Post AX9LZ56JwH61HZUE9w by rysiek@mstdn.social
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 (DIR) Post #AX81GOouCu1ahGCAPA by privacat@dataprotection.social
       2023-06-27T18:38:19Z
       
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       So after wading into the debate yesterday based on an article written by @ploum (and posted by @dangillmor), and the larger #fedipact controversy, I decided to share a slightly more coherent version of my thoughts.  I still think unnecessary #gatekeeping and preemptive #bans suck and will cause a helluva lot more damage to the protocol than Meta likely will, but as always, hope others who differ in their thoughts will engage in some healthy debate, and not just resort to calling me a troll for having a different opinion than them.   https://careylening.substack.com/p/the-fediverse-metapocalypse-and-preemptive
       
 (DIR) Post #AX9EouM8xLNoucUGki by dpnash@mastodon.online
       2023-06-27T19:01:02Z
       
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       @privacat @ploum @dangillmor Yeah, I can't say I'm thrilled about this timeline:6 months ago - decided to try Mastodon, was totally fine with picking a server, but picked a largish one because I wasn't sure what small, tightly-focused server etiquette was (b/c, you know, *totally new user*)6 days ago - have to decide if I want to move again because a significant number of people I follow might be on instances that cut off the one I'm on b/c it *might* federate w/ whatever Meta cooks up
       
 (DIR) Post #AX9EovJhNv1PtKLpa4 by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
       2023-06-28T10:59:58Z
       
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       @dpnash @privacat @ploum @dangillmor I’d let this settle down before moving anywhere. A lot of people on those servers might move because they want to follow you…
       
 (DIR) Post #AX9LZ4MEhcEUydvQKO by rysiek@mstdn.social
       2023-06-28T12:08:27Z
       
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       @privacat @ploum @dangillmor for what its worth, I think this question:> Still, I think a block-first-ask-questions-later approach is a bad idea, and I wonder if it will do anything other than drive users away who aren’t interested in wading through these pitched battles.…is worth asking. But jumping to conclusions like:> [point of blocking Meta is] To ensure that only the ‘right people’ are part of the community. Screw the unwashed masses.…is not just unnecessary, but in fact hurtful.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX9LZ56JwH61HZUE9w by rysiek@mstdn.social
       2023-06-28T12:15:03Z
       
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       @privacat the question is about the realities of what defederation means in real, practical terms. This can be somewhat objectively argued about.The "gatekeeping" conclusion makes claims about intent of those making that decision. It's similar to how some (few!) on the "defederate Meta" side of this debate jump to a conclusion that any fedi admin that does not sign the Pact has to be "paid off" by Meta.Jumping to such conclusions only makes reasoned conversation hard.@ploum @dangillmor
       
 (DIR) Post #AX9nJANjKocBkApTpg by ploum@mamot.fr
       2023-06-28T17:25:28Z
       
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       @silverwizard @dangillmor @privacat @matthieu_xyz : I don’t appreciate the tone and I oppose against the "stop writing articles".Writing is the best thing people can do to put order in their ideas, to find their own flaws and discover, sometimes year later, their own contradiction (at least for myself)It seems that Carey and I have divergent views of the world but, so far, the debate has been mostly civilized and I really appreciate that she takes the time to write longer pieces.