Post AXY0shBEwlOU5pdXVY by msgbi@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AXXsdg1ABgqiViFcbA by tarkowski@101010.pl
2023-07-10T08:19:48Z
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On the Mastodon blog, @Gargron published "What to know about Threads" - part FAQ about possible impact of Meta's #Threads on the #Fediverse. And part manifesto.https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/First, a caveat. Threads that are interoperable with #Mastodon are for now but a figment of collective imagination. Making it a good time to consider this scenario - but who knows whether it will ultimately happen?I'm happy that Rochko / Mastodon org voice strong support for an interoperable #Fediverse, including interop with large commercial platforms. I want to react to two things:"Well, even if Threads abandoned ActivityPub down the line, where we would end up is exactly where we are now."Well, not really. Lots of Fediverse devs/admin have a very technical take, which thinks just in terms of a network of servers. A server federates, a server defederates, life goes on. What changes is the user experience. A world where Threads federeate and then abandon #ActivityPub is one of many broken experiences and broken social graphs.Federated services - even in a space that sees defederation as an option, just as open source sees forks as a possibility - ultimately require a commitment to continuity. And this commitment is something that cannot be governed by a protocol. It requires a social contract, a pact. How do you make a contract of this sort with Meta? Is the 100 EUR question.Secondly,"If you are not happy with their decision, you can move your account to a different Mastodon server while keeping all of your followers. Since Mastodon is open-source, you can even host your own server and be entirely in charge."This requires a separate post to unpack, but seriously? Again, this vision of user experience is flawed. Moving between servers is relatively easy, but feels difficult. (And why are there two Gargron accounts? How does this make sense as UX?). And the offer "set up your own server, its open source" is a type of tech elitism that really needs to end.
(DIR) Post #AXXyejxLd5EqjwMAts by wildebees@mastodon.social
2023-07-10T09:27:13Z
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@tarkowski @Gargron @1br0wn See this post by Alex Stamos on the GDPR implications for Meta of using ActivityPub.https://www.threads.net/t/CuYUaDHr-6m
(DIR) Post #AXY0shBEwlOU5pdXVY by msgbi@mastodon.social
2023-07-10T09:52:07Z
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(DIR) Post #AXc8Eo62RP98WzHDfM by tarkowski@101010.pl
2023-07-12T09:33:23Z
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@wildebees @Gargron @1br0wn I agree that Stmos has a strong anti-interop sentiment. Still the issues that he outlines are relevant, and the questions should be answered.With the DMA debate there was a strong team of people like @1br0wn, the #Matrix team or Open Forum Europe, interested in solving these #interoperability challenges. I wonder who will deal with them on behalf of #Mastodon and #Fediverse. I would count on a public or civic institution, with resources and interest to further develop governance in this space: Automattic / Tumblr? Mozilla? A Dutch or German university coalition?@leonido