Post AXUCVseqWsRxqaX4zo by elicin@annihilation.social
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 (DIR) Post #AXU8ri0GQKMRMBhg00 by kaia@brotka.st
       2023-07-08T13:02:44.181853Z
       
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       using my mobile phone flat rate's internet in Canada or US would cost 1€ per 100kB of data.  let's say it's 50 MB to look something up on a modern website, that's cool 500€
       
 (DIR) Post #AXU9bUzN8vX2JY7YGG by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2023-07-08T13:10:58.652224Z
       
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       @kaia I don't think it's even possible for ISPs to reliably measure 100kB of data usage, as the way transmission works is symbols/time and not kB/time - although the sender/receiver can determine how many MiB of data it sent/received in X time despite the overhead of the transmission medium and TCP or UDP, so a lot of that "data use" is probably made up.To be honest, an ISP is scamming you if you aren't paying a flat rate per month for a connection of X uplink/downlink (that's symmetrical unless there's protocol/transmission medium limitations on uplink).
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUAmtolGoAWSX9q3k by elicin@annihilation.social
       2023-07-08T13:24:18.501990Z
       
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       On an unrelated note, if you haven't already then get rid of the router that came from your ISP and replace it with something else. A lot of ISPs have their router backdoored which serves as another entry point that can be abused by them or authoritarian governments.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUBVyM1FauxYmCqno by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2023-07-08T13:32:24.039430Z
       
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       @elicin >A lot of ISPs have their router backdooredAll of the ISP routers are backdoored, as otherwise they couldn't remotely push configurations and updates.ISPs often make it hard to use your own router by refusing to tell you the PPPoE username/password and/or ensuring either that there's no bridge mode on the router, or that it doesn't work.In the worse case you have to do double NAT (yes, IPv4 only and no IPv6 feels), but that's better than letting the ISP control your LAN.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUBbBdvGq9yDq4D3I by newt@stereophonic.space
       2023-07-08T13:33:00.391478Z
       
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       @Suiseiseki @kaia > I don't think it's even possible for ISPs to reliably measure 100kB of data usageYes, it is
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUC3Y6PMPWBzGumWW by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2023-07-08T13:38:28.232883Z
       
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       @newt Yes, they can count the symbol bits and convert that to kB, but that value only roughly correlates to the actual data sent.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUCBNEJfT1SaFLRgW by newt@stereophonic.space
       2023-07-08T13:39:37.016631Z
       
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       @Suiseiseki wtf are you even talking about. They count packets and aggregate the total size sent and received.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUCVseqWsRxqaX4zo by elicin@annihilation.social
       2023-07-08T13:43:39.186344Z
       
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       Oh hai, I'm on NixOS again now. ❄️
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUDCPE5pYuR1FIRu4 by jason123santa@fosstodon.org
       2023-07-08T13:40:00Z
       
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       @Suiseiseki @elicin well this is about wireless cellular internet not regular fiber or cable internet there is a limit on the amount of data you can transfer unless you pay more and you get unlimited and the speed depends on how many people are using it among other factors
       
 (DIR) Post #AXUDCQAwIlyrxkpRcu by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2023-07-08T13:51:13.772040Z
       
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       @jason123santa Yes, there is sadly a bandwidth limit for wireless transmission and the speed mostly depends on congestion.A lot of the "increased speed" plans seems to be implemented via transmission priority I guess?The limit is really airtime, rather than a set "amount of data" - if you're the only one in range of a tower, there would be no reason other than artificial ones for your tracking device to not to be able to use most of the airtime.