Post AXKX2L8ubx1hfSPbxA by feld@bikeshed.party
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 (DIR) Post #AXKX2L8ubx1hfSPbxA by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-07-03T21:45:52.385572Z
       
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       Google Says It'll Scrape Everything You Post Online for AIhttps://gizmodo.com/google-says-itll-scrape-everything-you-post-online-for-1850601486We're going to have to learn that making our data public means it's no longer in our control. It's just the natural order of things
       
 (DIR) Post #AXKXALzBMPYIbCgMHw by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
       2023-07-03T21:47:35.971574Z
       
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       @feld Solution: hide everything behind authentication.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXKXlRkqsIi1CnfOGu by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-07-03T21:54:07.136729Z
       
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       I wouldn't be surprised if Twitter really did have an issue with aggressive datamining by OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, etc and people getting training data for their own private LLMsThis will happen to instances on the Fediverse too. I dread my timelines being full of whinging about it though
       
 (DIR) Post #AXL0cebsbhn78jd5s0 by yojimbo@hackers.town
       2023-07-03T22:36:11Z
       
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       @feld We will end up with a machine-readable contract for sharing data between fediverse nodes (i.e. server-to-server capabilities negotiation) and there will be a netsplit based on whether your instance allows data to be "public/unauthenticated" (our current default) or "to privacy-preserving instances only"I think I'd like this to happen, some people will benefit from it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXL0cfQvXuclh3VrRA by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-07-04T03:17:35.399963Z
       
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       >  and there will be a netsplit based on whether your instance allows data to be "public/unauthenticated" (our current default) or "to privacy-preserving instances only"except anyone can just modify their code to not obey and this mechanism will fail
       
 (DIR) Post #AXL0zgbDNRkfyCIj5c by yojimbo@hackers.town
       2023-07-04T03:19:18Z
       
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       @feld Absolutely. Once there is a reasonable suspicion that the contract (social, technical, whatever) has been broken, defederation happens.
       
 (DIR) Post #AXL0zhfrNf3tItTwy8 by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-07-04T03:21:47.963315Z
       
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       seems like we don't need to waste the man-hours on programming an overly complicated mechanism that can be so easily defeated then
       
 (DIR) Post #AXNZ0AuyRFJSl8rre4 by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-07-05T08:52:36Z
       
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       @_ka_ @feld @js Firewalls
       
 (DIR) Post #AXNZ3sE1sZchwYXodk by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-07-05T08:53:18Z
       
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       @js @feld Robots.txt is more of a guideline than a firm rule.