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(DIR) Post #AXgvemUchKapTPdAky by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:05:58Z
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I'm thinking of getting an electric #bicycle and a seat for the back for my 2.5 year old daughter to sit in - and this #Rawbike 250E looks very appealing.https://rawbike.no/product/rawbike-250-e/But what do the #cyclists of the fediverse think? Especially people who cycle with their kids on the bike. What's the verdict on this #elsykkel?
(DIR) Post #AXgvp61KwvRYvuqoxk by gaige@neue.city
2023-07-14T17:07:52.865337Z
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@matt id probably modify it so the feet cant get caught in the wheel spokes
(DIR) Post #AXgw7k6ceUXwT4DMh6 by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:11:11Z
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@gaige Fair point. The bike seat they recommend, that clips onto the rear rack (hold 25kg) actually has feet guards on it and supports kids up to 22kg.Seems like they thought of this one already. 😄
(DIR) Post #AXgwE3WLNgRkQ4FvZQ by gaige@neue.city
2023-07-14T17:12:22.635404Z
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@matt yeah, thats nice. seen multiple people who dont have a child seat, that just have them dangling on the package carrier
(DIR) Post #AXgwuNvvsS39tIPPl2 by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:20:00Z
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And if @ruari replies and tells me to get a unicycle, he's getting blocked + reported. 😆
(DIR) Post #AXgx0vBt8kSOm3zNM8 by brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net
2023-07-14T17:21:11Z
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@matt I hear that unicycles are especially good.
(DIR) Post #AXgx1xALHZFRBnl2pc by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
2023-07-14T17:21:23Z
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@matt That rather flimsy thingy on the back doesn't look like it can hold much weight. (Disclaimer: I am dutch, our bicycles can take another adult person on the back, no prob :)
(DIR) Post #AXgx8hnonjC3ZHRTOa by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:22:36Z
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@admin @flyyn @admins Can I get a boost 🚀 of the above post? ☝️
(DIR) Post #AXgxDAR2HuYfWpugqG by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:23:24Z
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@brucelawson Right, that's it! I'm blocking @ruari 😆
(DIR) Post #AXgxEyjKmFk9o1Ksue by brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net
2023-07-14T17:23:44Z
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@matt very wise. @ruari
(DIR) Post #AXgxl6yndpj4eptMZs by ruari@velocipederider.com
2023-07-14T17:29:33Z
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@matt nah. Cargo bike for the win. urban arrow family would be perfect because then you can take kid, and friends and maybe some shopping.
(DIR) Post #AXgy5zZkMg9Vm988oq by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:33:19Z
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@jwildeboer Right?! The website assures me it can hold up to 25kg. And a child seat for a kid up to 6 years old supports no more than 22kg. So, I think we are just about there.But I see cargo-style bikes like the one pictured below which have a big old frame on, which looks far more... stable.But those bikes are twice the price and I'm not sure I have the storage space for such a large bike.
(DIR) Post #AXgyG8voR0XlgjI92W by jbenjamint@mastodon.scot
2023-07-14T17:35:09Z
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@matt my advice (after far too long in the bike industry) would be visit a couple of local bike shops and buy from one of them. Bike models are much of a muchness for the price, but a good local shop will look after you for years to come, often for free.
(DIR) Post #AXgyrhbSUN75w2gHA0 by josteinsn@fribygda.no
2023-07-14T17:32:54Z
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@ruari @matt +1. love My UA and still take big 9yo to school, occasionally even adult sized humans., use it as a normal bike, go shopping etc.
(DIR) Post #AXgyriCKHIbVmNvicq by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:41:54Z
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@josteinsn @ruari I was considering a cargo bike - but gone off the idea a little because they are a lot more expensive and larger in size.So, there's the up-front cost, but also the issue of storing it. The current apartment has a small bike shed, down a flight of stairs (really accessible).This was my thinking; an electric bike, seat on the back, additional storage on the front.But these recommendations are coming in strong, I sense. I'll revisit the UA site and see what's up.
(DIR) Post #AXgzA5lpNGmA6KIeau by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T17:45:16Z
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@jbenjamint Good tip! I always like to #ShopLocal. I'll see what's around. 😎
(DIR) Post #AXh09NQyJdzEY3leeu by lopta@mastodon.social
2023-07-14T17:56:21Z
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@matt I think that one's built for off-road trails in Iceland. Will you be riding on the road?
