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 (DIR) Post #AXOvIAVt4dVSrn4wgS by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T00:37:09Z
       
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       gotta be soldiers out there that can answer this one. what is with games and movies where ppl are shooting with a pistol in each hand? i'm a noob so i can't comment but i see that as feigning double the firepower at the cost of all one's accuracy. i see having the 2nd pistol as a backup in case my primary jams/falls/runs dry.am i correct that "double pistols" is just theatre or am i missing something?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOw5VuoI42xQvGXj6 by ayy@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T00:46:03Z
       
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       @greyknight33 You're bugged about this and not the thousand other fantasy elements?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOwMqPRLahRuvrAZs by Iamthebammbamm@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T00:49:12Z
       
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       @greyknight33 just theater. Pistols are to get to a rifle
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOwt68wNtrnyvWEWu by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T00:55:01Z
       
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       @ayy yeah, there's a bunch we can rhyme off (heck, why not? itd be funny). just thought, "man, could someone actually split their focus down two different sights?" it'd be pretty neat, effin' chameleon eyes!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOx3C4JD27VFqANDk by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T00:56:51Z
       
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       @Iamthebammbamm i'd go more with pistols are for when my rifle isn't working properly (jammed, fell down/runs dry) or when i don't have the rifle handy.i heard a story once. Buddy meets his friend and sees he's got a pistol on his hip then asks him "woah, why do you have that pistol? expecting trouble" and Buddy responds "no, if i was expecting trouble, i'd be carrying a rifle"
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOxwQCAO6t0zkAzq4 by Pnakp@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:06:50Z
       
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       @greyknight33 not in the military but all the firepower in the world won't do you any good if your not able to be accurate and hit said target. The same reason I set my wife up with a 9mm pistol instead of a 45; she isn't accurate with a 45 but she is with a 9mm.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOySSWjFpNfUd4ScC by Klaatu@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:12:37Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @ayy They learned it looked cool when they were making pirate movies. But pirates really carried two pistols because it took too long to reload a muzzleloader, plus you're not vulnerable while drawing out your sword after the first shot.The only modern advantage is less arm arc movement in subsequent targeting so you can suppress fire with one hand while targeting with the other and then switch quicker with a head move as you're spraying to clean out a room.And then there's
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOyc0O0jeAB71XrDU by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:14:21Z
       
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       @Pnakp makes complete sense to me. now this would be for self-defence. a .45 would be great on my hip if in the woods and a bear approaches (i'm sure the 9mm would just bounce off him) but definitely matters not if you can't hit the target. man i should start a list of hilarious hollywood action stunts.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOyezp1I2gwEMbXV2 by Klaatu@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:14:52Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @ayy #Equilibrium (2002) 1080p BR X2641GBView: https://is.gd/9PehSfDL: https://is.gd/Vb5uvJEquilibrium 001 (2016).cbr  (comic book)47.4 MBView: https://tinyurl.com/2mcsqdcdDL: https://tinyurl.com/2q4b4e2yGet Your #GunKata on...
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOzShx40OOdHo4TvU by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:23:51Z
       
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       @Klaatu @ayy YES! you are a mind reader. first off, fantastic movie! top 10 if not the top 3. i guess if one had some bad ass head gear with targeting systems, a gun in each hand is beneficial due to "gun fu" concepts. right now tho, i feel there's too much loss in single handing each pistol and i'm with the "rather have a rifle" group.back in muzzle loader days, i guess it was faster to draw your pistol and shoot than to draw your sword? i always thought its to weaken the offense from afar
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOzdxyGmm6I9g0IiG by CliffordTheBigRedDog@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:25:54Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Iamthebammbamm I don’t like that response. I carry because of the unknown. If I knew there’d be trouble I wouldn’t go.Don’t go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid stuff. -Life rule for success
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOzokCCLI9icJerAG by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:27:51Z
       
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       @CliffordTheBigRedDog @Iamthebammbamm that phrase means exactly what you are saying tho :Pbtw i stole that from Tom Clancy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXOzvV4CzPj9is8tNo by CliffordTheBigRedDog@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:29:04Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Iamthebammbamm I forgot who I stole mine from, but I did steal it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP09keDrCCM6Gmcbo by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:31:39Z
       
