Post AX9aMjNsM2YdlZGbOC by sue@liberdon.com
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(DIR) Post #AX9XZE1FynqMOMx9Bg by sue@liberdon.com
2023-06-28T14:30:37Z
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I debunk the following arguments in this article:1) Right to healthcare2) Private healthcare is expensive3) Austerity is to blame for the low quality of public healthcare4) State licensing is required5) Free market cartels will keep prices highhttps://sue.hashnode.dev/debunking-5-arguments-for-public-healthcare#healthcare #government #anarchy #state #ethics #philosophy #NHS
(DIR) Post #AX9YJH8OjIwlNHFfBw by atzanteol@techhub.social
2023-06-28T14:38:56Z
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@sue I have a real hard time taking any article seriously that talks about "government funded" as "forcing others to pay for X." Sure, government funding comes from the people. But this posturing is just reductionist and silly.
(DIR) Post #AX9YoIvq646lvUAnjc by sue@liberdon.com
2023-06-28T14:44:33Z
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@atzanteol "Government funding comes from the people" seems like a silly way to put it, which leaves out the fact that people are forced to hand over their money to the government.My definition is less reductionist than yours.
(DIR) Post #AX9YubuyQ6k0Y1m8Aa by atzanteol@techhub.social
2023-06-28T14:43:07Z
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@sue >Therefore, a patient exercising his right to healthcare by forcing a doctor to provide him with healthcare is infringing upon the doctor's right to healthcare since the patient is attempting to improve his own health to the detriment of the doctor's health, without the doctor's consent.*cringe*
(DIR) Post #AX9Yuca5xDdObZ0yGW by sue@liberdon.com
2023-06-28T14:45:41Z
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@atzanteol Your cringing is not an argument. If you are not interested in actually challenging any of the ideas that I have presented then I am not interested in furthering this conversation.
(DIR) Post #AX9ZBQywKie7YMeWem by atzanteol@techhub.social
2023-06-28T14:48:43Z
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@sue Oh I know it's not. Not all arguments are worth spending my time refuting. Your article successfully *destroys* the straw-men you've setup so beautifully that it's impossible to refute.
(DIR) Post #AX9ZYbaV4Dw96hGnZI by sue@liberdon.com
2023-06-28T14:52:55Z
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@atzanteol How are any of these arguments straw-men? For example:1) The idea of "healthcare as a human right" is widespread - it is even on the website of the WHO2) There are plenty of articles accusing the Tories of having destroyed the NHSMoreover, if people are too short-sighted to understand the consequences of the illogical arguments they make, that is not my problem.Unsurprisingly, it seems like you are unable to refute my arguments. Your responses are futile and laughable.
(DIR) Post #AX9Zyg2j7oiMSCu9vE by atzanteol@techhub.social
2023-06-28T14:57:37Z
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@sue "force a pharmacist to provide this medicine to him for free"Who is forcing pharmacists to work for free?
(DIR) Post #AX9a6vQToaLGTqwqOG by sue@liberdon.com
2023-06-28T14:59:08Z
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@atzanteol The right to healthcare implies that. If you are a pharmacist and I am sick, then if I have the right to healthcare, it means that I can force you to provide me medicine for free. Otherwise, why call it a right?
(DIR) Post #AX9a9yOvD8OcZkflhY by atzanteol@techhub.social
2023-06-28T14:59:40Z
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@sue Hence your strawman. That's a conclusion you have made, not one that anyone is actually calling for.
(DIR) Post #AX9aBhnPv0ZFehxLEm by sue@liberdon.com
2023-06-28T14:59:58Z
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@atzanteol What do you mean by the right to healthcare then?
(DIR) Post #AX9aGei2p1gTWwnszA by atzanteol@techhub.social
2023-06-28T15:00:51Z
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@sue Perhaps you should figure that out before writing your next article attacking it?
(DIR) Post #AX9aMjNsM2YdlZGbOC by sue@liberdon.com
2023-06-28T15:01:57Z
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@atzanteol Yes, I'll figure it out by asking you what you mean, with you refusing to tell me what you mean because your definition necessitates the use of force to provide this "right to healthcare". Stop wasting my time and continue denying reality.