(DIR) Post #AXh0GtvZu5MFLvfg3s by jbenjamint@mastodon.scot
2023-07-14T17:57:38Z
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@matt 👍 the margin on a bike like that would cover most of a week's wages (maybe not in Oslo!) for one of the staff. Makes a big difference.
(DIR) Post #AXh0IXAdU8PnLsUd3Q by bjoernstaerk@snabelen.no
2023-07-14T17:57:59Z
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@matt i use a Yuba Spicy Curry with our two kids, en electric longtail. love it, but I also see the practical benefit of a smaller bike with different trailers to pick from. one trailer for kindergarten, another for shopping. cheaper, flexible.
(DIR) Post #AXh1k8rbYETC1mJsky by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T18:14:11Z
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@lopta Are you saying that because you watched the promo video on the homepage? 🙂 I think it's an all-rounder. You can use it for city travel on road, but because of the bigger chunkier wheels, it's able to handle rougher terrain.The product page reads: "Think of RAWBIKE 250E as an easier way to get to school, work and explore in your free time. It meets a need in the market with a flexible electric bike that you can quickly take down and load into your car, subway or bus."
(DIR) Post #AXh1n4rCu4IETFX8PA by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T18:14:42Z
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@bjoernstaerk I love that someone decided to name a bike Spicy Curry.
(DIR) Post #AXh2p2zUufS7DRukwi by lopta@mastodon.social
2023-07-14T18:26:17Z
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@matt Haven't seen it but a colleague bought something along those lines and made the mistake of exceeding battery range. He described the last few miles to get home as a slog. Something lighter with narrower tyres would be my choice though at work we could really use something like a Tern Quick Haul or GSD.
(DIR) Post #AXh2qhk8slN1teWRoO by kf@666.glitchwit.ch
2023-07-14T18:26:34Z
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@matt I do not speak Norwegian, but it doesn’t look like the weight capacity of the rear rack is listed anywhere in the product specifications. Something to consider, as the maximum driver weight, maximum capacity of the racks, and maximum capacity of a bike are all completely different.
(DIR) Post #AXh3GPlKMDRfevKtxg by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T18:31:14Z
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@kf Good tip. I just double-checked and it's not on the main listing - you are correct.However, I spotted on the listing for their child seat that "The child seat can withstand up to 22kg and our luggage carriers are built for a maximum weight of 25kg"
(DIR) Post #AXh3dKGyvuVNIJ4ERk by ruari@velocipederider.com
2023-07-14T18:35:21Z
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@matt it occurred to me I probably have more cyclist followers than you so I'll just boost and hopefully you will get more sensible responses @josteinsn
(DIR) Post #AXh3jz700WuvgwZaj2 by tanketom@tutoteket.no
2023-07-14T18:36:33Z
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@matt @jwildeboer A couple of the longtails (and similar) have cages that makes it possible to store them standing "on their back wheels". Takes up less space then having it standing around.
(DIR) Post #AXh3nUzlvEfTRertj6 by kf@666.glitchwit.ch
2023-07-14T18:37:12Z
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@matt For sure!The other thing I would say is that you should consider your plan for if the bike breaks. Where I live, the bike’s wheels make it impossible to fit on the front of a bus or to hang from a hook on light rail. The bike may be too difficult to pedal without the motor. Tires like that make it difficult to fix a flat on the side of the road.So, would it be easy where you live to take the seat off and fold the bike in half so it can all fit into a car?
(DIR) Post #AXh5IXBvuHdlBgv3Ts by sverrejoh@oslo.town
2023-07-14T18:54:01Z
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@matt I’d get one with a crank engine. I have the Benno Boost, and I love it. It’s a cargo bike, but doesn’t feel too bulky and it looks good. https://bennobikes.com/e-bikes/boost/You can demo it at Oslo Sykkelverksted in Sannergata, which is a great shop. It costs twice as much as the one you posted, but it has a ton of utility.It’s my favorite thing this bike. Makes me happy every day 😙Benno Remi Demi is small and fun bike. My wife has a Tern HSD, which is also a great bike.
(DIR) Post #AXh7qnVLxdIFXJT6zw by marshant@mastodon.scot
2023-07-14T19:22:37Z
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@matt @jwildeboer I have a Veloe Multi family bike. It's a "mid-tail" and only maybe an inch longer than a standard mens bike so it fits in our bike shed and in the bike storage on the train. I can carry two kids on the back and it's fab. It was cheaper than a lot of the cargo bikes but it's definitely better for our purposes anyway. I had considered the Tern GSD but it was too long. They've got a shorter version which would be perfect if you've only got one kid!