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       @CliffordTheBigRedDog @Iamthebammbamm if these phrases weren't meant to be stolen, then ppl wouldn't make them in the first place... and we'd be far more retarded today without the shared knowledge, so imo, take as many as you can squeeze in the noggin.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP0CDvXy3xxUJ47M0 by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:32:06Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Klaatu @ayy Loaded guns are heavy, if someone is double fisting, it's probably a Hollywood script. Very difficult to get good accuracy like you said. @Klaatu is dead accurate about pirates and their pistols, in fact during Westward Expansion two single-action, revolver pistols were carried also for the sake of avoiding a long reload, and real shooters left one chamber empty.This is a great video on one of the few times Wyatt Earp talked on gunfighters.https://youtu.be/7a249qHxh90
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP0GlOfTDE2RzqqG0 by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T01:32:55.159052Z
       
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       @greyknight33 Akimbo (a gun in each hand) is just a coolness factor. Movies do it because its cool. People on the range, do it because its cool.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP0xgIeISWx5uV6oa by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:40:40Z
       
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       @greyknight33 An old lady gets pulled over by a cop, and as the officer comes over to the passenger window she informs him that she has weapons in her purse. He grabs the bag and looks in it, and finds a 1911 pistol, a 44 magnum revolver and some other gun. He looks at her and says, "Geeze Lady, what are you afraid of?!" She replies "Not a godamn thing!"She got off with a warning.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP1V9P76nd8uqU4TQ by Floydian_Psychology@poa.st
       2023-07-06T01:33:54.318334Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @greyknight33 youtube.com/watch?v=Z2eCmhBgsyI
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP2cNhyQMwpGEJjkW by SirFungi@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T01:59:14Z
       
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       @greyknight33 pistols are a tool used to fight your way to a real gun. Carry with this in mind.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP2pWwhOHz9fuTVLs by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:01:36Z
       
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       @KillerMule @Klaatu @ayy thanks for this! hat tip to you sir! this was a fantastic listen!i 100% see Wyatt's points and observations. very impressive about the empty chamber. i bought a holster for my glock as i'm scared to walk around with one in the chamber. guess i'm not alone in that thought.heard another version of Wyatt's phrase (kinda similar), the hurrier you go the behinder you get. more applicable to everything in life.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP2y4TGd1MLy6mU3k by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:03:09Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls i'd like to see his trigger assembly.in our day and age, does feel like gun in each hand is useless. a rifle would be WAY better with pistols on the hip. very up close, submachine gun.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP3ImKTH5FnmeXac4 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:06:54Z
       
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       @Floydian_Psychology @StoleMyThundersBalls i guess i need some one handed M4 practice LOL
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP3PLpOCiolcP8WoK by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:08:05Z
       
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       @SirFungi working our way to societal acceptance of constitutional carry here... despite being the way and written into law. jeez, does it take a Canadian for everyone here to grow a pair?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP3WjRomi6AtvdAem by Floydian_Psychology@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:07:35.393454Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @StoleMyThundersBalls my fav thing is the use of the dual mp5ks in the beginning
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP3Wk3OX09kmTDBE8 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:09:25Z
       
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       @Floydian_Psychology @StoleMyThundersBalls holy crap and the lift on those things. really neat sub but gotta have arms like Rambo to keep those puppies from climbing! definitely a fantastic movie and dynamite scene. A+
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP3vUtC394AzLFCwC by Floydian_Psychology@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:12:03.926041Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @StoleMyThundersBalls i just think mp5s are cool, the iranian embassy hostage situation made them cool, of course swat teams in the us switched to ar 15s after the 90s ended because cops are fags, but before that they used mp5s,
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP3vViEzLtpXf7yVM by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:13:53Z
       
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       @Floydian_Psychology @StoleMyThundersBalls wonder why? maybe a German supplier shift to US supplier? tho built 2 ARs now and SUPER easy and very logical so can't complain there. haven't tried an MP5 yet so will add to the docket. got others in the queue tho :S
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP3z9rcADgOwBFeUa by mikegastin@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:14:33Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @SirFungi
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP40P9KoibqdR8OIq by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:14:46.995395Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology @greyknight33 AR-9s are okay, AR-45s are where its at.MP5 vs M1A2 thompson
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP41HzeuOY8jM1wMC by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:14:56Z
       
