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(DIR) Post #AXf376lTET3vog2t8a by Cameo@mastodon.social
2023-07-13T17:46:43Z
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This is a great article explaining how SAG day rate and residuals work. For a show like 'Friends' that airs on network, day rate was $500/day and residuals for a person that appeared on one episode in a speaking part could be as much as 50k a year. Orange is the new black paid $900 a day (SAG minimum for streaming), and a person that did 7 days of work for a three episode ark. That person recieved a quarterly streaming royalty check of $27.30. #SagAftraStronghttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/notes-on-hollywood/orange-is-the-new-black-signalled-the-rot-inside-the-streaming-economy
(DIR) Post #AXf377bw5P1uROamum by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T19:19:45.903738Z
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> a person that appeared on one episode in a speaking part could be as much as 50k a year. I know FRIENDS was like one of the biggest shows of all time but you're telling me that a rando character in one episode that happens to get a couple lines is gonna walk away with $50K/yr for almost forever?that seems pretty crazy to me
(DIR) Post #AXf3qQM7EwQxblnJk8 by obscuretenet@mastodon.social
2023-07-13T19:24:18Z
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@feld @Cameo It's only "crazy" because you've been told your entire life that a system in which you sell your rights to yourself, your work, your everything for a flat fee week after week after week is the only way to do things.Friends has been constantly aired for decades. Why wouldn't the people involved still get paid? Do you think Stephen King shouldn't get paid for every copy of The Shining sold? Without residuals, there are no working creatives. End of story.
(DIR) Post #AXf3qYdQST29HlxFpo by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T19:27:53.575186Z
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I'm just asking: are two sentences on camera really worth $500M over 10 years?Like, really?
(DIR) Post #AXf5Ur2XY1QbuCTrTE by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T19:46:26.031883Z
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> What's crazy is the insane amount the studio made from it/continues to make from it that they CAN pay people that much and still be insanely profitable. Yeah maybe they shouldn't be making as much money either. Perhaps the value of the content is blown *way* out of proportion
(DIR) Post #AXf5gWPw32jhQ7zFoW by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T19:48:35.569709Z
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*the studio* should not be making that much money off the content
(DIR) Post #AXf7kWX5lDtQqSN1lI by Cameo@mastodon.social
2023-07-13T20:06:14Z
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@feld Friends didn't have reruns for 10 years. And the show made 1.5 billion dollars. The six stars made 816 million collectively. The one friends guest star made a total of 210k total for her participation - which isn't bad for someone that only gets 1-2 guest star gigs a year (not for lack of trying).
(DIR) Post #AXf7kXDHENdYxI6iW0 by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T20:11:39.868446Z
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There was a 10 year period where Friends reruns/syndication was not happening anywhere?
(DIR) Post #AXf8AcnL6KHDnOPqim by Cameo@mastodon.social
2023-07-13T20:15:10Z
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@feld They might rerun the entire show, but not every season in one year. They might just run highlights or favorites. If your episode doesn't air that year, you don't get paid.
(DIR) Post #AXf8Ae42NjEBjTEhO4 by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T20:16:22.262554Z
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ok, I understand what you mean here
(DIR) Post #AXf8nvv3vjTeP3lvbE by Cameo@mastodon.social
2023-07-13T20:18:28Z
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@feld And all those actors on the shows like Westworld or Willow that got pulled? They now make zero. So if they got paid SAG minimum plus residuals, they will now make zero for the rest of the show. The show has pulled the content until their residual contract runs out, and then they'll sell it for nothing.
(DIR) Post #AXf8nwYlY7EiOCLdU8 by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T20:23:30.450978Z
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Yeah, I recognize that the situation with streaming really really bad right now. This is a giant loophole being abused.
(DIR) Post #AXfBZ9jmZYIOmI8ot6 by obscuretenet@mastodon.social
2023-07-13T20:44:23Z
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@feld @deco @Cameo Then stop watching movies. That's how you keep studios from making money. No more movies, no more TV, no more music, nothing creative at all can be consumed by you because you don't want studios making money.Think before typing next time.
(DIR) Post #AXfBZAn0f2TI2aeuYa by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-07-13T20:54:25.249113Z
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I have like 48TB of pirated movies and TV shows. I can happily consume without the studios making any money.(I also pay for Netflix, Disney+, Max, and AppleTV, but I pirate everything I really like)