(DIR) Post #AXh8CT24kySIPi6hxQ by kelbot@retro.social
2023-07-14T19:26:32Z
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@matt I would double check the weight rating and measurements for that rear rack before considering this one seriously. If the rack isn't rated for what your 2.5 yo + seat weigh x2 then I would say it's not a good pick. That rack doesn't look all that sturdy and appears to be quite short. Even if it can support the weight it is likely to be awkard for you and the child because the child seat will be too close to your seat. Possibly even interfering with your ability to pedal.Just my 2 cents. Have been riding bikes and ebikes with 2 kids on them for 4+ years now.
(DIR) Post #AXh8OFjw0JI8f8F2fY by WildEnte@social.vivaldi.net
2023-07-14T19:28:40Z
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@matt @ruari makes me think, is there an electric unicycle on the market?
(DIR) Post #AXh8XJ3V2vHJYGi5YG by matt@oslo.town
2023-07-14T19:30:17Z
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@WildEnte @ruari A un-e-cycle. 😅
(DIR) Post #AXh9HMO6zL9nCxJMYK by ruari@velocipederider.com
2023-07-14T19:38:36Z
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@matt @WildEnte EUCs exist and you have likely seen them lots of times but they are partially self balancing and you don't pedal. However what you are thinking of exists as well 😉https://youtu.be/-C1n6XAypag
(DIR) Post #AXhBjIlCGkp1yQYoMK by silhelm@camp.smolnet.org
2023-07-14T20:06:04Z
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@matt I like rawbikes and I like that they are foldable for storage or transport, but they are relatively short. I feel that a clip on transport basket on the back bumps me up the behind a lot, so a child might be cramped. Or not, ymmv. If you can look at it - and try it, pref with child seat and child, that's recommended.
(DIR) Post #AXhBv1UgI6a7tjQO36 by amd@social.amd.im
2023-07-14T20:08:11Z
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@matt @ruari That rear rack looks entirely unsuited for carrying a person and I wouldn’t put my kids on it.My personal preference is to avoid any kind of bolt on frame if you want to put people on it. My Yuba Mundo (and there are many others) has the rack as a welded, integral portion of the frame. The idea of getting a fat tired ebike to haul your kid is a great one, just need to make sure it’s a good safe option for precious cargo like that.
(DIR) Post #AXhDTu2M6iB6rPN5NY by szeis4cookie@rva.party
2023-07-14T20:25:43Z
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@matt @jwildeboer the product that you're looking for is the Tern Quick Haul or HSD. Rear rack rated for 60kg, fits in the footprint of a normal non-cargo bike. The HSD's handle post folds for more compact storage and transport, while the Quick Haul's does not, otherwise functionally identical.
(DIR) Post #AXhFzAO9YvDOSXbPmK by gauteweb@social.vivaldi.net
2023-07-14T20:53:45Z
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@matt Get whatever eBike you think is cool and use a trailer instead of those lame-looking seat for your daughter and all the stuff you need to bring along.
(DIR) Post #AXhG8F59TtXZce2gpE by thomasrost@oslo.town
2023-07-14T20:55:24Z
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@matt Like the chunky wheels, the chunkier the better (softer) in my experience. I would strongly consider Finn for second-hand, or the subscription-thing that Whee! has to offer, with services and add-ons included…https://whee.no/
(DIR) Post #AXhMr3AfDEoVR9MzBY by SteamHeaterson@oslo.town
2023-07-14T22:10:44Z
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@matt @ruari This is me long ago, pushing two kids. Then we upgraded to a double jogging stroller, and I switched to a much larger wheel, and we could fly! Get a unicycle!
(DIR) Post #AXhNH7E4l5k3XhOWrQ by perbl@snabelen.no
2023-07-14T22:15:26Z
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@matt it costs more, but I would get a more conventional bike with a well known drive train you can get fixed in a local bike shop. There are loads of bad experiences from people buying cheapish bikes online and needing service from companies who dont have a proper service level. Also dont see the need for fat bike tires on commuter bikes, whick limits availability for winter tires/tires in general significantly, and they will have a higher roller resistance