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(DIR) Post #AXY08h3V4wauNw55UG by pdt@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-10T07:58:36Z
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one thing that's not discussed enough about federating with meta is that they could track federated users or at the very least their interactions with meta's network incl. their social graph.there are such things as off-network accounts you know. and you may remember that meta has previously stored identifiers s.a. phone numbers of people without accounts with them.** as an aside that's also why i never share my contacts with any app. i wish i could prevent others from sharing mine too.
(DIR) Post #AXY08iJUOyyiHoZN32 by pdt@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-10T08:02:03Z
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add to that harvesting my posts and data to feed AIs. no, thank you.
(DIR) Post #AXYlMlzaDSwjb1Sr5c by chance@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-10T17:30:05Z
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@pdt @ParadeGrotesqueI'm really in favor of federating with Meta. To be able to follow people I know IRL and respond to them through Mastodon is a big boon.Meta is probably doing this as a "hey look we're not Twitter" motion - AND Mastodon has a lot of big personalities and important figures here now.Whether they stay here or not is the open question.As for AI - I mean, posts on Mastodon are public and are available to be mined for AI. You're feeding AI with your posts right now.
(DIR) Post #AXYlMmlnKDVk0Y1MEi by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-10T18:32:56Z
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@chance Federating with Meta is a very hot topic right now, so I will simply say "Wolf in sheep's clothing" is probably the best analogy for it.Your posts may be available to be minded for AI, but mine are not - i have taken every precaution I can to hide them from our digital overlords.See here for mor edetails:https://distro.f-91w.club/masto-opsec/@pdt
(DIR) Post #AXcoSaZvh244jdVpQG by chance@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-12T17:26:22Z
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@ParadeGrotesque @pdt I hate to be that guy, but that guide doesn't stop AI from mining your posts at all.Mastodon by it's nature is harder to mine. It has a smaller blast radius, is far enough out of the mainstream that probably nobody cares.But if you ever post to public, it's available to any siphoning process that's logged into that server. You'd have to forgo all public posts.Yes, it shows you how to limit who follows you, so that you could block everyone from an instance...
(DIR) Post #AXdAOf7t2b4YflvcSO by chance@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-12T17:29:48Z
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@ParadeGrotesque @pdt which, guess what, includes people whose instance is Threads.There comes a time in life I think when I think most people realize that it has been easier to close doors on people than open them. When you notice that maybe you didn't even realize the important doors you were using are gone now.I know this is completely against SDF's ethos. But this is the feedback I have, after being a member of SDF for nearly 20 years now.
(DIR) Post #AXdAOfrcIZeUxbK8jg by chance@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-12T17:31:45Z
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@ParadeGrotesque @pdt This conversation also pretends that blocking whole instances isn't a thing. I do that regularly.Not federating with Meta at all feels spiteful and short sighted.
(DIR) Post #AXdAOgj95YTDdcMtAe by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-12T21:32:17Z
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@chance @pdt Spiteful? You bet.Short sighted? Quite the reverse my friend.Given what we know today, do you think it would be a good idea to let Trump run for President a 2nd time?We know what this person stands for - and it is the exact opposite of honesty and the rule of law.Given what we know today about Meta, do you think it would be a good idea to let it federate with the Fediverse?We know what this company is all about - and it is the antithesis of what the Fediverse stands for.
(DIR) Post #AXdau2ohbiyvvua0Qq by chance@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-13T02:29:19Z
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@ParadeGrotesque @pdt If someone wants to drink alcohol, do you think it's your right to regulate everyone being dry?Federating with Meta doesn't mean everyone on SDF has to be exposed. It's simple. Block it by default for everyone. I get it.Meta doesn't control what shows in the Federated feed. The users of SDF do. Saying we don't Federate with Meta is saying I don't have a choice to interact with Threads users in a healthier way.And frankly, nearly all of them are my IRL friends.
(DIR) Post #AXe2DXPamHHB5PM21w by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-13T07:35:17Z
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@chance @pdt I am not going to get drawn into a long and pointless discussion. SDF has already stated they won't federate with Meta.Let's just agree to disagree, shall we?