Post AXM2bnZsAs61jHN2Su by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
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(DIR) Post #AXM1V5IBoSjYgoKlSy by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-04T15:02:10.573116Z
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@opalium mastodon did this with the existing fediverse to Kickstart lol
(DIR) Post #AXM2GNi79Vc9QH0rwG by sim@shitposter.club
2023-07-04T15:11:07.265169Z
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@Moon @opalium That is true. We have seen this happen before when mastodon came along and people had to fix problems that mastodon caused, and even move over to activitypub to remain a part of that side. It broke how things worked with ostatus, most threads became unreadable because people used scopes that weren't recognised. In the end, GS has been largely left behind and has had to adapt to activitypub too. Now most people that use mastodon are completely unaware of the history of the fediverse, if they even know what the fediverse means and don't just call it the mastodon network.
(DIR) Post #AXM2bknwU6ZH82vjTk by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T11:59:21Z
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#Threads by #Meta forcing itself into the #Fediverse is bad and will harm the Fediverse as a whole if not straight up kill it.I am baffled to see claims such as "we should give them a chance!" or "this could help the Fediverse grow!", as if we're not talking about one of the probably most immoral, unethical, and predatory businesses in this day and age.Meta isn't coming to play fair. They're coming to use us for profit."Embrace, extend, extinguish."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish1/🧵#thread
(DIR) Post #AXM2blk4zx4Y2M8A64 by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T12:04:35Z
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#Meta is well known for how it removes its competitors from its way. If they can't easily crush them with their size, they buy them young - #whatsapp and #instagram come to mind. Meta has money, and they don't want anyone in their way. Buyouts are the easiest solution.But the Fediverse cannot be bought. No one controls it. It's a collection of servers, each with its own operators and principles. There is nothing central that Meta can control here......except for one: the #protocol.2/🧵
(DIR) Post #AXM2bmfVYR0euT01bs by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T12:19:03Z
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#XMPP. Chrome's Blink. ActiveX. The <font> tag. Even the file types your spreadsheet software uses. These are examples of open protocols (or parts of) that were taken over by a tech giant.Because it doesn't matter how open the protocol is, if one player simply outshines the rest.When #Google implemented XMPP into Google Talk, they slowly pulled things their way. Different implementations, protocol changes, etc. Others had no choice but to follow, or lose the biggest share of users.3/🧵
(DIR) Post #AXM2bnZsAs61jHN2Su by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T12:24:09Z
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When you're big enough and the vast majority of users are in your "instance", you effectively have control. If you stop playing by the rules, all other players have to either adapt to your new rules to keep federating with you, or split off and lose the vast majority of users, and have your own users move because "there's where everyone is".And once the "big" player sucks the rest of the network dry, they can just bail and leave its hollowed victim to struggle.4/🧵
(DIR) Post #AXM2boJbQqfy16lYkC by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T12:27:56Z
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Meta's plan for the Fediverse and ActivityPub is likely no different. At first they will play nice and lure in #Mastodon servers and users. Mastodon will see a meteoric rise in activity - but most of it will be from #Threads.Meta needs Mastodon to seed activity in Threads. By federating, they can show how "active and flourishing" their app already is, with activity from servers showing in their app.It's much easier to kickstart a platform when you have years worth of content already.5/🧵
(DIR) Post #AXM2boz4wdqw5kAgOO by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T12:32:03Z
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But as it grows, #Threads will stop playing by the rules. At first just slightly, with different implementations that the Fediverse will have to adapt to. Then bigger changes - perhaps a new "moral" way to monetize content. Mastodon admins will gladly take the help in paying the costs.And since Threads has all the users, servers will have to either play along and stay federated, or break off and lose most users, plus risk their own migrating to where the action is.6/🧵
(DIR) Post #AXM2bpmLzRGgYZE2CG by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T12:34:54Z
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Eventually #Meta will have the final say when it comes to #ActivityPub. Like how all word processors must support .docx, and all websites are built with Chromium compatibility in mind.This is how you take over an open protocol."Embrace, extend, extinguish."7/🧵