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       @mikegastin @SirFungi 💯 X💯
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP4CfX1jb8iv042kK by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:17:00Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Floydian_Psychology NICE! PSA has few sub components in stock. there an easy conversion kit for an AR15 receiver?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP4VtSIBtcNbV15rE by Floydian_Psychology@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:18:49.960022Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @StoleMyThundersBalls mp5s are the best close quarters combat submachine gun , the civilian variety mp5k i think is legal in most us states
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP4Vu1k45yTNRbP72 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:20:28Z
       
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       @Floydian_Psychology @StoleMyThundersBalls i'll keep an eye out. thanks! definitely neat stuff :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP4WUtWzaOJih2rx2 by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:20:34.580150Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology lowers are universal just get the the upper you want and then a magwell adapter.These look the same I guess I can't see the difference on mobile.opticsplanet.com/stern-defense-mag-admp45-ar-15-m-p-45-acp-magazine-conversion-adapter.htmlpalmettostatearmory.com/stern-defense-ar-15-mag-well-adapter-for-9mm-glock-black-mag-ad9.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP4lw628i1aQbFrns by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:23:22.546146Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology 9mm vs 10mm vs .45 depends on what you want to shoot.More bullets per mag = 9mmMore power per bullet = 10mmWon two world wars + basically subsonic = .45 acp
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP5H2ClTgzcLnESy8 by Bad_Banner@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:28:59.740555Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology I'm a capacity kind of man myself, got multiple extended glock mags. Also, this is why I got the Keltec KSG (12ga)
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP5LmHC7xE4OfZ9gu by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-07-06T02:29:51.540319Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Floydian_Psychology @greyknight33 mfw it's not a GFL thread
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP5afi2pE8MNEE8Bc by WashedOutGundamPilot@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:32:31.726489Z
       
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       @greyknight33 This is up there w/ girls asking “why do you guys like us walking around w/ pushup bras? You realize it’s an illusion, right?”
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP5fjwmUsUkxrXKka by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:33:27.685416Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology Totally understandable.  I only want a .45 acp upper because I have a .458 suppressor.  Works with anything smaller diam. then. .458.  But the smaller the bullet the less effective it is. Yes its registered and I don't care.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP5pIkCUXmXUZD9yC by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:35:11.300935Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Zerglingman @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology Gangstas 4 life
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP6JQ8tY7sF7o7kAK by Bad_Banner@poa.st
       2023-07-06T02:40:37.949434Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Floydian_Psychology @greyknight33 I'm not for or against any gun (or how people get them) because people got their preferences for their self-defense; so long as they have one I'm fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP74p7mU6HkDRCqxs by Pnakp@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T02:49:12Z
       
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       @greyknight33 idk if a 45 is any more effective than a 9mm against a bear once you consider the velocity, bullet mass, and bullet surface area of contact. For a bear I'd bet penetration is key. Not sure if either one would penetrate.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP8pyU5bPxkoEgijQ by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:08:55Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Klaatu @ayy Yeah the getting injured in the wild west thing was quite a consideration, not a lot of hospitals. Also getting shot with a dung covered arrow from the natives was also formidable. I carry a 1911 A1 officers model with one in the pipe and a full mag, hammer back, safety on and holstered. Just like a cop. Glock has just that trigger safety so I get the safety concern. But you're also more than doubling your response time when you need it. And may we never ever need it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXP9MqHp6R5wwMchYe by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:14:50Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Klaatu @ayy My not professional advice is to have a holster you're confident in if it isnloaded ready to go, or maybe consider a different platform with a safety you're comfortable with. Also, if there's children around changes how I carry, or secure things, or the status of my firearm. For instance there's three stages of ready with a 1911, mag loaded, not chambered(safe&slow) |Chambered but hammer down (very dangerous)| Chambered hammer back, safety on. (safe&fast)
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPA4I5Zbs1XcVbxU8 by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:22:41Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Klaatu @ayy Always go with what you're comfortable with and have the most experience with. Muzzle control is the king of the discipline. Practice grows confidence and usually makes you a safer shooter. Remember the big 4 rules of safety. Avoid the rules of stupid. It's always loaded. Gun maintenance is as important as shooting. Be on the right side of the range if you can. Don't fiddle with it. If it didn't sound right when it went off, don't pull the trigger again. Have fun!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPCDGbsg4J7Y28AOe by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:46:40Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Floydian_Psychology i'll definitely look into this. got a couple projects but be kinda neat if this can be an easy adaption. didn't even think it was possible!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPCRdtktB1PpULWSW by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:49:20Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology .458 suppressor works for .45acp? always thought .06 was needed for clearance. good call on the subsonic tho, gotta make running the can a dream.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPCSRTwXQ5FbuecAS by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:49:29Z
       
