Post AXYLBQhsPx63aQ73gW by MandyJane@spinster.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #AXWvvLiuUBG3U9s78K by 22lemons@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-09T21:13:16.809959Z
       
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       'you're not a radfem if you have a boyfriend/husband/choose to sleep with/live with men"This argument is currently doing the rounds on tumblr. and it's interesting to read. Some OSA* women say statements like that make them want to leave the community. If being criticized about choosing to have men in your life makes you want to give up on the ideology all together, did you ever truly subscribe to radical feminism to begin with? *Oppose sex attracted
       
 (DIR) Post #AXWvvNUntbA8yzHsQK by Brookryn@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-09T21:19:56.695528Z
       
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       @22lemons it's been a while since we had a good political lesbianism war on spinster, mayo on chips is weird and gross! :blobpeek:
       
 (DIR) Post #AXWw0llL6GqXgzanZI by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-09T21:22:53.923175Z
       
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       @22lemons They want to leave the community without these statements, they just look for an excuse. Even without telling women that personally their Nigel is bad, proper feminism describes how all men are bad for all women. It's impossible to achieve a free, uncolonized feminist consciousness while emotionally investing and being sexually available to a person who is interested in your continued subjugation. It's not "what other bad radfems said" problem, it's a fact that will be evident even if nobody tells you about it, if you're honest with yourself. The dishonest ones try to suppress all mentions of it so it's easier to lie to themselves.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXXCRMHTXyMjkQKBM0 by starsstorm@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T00:25:47.597440Z
       
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       @Brookryn @22lemons :mayo:
       
 (DIR) Post #AXXCRMtlFczTfAEl1s by Fullycaffeinated@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T00:26:59.166289Z
       
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       @starsstorm @Brookryn @22lemons #TeamMayo   :mayo:
       
 (DIR) Post #AXXDpfin1EgWwhG3Ki by ChasingWaterfalls@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-09T23:22:57.292745Z
       
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       @22lemons So……..straight women have to choose between sex/relationship & being a radfem, while bisexual & lesbian women do not? Screw you, straight women, you can be lonely and horny the rest of your lives! 😩
       
 (DIR) Post #AXXMQoRgLSheLoTdLs by LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T02:18:56.404479Z
       
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       @Brookryn @22lemons Is this like British chips, meaning fries? Or are women on here arguing that mayo belongs on tortilla chips? 🤮
       
 (DIR) Post #AXXvzSSBbCiwfvy6Bk by skullhoney@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-09T23:39:15.296602Z
       
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       @Mynona @22lemons “The dishonest ones try to suppress all mentions of it so it's easier to lie to themselves” and it’s also dishonest to suppress love and sex in your personal life as a human being. It finds a way of surfacing eventually.  Work out these tensions within oneself vs the group is how healthy self-actualization works.  Women start life following the rules of one world for approval, then find the rules are even more strict in the space that is a ideological refuge from that, and it becomes even more clear how fucked we are if we’re straight and have mutual desire for men, even if we lock our vaginas in chastity for a decade or more.  The original friction that brought us to feminism made us smarter women.  The friction within feminism is another challenge that can make us grow stronger and more rounded.  Feminism pushes up against and contains regular human inequality, that’s life.  I like the barrier for entry with the goal for liberation to be high, with no accommodating of men or surrendering in a relationship with men being the rock the grapevine pushes through, ** but I also like the idea of testing my feminism and getting my carnal/intimate needs met at the same timeArt ofc by Nina Paley nina@neenster.org
       
 (DIR) Post #AXXvzTK4MrpFN3B8Ay by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T08:57:21.991468Z
       
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       @skullhoney @22lemons Nobody "is" straight, everybody goes through a conversion therapy to become one. But of course the LGB queer movement that you all stan so much saw to it that this notion is erased from feminist history and seen as the most problematic and homophobic thing ever. Love with men is not love, it's masochism, Stockholm syndrome and projection, you're already denying the real love to yourself.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYGYykzUCuG54ylpg by starsstorm@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T00:28:16.537643Z
       
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       @Fullycaffeinated @Brookryn @22lemons #TeamMayo #MayoForLife  :mayo:
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYGtPaVRILh5SomtU by TheWitchBitch@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-09T21:36:10.311103Z
       
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       @22lemons tumblrinas
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYGuqOBHKN8V0jhXU by Brookryn@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T12:36:24.978717Z
       
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       @ChasingWaterfalls @22lemons yes, if you like dick stay celibate or you're not a feminist :blobjoy: I was prepared to swear off all men for all time but then emotional support male turned up and disrupted my plans.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYJ6Go1bLnjWVOtTk by Brookryn@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T12:32:25.420753Z
       
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       @LisbonMuse @22lemons mayo on French fries, still gross but not the grossest
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYLBQhsPx63aQ73gW by MandyJane@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T13:39:39.792479Z
       
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       @skullhoney @Mynona @22lemons The purity spirals can be so destructive, but I enjoy reading the thoughts of women dealing with their journey into feminism. I wish that it didn't usually wind up turning into feuds that drive women away, though. Everyone needs space to be right or wrong about things!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYLoHyUogmBnZPqXg by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T13:46:40.816602Z
       
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       @MandyJane @skullhoney @22lemons Oh my god, it's not a purity spiral. It has nothing to do with purities or spirals. I get it, being "dirty" is cool, because postmodernism says so. Also seeing political structures and connection is very very gross because postmodernism says so. Also nobody should "tell you what to do" because brogressives say so. Also anyone "telling you what to do" is basically a hegemon. That gives people the confidence to whine about purity spirals at something that simply exposes their cognitive dissonance which they aren't ready to deal with. Feminist core ideas didn't change. Western women are actively trying to destroy feminism's reputation, yes even those who call themselves "feminists", to "allow" themselves to not change anything in their lives, to not reflect on their past and present. Then when they set the bar below the very earth, they complain that feminist standards are "unrealistic".
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYNObHMcYPY367TeK by MandyJane@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T14:04:27.266293Z
       
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       @Mynona @skullhoney @22lemons I have no idea what you are talking about. Being dirty is cool? wtf?  I'm 54 yrs old, I missed the postmodern indoctrination because I live in the middle of nowhere, and spent my youth off the internet (tbh I was also high as fuck nearly all the time).  I do not know why you are reading all that into my post, but I suppose this sort of thing is what causes a lot of the drama amongst tumblr feminists. What you seem to be describing is what I think of as "pop feminism", we are all exposed to it in advertising, especially in the US. What I am suggesting is that instead of flipping out and attacking people and accusing them of listening to the brogressives, maybe helping them realize what they believe is feminism is really just clever marketing. Giving women space to be right and wrong about things is asking them to reflect. The only thing I think is "unrealistic" about feminist standards is expecting women to grasp them immediately. You are trying to inform women about issues, and you are up against some powerful psychological indoctrination. There should be some understanding! Marketing departments have spent billions of dollars putting these ideas in our heads.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYNkbYYGqcnHOeSoK by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T14:08:24.461490Z
       
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       @MandyJane @skullhoney @22lemons Alright. I've never been on tumblr, my impatience is the result of hearing the same "argument" for years over and over. I don't know if western feminist internet have ever experienced connective consciousness growth or if it was always everyday amnesia, forgive my language.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXYgkovKTAHXro7cYa by LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz
       2023-07-10T17:41:21.680118Z
       
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       @Brookryn @22lemons If you mix ketchup and mayo, it makes a yummy dip for fries...