(DIR) Post #AXM2bqTbOdrYihSZbk by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T12:41:16Z
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#Meta isn't here to play fair. They're not here to help grow the Fediverse. They want to use it as a kickstart for their own #Threads walled garden, and they will suck the life out of the Fediverse if we won't resist their reach.They're a cold, heartless, profit-driven #mega #corporation. Not an ally.We must not fall into this trap. We must not tag along. Meta can't take over if we won't give them the initial footing.Don't trust them. Don't federate with them.#DefederateFromMeta8/🧵
(DIR) Post #AXM2br6F4ylseXXQps by lina@eientei.org
2023-07-04T15:14:50.476082Z
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@opalium or you could just make some bots that would spam gore, the words "nigger" and "kike" at all threads.net users until their jannies stop federating on their own and eventually just leave the fediverse as they realize that all they're gonna have is dealing with bot spam from many nodes
(DIR) Post #AXM3MygOheIbmXv3E8 by errante@rot.gives
2023-07-04T15:23:28.586574Z
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@opalium im going to send erotic drswings of children to mark zuckerberg
(DIR) Post #AXM4nmEnBLmoxNLkci by opalium@mastodon.opalium.net
2023-07-04T15:38:28Z
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@sim @Moon This is a good point and I admit I wasn't aware of this. If anything, it shows the risk of major players pulling everyone along is real. However, this wasn't my point.At the end of the day, *someone* takes the lead over a protocol. A project needs a leader.My point is, this leader being a horrible and heartless corporation is far more alarming than it being an open source project with overall good intentions and with the goal of improving the Fediverse.
(DIR) Post #AXM5USlDTNvh0As0WG by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2023-07-04T15:47:16.735368Z
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@Moon @opaliumimage.png
(DIR) Post #AXMCHCpm4jQ7WNczGi by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2023-07-04T17:03:18.603659Z
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@opalium DRC will make Meta defederate the good old-fashioned way, by spamming them with nigger bombs and gore.
(DIR) Post #AXMCeQxhiLNzzyPeYC by MechaSilvio@poa.st
2023-07-04T17:07:31.205733Z
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@ChristiJunior @opalium "Will you nigger bomb with a Poaster""How about niggerbombing with a friend"
(DIR) Post #AXMCtXXBYpvGj4DCnw by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2023-07-04T17:10:15.704478Z
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@MechaSilvio @opalium @ChristiJunior >[filtered toot]So he's also a kike
(DIR) Post #AXMD848t7aqTucm1WS by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-07-04T17:12:50Z
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And this is where a war should be waged: do not let Meta/Facebook "extend" the protocol. Do not run servers that implement their extensions.They only have this power if you give it to them. Don't.
(DIR) Post #AXMDtL0OF8b3p2L7hY by sim@shitposter.club
2023-07-04T17:21:20.043318Z
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@opalium @Moon Yeah, it is a major risk. Imagine that one man has been able to do this through mastodon. It seems that everyone else had to adapt to him because he has been pretty inflexible, and it didn't help matters when mastodon became really popular and advertised only itself to get there. Mastodon has been portrayed as this shiny new social network in advertising on it when it stands on the shoulders of giants that came before it here. We already had leaders for GS, people slowly working on the project. Gargron wanted to do his own thing his own way and that was it. It has changed the fediverse and I'm not sure that was for the better. We have only become more closed off. I share your worry about it being a horrible and heartless corporation, but I have been here quite a long time now and it doesn't matter to me whether it is a heartless corporation or one man pushing for changes because it results in the same thing. Gargron has also not been above joining with the EU to advise them on their instances, for example. This has not been the first time that things like this have happened and I doubt it will be the last, unfortunately for people like me that came here to avoid that. Whether it be from corporations or governing bodies.
(DIR) Post #AXMES4FOXasFz2v0V6 by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-07-04T17:27:42.147126Z
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@opalium rather than triple-E, I think Eternal September is closer to the reality of the situationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
(DIR) Post #AXNoFnnLfwXUzTD80O by ishmaellasting@mastodonapp.uk
2023-07-04T12:15:49Z
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@opalium I'm seeing an alarming number of posts on here that are tentatively favourable towards the idea of #Threads. 'You can lead a horse to water, but....' You know, heaven forfend that the internet should have an anti-corporate space. If the only way for the #fediverse to grow is through corporations getting involved then, frankly, there's not much point in it growing anyway. It rather defeats the object.