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       @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology @StoleMyThundersBalls 💯
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPCgxFtCbbeCx06DI by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:52:06Z
       
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       @WashedOutGundamPilot then the gals get the sports bras for combat ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPCsYggN3FtUG49IW by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:54:12Z
       
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       @Pnakp heard rifle up close is no bueno. my first inclination was bullet diameter and stopping power. short of having a shotgun, my next thought was a high caliber with great stopping power, so .45acp and .44mag come to mind. maybe loop .357mag in there too. at least the boom of the latter two will freak the honkin' creature out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPDHbGTvQ3wiikeZM by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T03:58:40Z
       
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       @KillerMule @Klaatu @ayy and no problems on your end so either these guys who experience accidental discharges are dummies/careless or lady luck just feels comfortable around you. plus, carrying appendix makes me nervous with a barrel pointed right at my nads. might try behind but not sure how much conceal i'll get here.many hospitals or not, i'd rather not visit one. new holster has a trigger guard so maybe that will be enough
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPDUxvCzycikoAs0O by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T04:01:09Z
       
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       @KillerMule @Klaatu @ayy plus for most revolvers, there's half cock too. great for competitions but maybe better than hammer down?definitely miss the 1911 tho, absolute best pistol ever. plus drawing while disengaging the safety i found a breeze, basically eliminating the benefit of the trigger "safety"
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPDrv2VsezKTXXIS8 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T04:05:17Z
       
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       @KillerMule @Klaatu @ayy A.C.T.S. ;) tho i like your 4 better, much more fun tho yours i guess are 6 rules so a bit better than A.C.T.S.speaking of maintenance, what's your ideal site to pick up a maintenance kit? range sells a comprehensive one for $55 but that's kinda rich. less worried about the glock but the AR needs some love.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPGLVwlwFnPFR5g80 by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T04:33:03Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Klaatu @ayy Its funny my kid is the A/R guy, I shoot bolt action rifles and shotguns generally. I'm not sure what he does exactly on his rifle. I use hoppes #9 or safariland CLP BreakFree, 1 wet, and 3-4 dry cotton wads, then hoppes gun oil lightly. I have cheap dentist tools from a swapmeet or harbor freight for detail work. White pipe cleaners can be useful for small ports and stuff. I bore snake the 12ga barrel, and clp the bolt and use qtips in my chamber. Walmart, cheap kits
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPH8n2lA8oSSgO66K by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T04:41:57Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Klaatu @ayy Yeah its just the 1911 in .45 just isn't considered practical a lot of times, but that's my baby. But I can shoot Glocks, Springfield XD, 1911 A1 & Match, CZ P10C (2nd fav), Ruger GP100 .357/.38 decently. The ballistics now on 9mm are very good though. Of all the gun maintenance things, the cloth patches are what cost me the most. Find your best deal on that. Walmart has cheap and common cleaning kits usually around $20-$30 dpending on caliber and length needed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPHON8VFlO4kEVKAS by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T04:44:46.392974Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology The adapter is $175 and a 9mm lower is $199. Maybe splurge and get the dedicated lower?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPLCJB6XjAaoKDx68 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T05:27:24Z
       
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       @KillerMule @Klaatu @ayy simple enough. was thinking about the barrel being so long plus the buffer tube tho wife has some of those cotton swab things, they might do in there. hoppes #9, gonna nab some of that, thanks!hobby is expensive, gotta save dough wherever possible!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPLO6v7wVKaGkNWoy by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T05:29:33Z
       
