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(DIR) Post #AWrtQYzYrGNY8SXFbM by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-20T02:10:42Z
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It amazes me that a 10mm Luger bullet (middle) has about 50% MORE energy than the significantly larger .45 colt long (right).For reference on tbe left is a 9mm parabellum.#gun #guns #2a
(DIR) Post #AWrtv3cZXmaZolK5o0 by rchrd@mastodon.online
2023-06-20T02:16:14Z
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@freemo The FBI used 10mm and it had excessive recoil problems and they had issues, so they approached S&W to create something new, S&W made them the .40 cal which is just a 10 mm but with a shorter case. But recently, maybe a couple of years ago, the FBI did a use of force study, and they discovered that the best carry for accuracy of initial shots and accuracy of follow-up shots is actually 9 mm so they switched over to 9's.Thanks for listening to my TED talk
(DIR) Post #AWruGWMdsBhf2n6fGS by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-20T02:20:06Z
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@rchrd Yup, all accurate. But its important to note what works best for the mean is not the same as what is best for the individual. If you must apply a standard for everyone, find the best in mean and go with it... but if you dont need to then find what is best for the person, regardless of the mean.. I have no doubt 10mm is the superior shot for some people (perhaps those better at handling recoil) and not the superior shot for others.
(DIR) Post #AWsvJvI1x0keKY5yls by tatzelbrumm@tuebingen.network
2023-06-20T14:06:37Z
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@freemo Nice collectors' items of limited practical use (specialization is for insects).But how do they compare to a laser capable of emitting a beam of pure anti-matter?
(DIR) Post #AXfSLJQ5TXN3yQuhe4 by gat@mu.zaitcev.nu
2023-07-14T00:02:48.896405Z
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@freemo It's a 10mm Auto. Georg Luger only designed the 9mm.
(DIR) Post #AXfSQEEcBGQ5LAtLbk by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-14T00:03:42Z
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@gat No you have it mixed up...9mm is parabellum, 10mm is Luger... its 45 that comes in Auto and Colt Long varieties, here we have Cold Long.
(DIR) Post #AXfSto7xoMpX3dsvrc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-14T00:09:02Z
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@gat Ok seems you are right, thank you... 9mm is either luger or parabellum (which appear to be the same thing)... 10mm is auto, and .45 is either Auto or Colt Long whicha re different things.
(DIR) Post #AXfbMckzxrZ3pAOY76 by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2023-07-14T01:43:56.937039Z
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@freemo You don’t even know what Georg Luger did you faggot
(DIR) Post #AXfelGNqaL4LXK0TD6 by scathach@stereophonic.space
2023-07-14T02:21:53.904834Z
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@freemo 45 Colt loads are designed to replicate its original black powder performance, a hot modern load would basically be a 454 Casull
(DIR) Post #AXfepzHxZTSHxuVPDE by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-14T02:22:48Z
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@scathach I can tell you from shooting them it builds up a much thicker and harder to clean residue, thats for sure
(DIR) Post #AXfgF4mSOCqEBxIUoi by scathach@stereophonic.space
2023-07-14T02:38:34.124382Z
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@freemo I haven't shot either sadly ;-;
(DIR) Post #AXfgSqSSRAH9pEVaD2 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-14T02:41:02Z
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@scathach 45 colt is ok to shoot, but i find their mostly in revolvers and i dont find many revolvers to be very ergonomic. So they tend to hurt your hand ifyou shoot it too much, not to mention being a pain to clean.A 10mm has 50% more energy but, at least in my gun, is much smoother to shoot. I'd say for handguns 10mm and 9mm will cover you well enough... if you really want a variety a 45 ACP is nice, as is the 5.7mm
(DIR) Post #AXfuHvYUXmMlo71Eem by gat@mu.zaitcev.nu
2023-07-14T05:15:54.774239Z
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@freemo Correct, although the story is a little more involved in detail.For the rimless .45, the Colt's original name was ".45 ACP" (Automatic Colt Pistol). The Colt's competitors tended to stamp their guns with ".45 Auto". For the revolver .45, Colt's original name was ".45 Colt". However, since other revolver calibers had "Long" in the name, users of the cartridge called it ".45 Long Colt" and basically overcame factory's opinion. In part it helped to disambiguate it from .45 ACP.There's no point in knowing any of this.
(DIR) Post #AXg08iIx2VslpVjvkG by bonifartius@qoto.org
2023-07-14T06:21:33Z
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@gat @freemo gyn jesus has a whole video on "9mm" :) https://youtu.be/szCW_52zPIk
(DIR) Post #AXgaDKHXNc2T7dZqlM by drewfer@qoto.org
2023-07-14T13:05:43Z
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@freemo the difference is from technological advances in metallurgy and the change from black powder to modern smokeless powders Modern ammunition designs just don't need anywhere near the same amount of case capacity to generate the same amount (or more) energy.The .38 vs 9mm is a good example as they have roughly the same diameter bullet but the 9mm has almost ~30% more energy despite being ~30% shorter overall.
(DIR) Post #AXgo34iDoM0dIR44ae by SteelFolk@qoto.org
2023-07-14T15:37:28Z
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@drewfer @freemo I'm interested to know what the metallurgy is about here. Do you have a link to something?
(DIR) Post #AXgo35hY8L48Mdl3BI by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-14T15:40:42Z
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@SteelFolk @drewfer He is probably talking about copper jackets. Back in the cowboy days they were just lead slugs.
(DIR) Post #AXgp4aGO5fdROUKRw8 by SteelFolk@qoto.org
2023-07-14T15:52:15Z
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@freemo @drewfer Oh, the brass bit? I read that barrels on big ship guns suffered from fatigue to due to hoop stress and didn't last long so I though it might be about something similar.
(DIR) Post #AXgpDi26ZYWA6602Fs by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-14T15:53:52Z
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@SteelFolk @drewfer There is probably all sorts of crazy mettalurgy at play in the bullets of big guns.Then there are barrels too. Today the barrel of a gun is much stronger and as such our bullets can produce much higher pressures.
(DIR) Post #AXgqEGPwpbpUh2ypou by SteelFolk@qoto.org
2023-07-14T16:05:12Z
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@freemo @drewfer I can see that you'd feel silly if the barrel got wider after a few shots, the gases got past it and the bullet just plopped out onto the floor.
(DIR) Post #AXgx4cSohz49qsfd2G by WhiteBoyRooster@nicecrew.digital
2023-07-14T17:21:54.836945Z
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Just pick one and use it on yourself, you obese pedo groomer.
(DIR) Post #AXhOF7Tyvwp9iHRl7Q by drewfer@qoto.org
2023-07-14T22:26:20Z
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@freemo @SteelFolk It's more about the casing, chamber, and barrel of the gun itself, not the bullet.The Army's most recent iteration of the standard issue rifle (SIG Spear) has a specially designed steel & brass case to help handle the overall pressures that the propellant generates. My understanding is that the new bi-metal construction was needed to ramp up the bullet performance but keep it within the pre-existing overall cartridge length requirements. Info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.277_Fury
(DIR) Post #AXj0vg0AyNmcLrBWds by AmpBenzScientist@qoto.org
2023-07-15T17:14:31Z
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@freemo Need 10mm Luger in subcompact with auto fire.