Post AX5fPHO4cnTawWYQ9w by mdhughes@appdot.net
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 (DIR) Post #AX5fBBBQtU37eDuz7A by mdhughes@appdot.net
       2023-06-26T15:13:29Z
       
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       Any time I consider Common Lisp as a practical language, I read a little of #lisp in IRC, and there's a number of flaming psychopaths in there who dissuade me, just like they did back in the '90s.Language quality doesn't seem to be correlated with user quality at all. I could make examples, but obvs that's not nice either.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX5fBCHUoQUf3JlLCi by galdor@emacs.ch
       2023-06-26T17:37:02Z
       
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       @mdhughes I went through that too. As often in tech circles, it is only a toxic minority, but this one was particularly bad. Bad enough that it made me take a break from CL years ago. And even though I went back to CL recently, no way I'm touching this whole "community" thing again. I don't even bother with reporting bugs unless they affect me and I cannot work around them.Funny thing is that I talked with a couple CL developers who told me in private that they used the language but avoided social contact for the same reasons. Remember, you don't need a "community", it's fine to just interact privately with interesting people. You're not alone.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX5fPHO4cnTawWYQ9w by mdhughes@appdot.net
       2023-06-26T17:39:34Z
       
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       @galdor Yeah, happily I mostly use #Scheme which has a medium tolerable community; there's very nice people and some assholes and some people I just mute to avoid dealing with, but nobody's peak asshole in it.But it's useful to have new idea sources, people to bounce things off of when building anything new. So going completely community-less isn't great.