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       @KillerMule @Klaatu @ayy i bet 9mm is dime a dozen, plus might be able to squeeze the wife's makeup swabs in there. but the 5.56 might need something a bit more special. tis a tight squeeze
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPNsW2DKg6okuJrQu by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T05:57:27.501901Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology yah .45 acp is smaller then .458 socom it works fine.  Like 7.62 and 9mm.Some people don't recomend it but it technically any 30 cal should be fine
       
 (DIR) Post #AXPy4pIL98ikJZ21Vw by Pnakp@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T12:43:01Z
       
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       @greyknight33 for handguns you want at least 44 mag. Rifle is the best thing to have no matter the distance. Put holes in arteries and organs to cause as much blood loss and blood pressure drop as possible. That's how you kill things. Pistol rounds barely kill humans, they aren't ideal for grizzlies. They're better than a stick or knife but I'd take a rifle any day over a handgun. The only advantage a handgun would have is if it's on top of you. But you're probably screwed by that point anyway.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQEESfFjtNOI2MhVY by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T15:44:03Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology got it, the can is sized for .458, sorry, got mixed up there. i'll have to play around with these a bit. always figured the tighter the better to ensure less escaping gas but of course, my biggest fear is clipping the can itself! double bad if that happens 😬
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQEJElsowYeeJkAwC by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T15:44:57Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Floydian_Psychology make my own lower, just don't have the specs for one at .45. meh, still, a project for later :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQFsrJTcBQEH40SWm by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T16:02:35.509746Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology I've had a baffle strike before, the can came loose, on the threaded barrel adapter after a long day of shooting and, *I* forgot to check to see if it was loose. Not the can's fault. Not the problem of the design. *ME* it was my fault for not checking.I guarantee any can/tube rated for full auto would have enough room for your bullets to fly by flawlessly. Here is the thing about suppressors and the baffle diameter tolerance:  It will reduce the rapport from about 165 to 140 db. Period. You might have the tightest most finely tuned can and it will still be loud. It will be maybe a few more decibels louder if your can's baffle diameter is wider. So that diameter doesn't really mater to much.Here is what DOES matter:First is Tone. You want a can that takes the loud blast of the bullet and makes it into a sound that doesn't hurt your ears. If you aren't shooting subsonics you will never get rid of the sound of the bullet breaking the sound barrier.The second thing that matters is volume.  More gasses (larger bullets) require more voluminous suppressors. Smaller calibers = smaller thinner cans. Because less gas.  Third thing is length. Longer = more baffles = more volume. It also increases barrel length and makes the gun more cumbersome.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQG7lU3ZQuSXS3xIm by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T16:05:12.403194Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Floydian_Psychology joeboboutfitters.com/Spartan-45ACP-Glock-Magazine-Compatible-Billet-Low-p/jb-spartan45.htmYah something like this then.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQHrvQed5Dzx1Nygi by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T16:24:49Z
       
