Post AXaW5Ua9YYmc2U4lLk by gh0s1@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AXTx9BkXshQn5Rv5pA by tante@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-07-08T10:51:19Z
       
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       I do think we are beyond "tax the rich". We are deep in "expropriate the rich" territory.Why invent complex system of taxation they'll evade? Just take some shit back.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXTxXh9ukpHrS0TIky by incoherentmumblings@social.dev-wiki.de
       2023-07-08T10:55:46Z
       
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       @tante And quickly approaching EAT the rich territory.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUbT2Xlob9UUcxtYW by epilonious@tech.lgbt
       2023-07-08T18:23:08Z
       
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       @tante "Oh, your ancestors fought for this land and money?  Okay, we'll fight you for it Right Now!"
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUd4ctXj13Du2dSeu by Panopticola@climatejustice.social
       2023-07-08T18:41:03Z
       
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       @tante I always interpreted the phrase "eat the rich" as meaning 'reabsorb them back into human society.'
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUjGi7OjIOxIrGGpM by gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu
       2023-07-08T19:50:29Z
       
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       @tante I am totally for creating more tourism submarines.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXWTh4b0ZT2Dawa1Ng by oscar@emacs.ch
       2023-07-09T16:05:25Z
       
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       @tante How about we first treat everybody equally? Instead of an ultra complex tax system that they'll evade, a simple one every 8 year old understands and can play by the same rules as everybody else. No rich, no poor, "special case". Everybody by the same rules as a citizen, clear simple rules for everybody.Would that be a flat tax? I don't thing so. Would there be rich & poor? yes because people are different, elite youtubers and football players will still out-earn Nobel laureates because that is what the market pays.How about we only have Value Added Tax? Because we live in a society and we work towards improving the lives of others through value add. Buyer and seller consensually  engage. People like Jeff Bezos will still be very rich, because we buy from amazon. And if you don't like him being rich, don't buy from amazon.  You pay the tax when you buy, because you have found something worth to buy in the society, likewise your employer pays VAT when he pays you, because he found a useful worker to hire in the society. Playing by different rules and forcing employees to income tax, which constantly increases, punishing disproportionately the most productive members of society is very unfair.Finally it you want to "expropriate the rich" don't expect the government to do it. It will never happen, the government is for the rich. You have to take that task in your hands and go French Revolution style, reclaiming the wealth produced from society back to it. Because in those times too, the French state was for the rich. So I would say, you must go like the Americans did and embrace the "right to bear arms". You can't expropriate the rich without weapons, it wont happen. And that is why every government tries to take weapons away from its citizens instead of guaranteeing an educated society where we defend private property and practice civility among each other.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXaW5Ua9YYmc2U4lLk by gh0s1@mastodon.social
       2023-07-11T14:50:54Z
       
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       @tante Literally, look at inequality not just in any country but in the world and you realize that you might as well just steal the money cause their aint no way some taxes gonna make things better.