Post AXbggCGXtFQEarSnia by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AXbgg6ujmu0TzmDoX2 by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T18:08:35Z
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Are people ready to hear the hard truth? Nah, I don't think they are.
(DIR) Post #AXbgg7raG74uwHkoFs by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T21:52:28Z
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*takes a long drag off cigarette*Hard truth time? Yeah it's time.
(DIR) Post #AXbgg8d5PV4lJbykIS by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T21:55:19Z
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You should have already been using #CentOS Stream. There, I said it.
(DIR) Post #AXbgg9TYGR2jwKWe4e by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T21:57:19Z
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#RHEL clones have always been fundamentally flawed. #CentOS was too back when it was a clone. They can't fix bugs. They can't accept contributions. They only exist because people want free RHEL. And guess what, there are better ways to get actual free RHEL now.
(DIR) Post #AXbggARoeNFUxEim0W by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T21:59:08Z
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What so many folks are missing is that the news this week isn't actually new. RHEL EUS and ELS update sources have always followed this policy. It's why RHEL clones didn't offer equivalents. I've been warning people about this for *years*. Here's the most recent example:https://old.reddit.com/r/AlmaLinux/comments/10m0etc/speculative_concern_about_migrating_centos_7_to/j66upha/
(DIR) Post #AXbggBLTJRlhjqlDl2 by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T22:01:30Z
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#RedHat is not an open source company. It's an enterprise software company with an open source development model. It's not a charity, it's a business. It always has and always will make decisions in support of making a profit. Welcome to capitalism, for better or worse.
(DIR) Post #AXbggCGXtFQEarSnia by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T22:04:14Z
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The announcement this week was that the automation to export RHEL source RPMs (the archives containing software sources and spec files, the recipes to build RPMs that make up RHEL) was being shut down. This automation was a legacy system from the original CentOS acqui-hire and the times when RHEL was developed completely in private, with a "throw it over the wall" open source approach.
(DIR) Post #AXbggD2P1JhezHr1JQ by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T22:05:58Z
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We have something better now, an actual real community enterprise distro with an open development process that you can be a part of. This is #CentOS now. Everything there is completely unrestricted and people can do whatever they want with it, including making derivative distros. #RHEL itself is functionally a derivative distro based on CentOS Stream.
(DIR) Post #AXbggDmUFyZBIDPp8y by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T22:10:25Z
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That legacy export system had zero benefit for CentOS and RHEL maintainers and contributors. The sources in CentOS are proper version-controlled package sources, with real commit messages. The stuff from the legacy export system was garbage by comparison, with commit messages like "import foo-1.0-1.el9".
(DIR) Post #AXbggEbBDV7FpR8J9s by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T22:13:37Z
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That said, RHEL rebuilds were completely dependent on this legacy export system. They all knew that customer portal source RPMs, available under specific contractual agreements, met all the necessary license requirements. Remember the EUS and ELS stuff I brought up? Same thing. The legacy export system always existed at Red Hat's discretion. The rebuilds built their projects *and business offerings* on this, fully knowing the risks. It truly sucks for them, but that's the reality of it.
(DIR) Post #AXbggFSi0TvyVSB3aq by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T22:17:12Z
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I have complicated feelings around this decision by my employer. I do not fully agree with it, and I'm not posting all this in an attempt to defend it, per se. I'm pointing out that this was completely predictable, and that because of that and the benefits of #CentOS Stream, there was an obvious choice for most people.
(DIR) Post #AXbggGAfN360hmkA6q by Sexypink@social.fbxl.net
2023-07-12T04:24:36.345379Z
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is this about as interesting as you are in real life?
(DIR) Post #AXbggHBPblHpqO6GuW by carlwgeorge@fosstodon.org
2023-06-23T22:20:37Z
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My notifications are blowing up from this thread already, and I haven't read them all yet. But go ahead and miss me with the "RHEL is too expensive" complaints. Red Hat is a business with a product for sale. If you don't like the price, vote with your wallet and choose something else. Or negotiate a better price based on volume. That's how the enterprise software world works.