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       @Pnakp jeez, just convinced me a sawed off shotgun at my side is best for in the woods. just don't want the creature's adrenaline kicking in and temporarily bypassing the blood loss issue (takes time). thought stopping power would be the way. that monster sure would feel a couple 12g slugs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQII28CKhRWGcCbC4 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T16:29:33Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology can't get lower than 140db? i shot a sig with a can (tho was wearing ears) and couldn't even hear it, just the slide moving. i imagine the receiving end would just hear the bullets hitting the target.def gonna test with subsonic. figured impossible to surpass the sonic boom. all makes perfect sense. so really, only go with a smaller can when the round has less powder (i.e. never use mag rounds).
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQIMxr5erZuSAYG0m by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T16:30:26Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology btw, the only down side of a longer can is just the cumbersomeness? otherwise its more effective since more baffles are possible? no other factor?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQIjwDfuDlA2a4Oum by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T16:34:35.717432Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology It would be heavier all other things considered equal.  Light metals like titanium or alluminum would only be slightly heavier.  The weight difference between a 6" and 8" titanium can wouldn't be much. But the weight difference between a 6" and a 12" stainless steel can would be significant.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQIsmYXCi3cfy2nVg by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T16:36:11Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Floydian_Psychology nice, even got finger grooves on the mag well :)definitely gonna add this to the project list thanks!
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQJ3cu3QwYtvJHTLk by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T16:38:08Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology makes sense, twice the length gotta be close to twice the weight. and i can't imagine stabalizing the pistol by holding the can with your left. ouchie.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQJdxETKKzdOm9ZpY by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T16:44:42.168041Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology they have suppresor covers made of neoprene or some other type of thermal interference rubber.  Also canvas. But most guys recomend gloves if you are going to grab the can to check if it is on securely.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQKWFJqIVJ78AYOWG by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T16:54:31.319215Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology I have also shot cans that get regular rounds down to hearing safe levels.  That is why I said tone is more important.  It can still be 130db but sound pitch has changed where you don't hear the shot.  For example a dog whistle is so highpitched we don't hear it.  (Not quiet the same, but you get the idea)
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQQk3KcGMltjOslea by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T18:04:15Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology thermal interference rubber... sounds pretty awesome. only thing tho is it probably slows down the heat dissipation. probably gloves is the way to go then?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQQv8wdjWOGKGxKng by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T18:06:15Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology ooohhhh got it. so more sound frequency than amplitude (dB). correct me if i'm wrong, so the sound is bouncing in the can thus causing the frequency to slip to a low band, thus outside of most ppl's range of hearing?
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQedGlPK5Zoin4bzs by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T20:39:54.049350Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology I would think its a higher fqz more then a lower one. But I can't find any information about it on line. The best I could come up with is dipole whistle physics.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQg4ue9FOEiBmQIKG by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T20:56:05Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology interesting point. in that case, the design shouldn't just be baffles to capture unburnt powder (and help cool gases) but to resonate to >20MHz, or really > 12MHz and most can't hear that anyway. so designing the baffles as a kind of dog whistle is the best silencer.interest the science behind whistles but a little out of my league at the moment tho if you need a break from the daily grind:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_of_whistles
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQgRDys2lZCWXks8O by StoleMyThundersBalls@poa.st
       2023-07-06T21:00:08.121818Z
       
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       @greyknight33 @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology I think anything past 20khz is unhearable by humans.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQggvKp8WGbKOVdwG by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T21:02:57Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology yes, you'd have to be a super human to hear above that but most adults can't hear past 15MHz, even 12MHz. there's fun little tests online for that where they play a tone and you gauge whether you heard it. kids can hear higher frequencies than adults but 20MHz is typically the cap.still, if you can't get to 20 but get to 15, i think that's good enough for production.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQh9t1QoXuGYLFW3k by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T21:08:10Z
       
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       @StoleMyThundersBalls @Bad_Banner @Floydian_Psychology listened to these thru my headphones. the lowest and highest ones need volume but the middle ones are LOUD. anyway, what's the 16MHz one sound like?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_frequency
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQqBzojQ6vJnJOE52 by Pnakp@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T22:49:26Z
       
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       @greyknight33 I suppose it depends on "stopping power" definition. CPL defense classes teach to continue shooting (human attackers) until they are incapacitated/no longer a threat. When things die/cease attacking, it's due to severe blood pressure drop which is due to massive blood loss. I suppose adrenaline could allow them to overcome low blood pressure and continue attacking but I'm not sure I guess. Hopefully neither of us encounter a human or animal attacker that requires using guns.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQqQYBGSEtsQOrxQm by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T22:52:03Z
       
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       @Pnakp i'm with you 100% on that! really hope it never happens but especially in today's day and age, better to have one (plus the training) and never use it than not have it and wish you did.i heard that its worse when a bullet goes clean thru soft tissue but better when it stops inside the target. just means all energy has been transferred and thus all the force is felt, plus got the foreign object in the receiver. i heard grizzlies get crazy mean so would rather be super prepared.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQt4dD7NA09W4yaBc by Pnakp@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T23:21:43Z
       
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       @greyknight33 agreed. Also sawing off your shotgun in the US is a sticky situation. I'd advise against it or ensure it's legal length. Google Ruby Ridge...
       
 (DIR) Post #AXQtKnq5ciXv76ur2m by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
       2023-07-06T23:24:37Z
       
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       @Pnakp jeez good point 😬 so totally not going to do that man, no way at all for anyone tuning in.