Post AXLfvOlHqpILbt5PmK by sanecito@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AXELvIbPOQmvJkQCOG by kop316@fosstodon.org
2023-06-30T21:55:29Z
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This week marks 18 months since I have been using a #librem5 as a daily driver. The first few months were probably the roughest, but I have not needed to use Android at all in those 18 months. Today, I actually find it quite useable! It just works as a phone, and I can do everything I used to do on my Android Phone on it.
(DIR) Post #AXELvJNyTrdVkN8z5c by craftyguy@freeradical.zone
2023-06-30T22:13:42Z
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@kop316 Congrats on the milestone! You've definitely helped make it more usable for many others too :D
(DIR) Post #AXJtnrA5O2vSPt41YG by eccentricShaft@mastodon.social
2023-07-02T15:56:16Z
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@kop316 I don't mean to be a prick, but these claims seem disingenuous to me. I have tried using a one plus6 with phosh and KDE and they are so far from usable to me. Is the librem that far ahead? I assume you are driving phosh.I want to use a Linux phone, but the current crop are still worse than the nokia n9 was in 2011.The idea you don't need to touch android, to me, implies that you do almost nothing on your phone.
(DIR) Post #AXJtnsV2PdHOZ9sGqe by kop316@fosstodon.org
2023-07-02T20:04:54Z
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@eccentricShaft I mean, ok? Nothing I said in my post was untruthful. Feel free to look here: https://fosstodon.org/@kop316/110646271330566785 On what I use on my phone.
(DIR) Post #AXJtntKRKWOd8ZvJy4 by eccentricShaft@mastodon.social
2023-07-02T20:36:02Z
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@kop316 I didn't mean to say to you were lying.I was trying to point out that when I read posts like that and then compare it with the state of the world on mobile Linux, I find the two things at odds. There is no way I could daily drive anything I have tried out. I didn't mean to impune your honor.
(DIR) Post #AXJtnuOjM3QGSAwGIK by marcellinusme@mastodon.social
2023-07-03T09:09:22Z
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@eccentricShaft @kop316 @Feakster While I admire individuals who build their own mobile platform with 'Mobile Linux', #Librem5, I do not understand why a #deGoogled #Android like /e/OS is not taken as a starting point. Android is open source and when Google's #datasurveillance is not allowed, you are pretty much on your way. #Phairphone4 with @efoundation is already a full ecosystem, with @fdroidorg @murena #userreplaceablebatteries
(DIR) Post #AXJtnvRFUB1zgH7mrI by kop316@fosstodon.org
2023-07-03T11:30:53Z
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@marcellinusme There can be plenty of reasons: There's the hacker mindset of "Why not?"; Building off of a mainline distribution gives one access to everything in that distribution; Likewise, contributing to making a phone possible does the *opposite* (e.g. I can make my laptop a "phone"!); It is impossible to have a fully functional FOSS userspace phone with AOSP; Google is working towards making Android less open.; Don't build your business off of someone else's product.
(DIR) Post #AXJtnw9uo6lBuo1STo by awai@fosstodon.org
2023-07-03T13:40:34Z
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@kop316 @marcellinusme Also an important point to some of us: AOSP is open-source, but its development is quite locked down, and only serves Google's interests... Working on a Linux-based distro gives developers more leverage to contribute and shape the ecosystem in a way that benefits the community, rather than one single company
(DIR) Post #AXJtyzVufsN5VOaCMy by agx@social.librem.one
2023-07-03T14:28:45Z
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@awai @kop316 @marcellinusme Add to that the fact that many Android apps don't even bother to start when they hit a non-vendor Android claiming it has been "rooted". Same story when you want to run without google play services.
(DIR) Post #AXJvK4pWChgi1qN5ZA by agx@social.librem.one
2023-07-03T14:43:54Z
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@eccentricShaft @kop316 Just to fight the disingenuous: I can fully subscribe to what Chris said there and can add games, giving talks using the phones usb-c output for DP, playing music not only with headphones but also car audio systems via BT (including song information in the cars dash), …I wouldn't say we have still work to do but who hasn't? This might still be a niche compared to proprietary mobile OSes but there's plenty of people using phones like the #librem5 as daily drivers.
(DIR) Post #AXK2Sof0OHaWAIZIC8 by torbuntu@fosstodon.org
2023-07-03T14:46:37Z
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@eccentricShaft @kop316 I'd like to point out, as someone using "linux mobile" for a few years, that using linux on mobile is not an Android/iOS replacement but an Alternative. I don't use my Librem5 to replace my android. I use it instead of android. I left an entire ecosystem for another one I already am familiar with. This is not always possible for folks that don't want to leave an ecosystem and are seeking a replacement, not an alternative.
(DIR) Post #AXKGlJp0fedxNgxs48 by okennedy@social.xthemage.net
2023-07-03T18:44:06Z
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@agx @eccentricShaft @kop316 Fighting the disingenuousness further: It's definitely not for everyone (yet), but I've been daily driving a #Phosh phone (purism or pine64) for about 2 years now for calls, texts/matrix, photography, web browsing, mastodon, note-taking, playing music (headphones, bluetooth), a remote control, network debugging, and some light dev work. Worth noting: #Mobian is really fantastic, but #PureOS really does add a noticeable layer of polish on the #Librem5.
(DIR) Post #AXLfvOlHqpILbt5PmK by sanecito@fosstodon.org
2023-07-03T15:19:41Z
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@awai @kop316 @marcellinusme And it's not just mobile that benefits with the Linux mobile distros' upstream improvements. All of the resourcing used in the Linux mobile space means adjacent tech improves. Your Linux apps are built with toolkits that better accommodate UX patterns for touch, IDEs better support easy distro agnostic distribution like Flatpak, ...Every app that's developed for Linux mobile can be easily used for Linux desktop as well; so no need for disparate apps across systems