you want to have a more positive* association with the word/idea.*As positive as can be a state whose economy is based on being a Black Money Haven, hiding Nazi-stolen wealth, and (ugh) Néstle.
(DIR) Post #AXh7cNYddOip0c8704 by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T19:19:51Z
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@Illuminatus ha, yes, it is quite hard to find positive connotations with the word.
(DIR) Post #AXh7zcKcs4jLURelii by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T19:23:48Z
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@n1ckfg @futurebird I’m sure it’s fine, just go with it!
(DIR) Post #AXh8c4xis6XFI4Heds by MichaelPorter@ottawa.place
2023-07-14T19:30:53Z
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@john Clearly, you are trying to get us all to call it the Confediverse, Mr. *Con*way!
(DIR) Post #AXh8mUoVbz0UMYwPy4 by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T19:32:44Z
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@MichaelPorter found out! Although I think being the president of the Confediverse would be the worst job in the world.
(DIR) Post #AXhBxiLDxLFHMlHgzg by BornAgainEmo@retro.pizza
2023-07-14T20:08:31Z
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@john You're telling me this is a confettiverse?
(DIR) Post #AXhJ15J1jKw18ZoKqu by ByronPendason@im-in.space
2023-07-14T21:27:24Z
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@johnThe term #confederacy unfortunately was ruined back in the 1860s because of a bunch of white supremacists in the Southern USA who felt that their states' rights to own people of color was being threatened.
(DIR) Post #AXhJDN49WZnth6iDSa by WilliamBabey@mastodon.social
2023-07-14T21:29:44Z
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@john Uhm I have learned in politics lesson that the difference is a federation has a central power, a confederation doesn't. That's why my country is only a Confederation by name.
(DIR) Post #AXhLkkgoufAmQUqMqG by maxthyme@artisan.chat
2023-07-14T21:58:17Z
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@john JOHN THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
(DIR) Post #AXhPmojjElhlNDRbs0 by kspatlas@social.linux.pizza
2023-07-14T22:43:28Z
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@john and together, we can change that
(DIR) Post #AXhWF2AFVRMwqtgecC by john@sauropods.win
2023-07-14T23:55:49Z
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@ByronPendason really? You see, I’ve been living under a rock for the last 160 years, so this is news to me! 😉
(DIR) Post #AXiVgc9Xu59FUXuCSu by nellie_m@autisticpri.de
2023-07-15T11:24:06Z
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@john @gringene maybe because ActivityPub isn’t voluntary if you want to federate?
(DIR) Post #AXjRfXVLUlx87vII8e by zigi_now9@neurodifferent.me
2023-07-15T22:13:57Z
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@john As a citizen of Poland, I find that mildly disturbing. (We have a far-right party called Konfederacja)
(DIR) Post #AXjT2QvCEkoUKArkcS by retrohondajunki@mstdn.social
2023-07-15T22:29:16Z
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@john So, the Fediverse is like the Borg. Cool.
(DIR) Post #AXjTBObEEvCrjFnegi by retrohondajunki@mstdn.social
2023-07-15T22:30:54Z
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@john @accretionist A collective.A hive.