Post AX8D3FSetHQ9M9HjFY by linebyline@bytetower.social
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(DIR) Post #AX89vfxAD6RZLBFcVE by tilvids@mstdn.social
2023-06-27T22:31:01Z
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This is great news. Between games nobody asked for, endless ads, and Shorts, hopefully users will finally be annoyed enough with #youtube to begin leaving the platform. 👋 Be sure to recommend your friends try out a #PeerTube instance like tilvids.com to experience a video community more reminiscent of how online video used to be. 💙 https://arstechnica.com/google/2023/06/youtube-playables-could-bring-facebook-style-casual-games-to-youtube/
(DIR) Post #AX8BjacAQvgHDTnKeO by vintprox@techhub.social
2023-06-27T22:51:13Z
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LOL, they want to make #YouTube an another VK or Odnoklassniki with "playables"! 😆😂 I don't want no shit in my video platform (and certainly don't want it to be another #RuTube.)More the reason to invite people to @tilvids and other #PeerTube instances.And if you have high resolution videos that you want to preserve quality of, manually upload them to #Odysee.
(DIR) Post #AX8Bz1f69derRhWgaG by tilvids@mstdn.social
2023-06-27T22:54:02Z
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@vintprox This is what happens when a service becomes so large that it no longer cares about its user base. If YouTube didn't have an unlimited money-line coming in from their ad-business, and actually had to sell a product that users want, they'd be out of business within a month.
(DIR) Post #AX8CiBAldl6hySs02q by MudMan@mas.to
2023-06-27T23:02:11Z
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@tilvids So in this scenario, where Twitter became a barely functioning cesspool overnight and kept most of its userbase, where Reddit users deployed actual collective action only to see usage bounce right back up...In this scenario Youtube, which is ten times bigger than either of those, unravels because they add... casual videogames.I really like this place, but man, the perception of scale and human behavior gets weird around here sometimes.
(DIR) Post #AX8CtZJiDFks2eU70K by tilvids@mstdn.social
2023-06-27T23:04:16Z
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@MudMan Are you counting for the massive population of bots that constitutes Twitter's new "community"?Reddit is TBD. Wait until mobile apps stop functioning in a week or so.
(DIR) Post #AX8D3FSetHQ9M9HjFY by linebyline@bytetower.social
2023-06-27T23:05:59Z
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@tilvids Honest question: Where do I recommend people *go*? Don't get me wrong, I love TILvids, but you're pretty niche. I'm a geek, totally sold on the idea of the fediverse, and I still find it hard to find anything (else) to watch on #PeerTube. How can I tell my Mom to use it instead of YouTube to watch quilting videos?Plus, hosting HD video at scale is so expensive, it's no wonder most instances don't even allow signups. Not to complain; I really hope there's a solution. But what?
(DIR) Post #AX8DEORpooLGPhDKOu by MudMan@mas.to
2023-06-27T23:08:01Z
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@tilvids Fair enough, let's cut Twitter in half, assuming that 50% of them are bots.Now it's only five times larger than the Fediverse, assuming the Fediverse has zero bots. We're almost there.Twitter sucks. I left. Best guess maybe 20 million people did. That's a lot, but it still leaves behind many more. And that's the absolute extreme. Twitter was tiny on the big picture and it crapped the bed SUPER hard. The hardest.Youtube is adding games, maybe. Different scales is what I'm saying.
(DIR) Post #AX8DXkI4pfYVevsTnE by tilvids@mstdn.social
2023-06-27T23:11:31Z
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@MudMan I hear what you're saying. Adding games nobody asked for is not going to be the end of YouTube on its own. But many of these ecosystems die a death by 1,000 paper-cuts, most of them self-inflicted because they stopped listening to their users and started chasing money.Google is going to continue trying to grow YouTube larger and larger because they are a corporation chasing profit. Inevitably, that means they will grow it into something people don't want, and that has repercussions.
(DIR) Post #AX8DmxuIUNRUEY0omu by MudMan@mas.to
2023-06-27T23:14:15Z
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@tilvids I may be too cynical here, but the big lesson of recent times is that once one of these gets critical mass it's very sticky. We all remember the sudden deaths of the old proto social networks in the vein of Geocities and MySpace, but those got killed by better versions of themselves that solved technical problems or gave huge freebies.These days people have actual financial ties to these sites, network effects and parasocial relationships. They're not collapsing anymore.
(DIR) Post #AX8E17a7JezaIDK6EK by tilvids@mstdn.social
2023-06-27T23:16:50Z
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@linebyline Perfectly valid question, to a problem we're all still trying to figure out.TILvids is niche specifically so we don't have to become a generalized video community, and this is what I recommend all instances do. The reality of the situation is that a federated YouTube replacement won't come from a single instance, but rather the totality of instances that make up the federated video space.We need a handful of niche instances that band together into a YouTube "replacement".
(DIR) Post #AX8EgmD3AQJYAfOeO0 by tilvids@mstdn.social
2023-06-27T23:24:19Z
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@MudMan Again, we shall see. Facebook has been experiencing a decline of both user growth and time-on-site over the last few years.As you said, these are massive sites, and their death won't happen due to a sudden collapse (well, maybe, we'll see about Twitter under Musk...) However the same network effects that allowed them to grow can also lead to attrition, because as their friends stop using the site, they will leave as well, all of it leading to a reverse-compounding effect.
(DIR) Post #AX8FM8mU9S8w33h9ai by MudMan@mas.to
2023-06-27T23:31:49Z
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@tilvids "A decline of user growth" is doing a lot of work to avoid acknowledging that they're still growing. And, for the record, the sources I see online show a rebound in those metrics this year.In fact, they seem to have just broken 3bn MAUs. Three billion. That's absurd. "We shall see" may require a lot of staring until we wait for give or take half of friggin' humanity to stop using it.I mean, they suck. They're the worst. Three. Billion. MAUs. That's a lot of attrition left to go.
(DIR) Post #AX8FuZe8lz31DRD8Uq by linebyline@bytetower.social
2023-06-27T23:38:02Z
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@tilvids Not a bad idea! But it does leave unsolved the problem of where a non-niche video-maker should go. But the more I think of it, the more I think most people making video on the internet succeed by finding a niche. And there are some general-purpose instances out there. So maybe not as big a deal as I'm inclined to think.There's still the problem of getting would-be PeerTubers *paid* but I'm not too proud to admit I have nothing useful to contribute to that conversation.
(DIR) Post #AX8IBefJZ8Ijc425DM by jeena@toot.jeena.net
2023-06-28T00:03:33Z
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@tilvids Netflix also added games for some reason, so I guess they just copy each other or something. I wonder what % of the users even try it out. I didn't because I assume that you need some kind of controller connected to your TV but who knows? I may never find out 😂
(DIR) Post #AX8kXfGApjIiXnYZ6W by tilvids@mstdn.social
2023-06-28T05:21:17Z
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@linebyline My opinion only, but I'd like to see niche YouTubers band together and start their own niche instances. For example, creators making video content about food could start their own food-related instance. If you have 20 creators making food-related content, it then starts to get at the problem about how to monetize creators, because you can find an instance-sponsor (ex: Kellogg) and then split the revenue among the creators.It's really just cutting out YouTube as the middle-man.