Post AXSqQCbf3Vb5pUyCxc by Piss_Ant@spinster.xyz
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(DIR) Post #AXHjsVtOVNGO2cv0uO by dave@gleasonator.com
2023-07-02T13:26:14.300644Z
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(DIR) Post #AXHm4nx7Nr5HR9eIro by victor@crucible.world
2023-07-02T13:50:19.823377Z
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@dave The ones who cry out at sanity the most usually turn out to be the biggest pedophiles
(DIR) Post #AXHzEmHBlmpcXQ7fns by Hyperhidrosis@shitposter.club
2023-07-02T16:18:22.536716Z
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@dave why are "people" mad about this? even my school (who won't pay for my classes because i'm not black enough) sent out an email>We have come to address the devastating decision made by the supremes yesterday
(DIR) Post #AXI7YOA5w3z1AofP16 by pcachu@shitposter.club
2023-07-02T17:51:33.927180Z
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@Hyperhidrosis @dave when someone believes that blacks and browns are incapable of competing on their actual merits, hence the asserted need for the proverbial thumb on the scale, but saying so out loud comes across as condescending and super-racist (because it is, on both counts), the only alternative to facing that reality is raging at the reason the issue must be addressed in the first place.
(DIR) Post #AXIBC2Hb04b2lLlw0W by Piss_Ant@spinster.xyz
2023-07-02T18:32:20.438694Z
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@dave An Australian was telling me today about how devastating and surreal hearing the news was
(DIR) Post #AXIbG6ehHZmkI5BAhs by dave@gleasonator.com
2023-07-02T23:24:22.187909Z
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@Piss_Ant It’s only “devastating and surreal” because he doesn’t understand what the case was about. This ruling just prevents universities from discriminating based on race.
(DIR) Post #AXJuP6lUKxoNWXJzv6 by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-07-03T14:08:49.384944Z
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@dave @Piss_Ant It achieves the opposite. It allows discrimination based on race. The ruling eliminates the requirement to systemically avoid it.
(DIR) Post #AXJuP7fqxOtkLLh0m8 by dave@gleasonator.com
2023-07-03T14:33:34.576766Z
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@leftout @Piss_Ant If whether I accept or reject someone with a particular set of test scores and academic record depends on their race, I’m discriminating on the basis of race. If it doesn’t, then I’m not. Whether you think the discrimination is justified is another matter, but it’s discrimination regardless.
(DIR) Post #AXJxP2MF1TLtiYAc3U by dave@gleasonator.com
2023-07-03T15:07:00.341568Z
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@leftout @Piss_Ant Maybe when your parents went to college. Nowadays it’s the opposite of what you claim, and has been that way for decades. That’s what the lawsuit was about.
(DIR) Post #AXJy2XDkD0hyjO1uJk by taylan@pl.tkammer.de
2023-07-03T15:14:21.736092Z
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@dave @leftout @Piss_Ant If this is about *not mandating* affirmative action, then I agree. If it's about forbidding it, then I disagree.
(DIR) Post #AXKAnzV6577lV3XdzM by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-07-03T14:59:39.053397Z
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@dave @Piss_Ant Your assumption that test scores are the determining factor is incorrect. Affirmative action reduced white applicants with inferior test scores to be admitted over people of colour with superior test scores. Even with affirmative action, it still happened, it just happened less. People of privilege and family history with a university are favoured, and they are overwhelmingly white.
(DIR) Post #AXKQc5bt8geOEw460e by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-07-03T20:25:19.697207Z
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@dave @Piss_Ant You’re selecting data from one single university. Where is the information about legacy applicants? Affirmative action pales in comparison.https://youtu.be/E-QDbGvVcHMI think you’ll find that afterwards Harvard is not filled with asians, like their data suggests it should be.
(DIR) Post #AXKQc6cHOiYdMRFvG4 by dave@gleasonator.com
2023-07-03T20:34:26.508136Z
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@leftout @Piss_Ant You’re selecting data from one single university.Dude you are Canadian as fuck. “Minorities get preferential treatment in college admissions” is such a well-understood fact that you frequently see white people (and Asians) falsify their ethnicity on college and scholarship applications.Where is the information about legacy applicants?You asserted that minorities aren’t given preferential treatment in college admissions, which is patently false. Quit dodging and defend this assertion.I think you’ll find that afterwards Harvard is not filled with asians, like their data suggests it should be.Maybe, I’m certainly less confident that this assertion is wrong than I am about your first one..
(DIR) Post #AXSCRzSAvtSjRtpZqa by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-07-07T14:00:02.176953Z
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@dave @Piss_Ant I thought you were smart enough to understand that the people admitted to universities are not chosen based on test scores. Legacy admissions give an advantage over acceptances many times over what affirmative counter balanced. Show me the test scores of the people admitted and not just of people applying. I’m sure you understand the difference.And I’m sure you’re also aware the privileged class are specifically advantaged and have foreknowledge and tutoring to score well in entrance tests. Compare the Harvard test scores against double blind general aptitude and intelligence tests and you will see different results.Did you watch the video I linked? Beau gets what you don’t. Your motivated reasoning is working against objectivity and against your own interests should you or someone you know apply to Harvard. The black guy didn’t bump you from your spot at Harvard, 6 other legacy applicants with poorer test scores did that.
(DIR) Post #AXSR1OHrzYyVxmmjYm by dave@gleasonator.com
2023-07-07T17:16:45.471963Z
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@leftout @Piss_Ant The higher admission rates for the same test scores among Hispanics, and especially among blacks, weren’t because of legacy admissions. They were because Harvard, like many other colleges, discriminate on the basis of race. They fought for the right in court to continue to do this, that’s what the case was about, and you are conflating two separate issues here.
(DIR) Post #AXSSQr2oJKBGLURmUK by Jens_Rasmussen@gleasonator.com
2023-07-07T17:32:36.338518Z
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@dave @leftout @Piss_Ant "Legacy admission" means "jews", right?
(DIR) Post #AXSqQCbf3Vb5pUyCxc by Piss_Ant@spinster.xyz
2023-07-07T22:01:24.724640Z
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@dave @leftout I don't think he's conflating. The original complaint was that Asian American students were being held to higher admission standards than white American students, at least 2 years ago when I heard about this Harvard lawsuit. I didn't really understand until much more recently that that was due to legacy admissions, not affirmative action (for white students, lol). But I genuinely think a lot of journalists and activists are doing some mixing and matching to conflate the two and try to convince people that getting rid of affirmative action, but not legacy admissions is somehow going to help Asian American applicants. It sounds like this is not the case, and I wouldn't be surprised if nothing changes about the admission standards for Asian Americans vs white Americans.
(DIR) Post #AXWN32NwltbJQjzsLg by dave@gleasonator.com
2023-07-09T14:51:05.308070Z
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@Piss_Ant @leftout He is. Many colleges discriminate on the basis of race with the justification being past discrimination holding those groups back. This is called affirmative action, and was a temporary carveout to our anti-discrimination laws, which generally forbid discrimination on the basis of ethnicity.Check the chart I posted, read the Introductory portion of the actual SCOTUS briefing. While legacy admissions may play into it, knowledge of US history should tell you that African American and Hispanic applicants aren’t having an easier time getting in because of legacy admissions.