Post AXC7WfdOpsstpunM1I by stemy@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AXBl6SLRQT9C6AURwO by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2023-06-29T16:04:23Z
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Thanks to all of you who took part in my poll. So I have made my decision: I will no longer hashtag my art with #HumanArt, #HumanMade or #NoAI. I've blogged about why this happened:→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article977/artificial-inteligence-why-i-ll-not-hashtag-my-art-humanart-humanmade-or-noaiThank you for making me change my mind.#krita #MastoArt
(DIR) Post #AXBlrvs9SczXHrQd16 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-06-29T16:19:48.811320Z
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@davidrevoy Haha, ça me démangeais un peu de faire un mauvais troll comme quoi g'mic c'est un peu une AI sur les bords. ^^Blague à part c'est un très bon article, le coté de virer une méta-donné (le hashtag) d'ailleurs est aussi assez intéressant, ça fonctionne pas que pour des choses comme la vie privée.
(DIR) Post #AXC7WfdOpsstpunM1I by stemy@mstdn.social
2023-06-29T20:06:38Z
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@davidrevoy Avec les NFT et l'art IA, il ne fait pas bon d'avoir de l'ambition artistique ces derniers temps. Je vois se profiler un monde où tous les artistes humains auront disparu, où le seul semblant d'art produit ne sera que le résultat sans âme de quelques lignes de code, ce que je qualifierai de dystopie. ça me console un peu d'apprendre que l'art AI se prenne toute cette haine. Bon, ça fait très OK boomer, mais tant pis.
(DIR) Post #AXC7WgVzYuYMZEKx72 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2023-06-29T20:13:37Z
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@stemy Oui, je comprends en tout cas si ce contexte décourage certains jeunes artistes, ou les pousse vers l'aquarelle et les techniques traditionnelles. C'est l'informatique tout entier qui risque de se priver de talents.
(DIR) Post #AXC7pK8YzEggfKGZ5U by Evv1L@mastodon.ml
2023-06-29T20:26:04Z
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@davidrevoy literally said: :blobcatthisisfinegoogly: Good art 👍
(DIR) Post #AXD9g9iekEs2obreQi by lonelyowl@lor.sh
2023-06-30T08:21:48Z
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@davidrevoy > But lately I started to enjoy this behaviour in a new way, because this faking could be what wastes all the data sets and training modelsAI artists from civitai have already made a million of loras, trained on the midjourney outputs. For now it's more like compiler bootstrapping rather than "eating ourselves".To be honest, I think the main problem with using generated images in training is that someone would say that even though the datasets contain no copyrighted hand-drawn images, it's still "unethical" , because they are generated using old models and continue this "ethics" shitpost. In order for this to make sense, we first need to create some kind of model to which no one will have any complaints, and then start bootstrapping.> I will continue to publish all under a permissive Creative Commons licence and with the source files, because that's how I like my art: free and libre.Just at the moment when computer geeks came up with idea how they can use your images to create somewhat free and open source it turned out that it's forbidden. This is funny. I understand why you may not like midjourney, firefly, dalle2 and other non-free stuff (i don't like them too), but SD is completely free, open source and can be used or modified by anyone...> With AI, AIArtists simply type in keywords for a subject.No, we don't, stop it. With no control and editing at all ai draws random broken shit.
(DIR) Post #AXDAVT2UfnpjVIbuU4 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2023-06-30T08:31:00Z
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@lonelyowl > SD is completely free, open sourceYes, but not Free/Libre as GPL (src https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_Diffusion#License ) > it turned out that it's forbidden. it's not, but if you do derivation of my art, you have to keep attribution. I should get credited in this regards legally in all AI images, because my art is part of the dataset. (but I don't want, that would be a nightmare). Also, got already ethical request to train on my art https://www.davidrevoy.com/article642/scientific-paper-sketch-to-line-art-by-waseda-university and accepted 😉
(DIR) Post #AXDEAw1O7fhl7rYfFQ by lonelyowl@lor.sh
2023-06-30T09:12:10Z
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@davidrevoy > Yes, but not Free/Libre as GPLIt's similar to more permissive licenses, i don't think this is bad.> I should get credited in this regards legally in all AI imagesThis is technically possible, pic related.However, result image isn't even bareilly similar to your drawings, also model contains information about thousands of other artist's drawings, which maybe or maybe not used to produce this shitty example test image...
(DIR) Post #AXDEhcyHyGdLbEhJKq by lonelyowl@lor.sh
2023-06-30T09:18:04Z
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@davidrevoy Among other things, your problem is that you reduce the whole process of using AI-art models to "entered three words - waited 8 seconds - got a picture", but this is not always the case. To be honest, I rarely use ai this way.What do you think about this images, are they ai/unethical or not 🤔 https://lor.sh/@lonelyowl/110453224310859637
(DIR) Post #AXDLdCuzarSBJlzkvI by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
2023-06-30T10:35:40Z
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@lonelyowl Please feel free to publish articles, videos and tutorials about your process if you think your audience needs to be informed about your craft involving AI tools. I might reconsider my words about the simplicity of entering a prompt and hitting enter.About the ethic, I have no idea what you are asking... what you used precisely? based on what dataset? and what you want to make with it? Also: not my job to comment on that, if you have an ethic, it's your job to communicate them.
(DIR) Post #AXDO7awN2m4SPwG0zw by lonelyowl@lor.sh
2023-06-30T11:03:37Z
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@davidrevoy I hardly have the patience for full-fledged tutorials or vids, but I think that I could at least do step-by-step processes for creating these pictures.To be honest, I'm not particularly interested in organizing some ai art-education, I just want to stop being considered a subhuman. > About the ethic, I have no idea what you are asking... what you used precisely? The line to the pictures in this post was drawn by hand in procreate and colored by using a controlnet/canny, the model used is camelliamix_line v2 -> https://civitai.com/models/44195/camelliamixline