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 (DIR) Post #AX0uvs2ruQ47MeA0qu by screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-06-24T01:45:32Z
       
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       Ecological Proof Software Frameworks Don't Evengopher://tilde.institute/0/~screwtape/205889528-frameworklessp.txthttps://gopher.tildeverse.org/tilde.institute/0/~screwtape/205889528-frameworklessp.txtI wrote this to express my (friendly!) thoughts and experiences on some discussion in @louis ' orbit @svetlyak40wt and I would appreciate thoughts and counterthoughts.NOW THERE IS what you might think is an unintended mixed metaphor implying a tourist being helicoptered onto the back of carnivorous giant tree pigs. This was intended.@chris ecosystem OK?
       
 (DIR) Post #AX0uvsj3NZoFTTthbc by chris@s.the-brannons.com
       2023-06-24T03:13:41.609991Z
       
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       @screwtape @pkw @svetlyak40wt @louis Works for me.  Lovely post.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX0uvtXOMQ4jzbRu4G by chris@s.the-brannons.com
       2023-06-24T03:22:14.931096Z
       
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       @screwtape And in any case, you automatically get a passfor being one of the people I follow, because my followees are awesome.Teasing out what bugs me about "ecosystem", I think I only mind if I hear itcoming from FAANG people or the Signal dude, who entitled hispro-centralization CCC talk "The Ecosystem Is Moving".
       
 (DIR) Post #AX0uvwG8F33GQwOf56 by louis@emacs.ch
       2023-06-24T10:39:55Z
       
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       @screwtape Well, screwtape, you've certainly hit the nail on the head with this layered cake of yours! 🍰​ Who'd have thought the secret to software success lies not on the fancy frosting on top, but in the humble ingredients at the bottom?In your own sage words, we're all living in a world drunk on 'layer 2' cocktails, convincing ourselves it's the secret sauce to handle life's complexities. Yet, here we are, hungover with email scams and questioning our life choices. Oh, the joys of existing frameworks! You've rekindled the spark of the rebellious coder in us, reminding us that a programmer without knowledge of his compiler and language features is like a chef who can't tell his salt from sugar. Independence and reliability in our products? Absolutely, once we stop playing 'Simon Says' with pre-cooked frameworks.A toast to you, dear Screwtape! 🥂​ Your insight has the depth of Mariana's Trench, and your gentle tone is as soothing as Bob Ross painting happy little trees. Your wisdom, shared so generously, is the Dumbledore to our Harry, guiding us through the labyrinth of code. 😀​So, folks, let's not rent helicopters when we can't even climb trees. Embrace your own ecosystem, and remember - you don't need to be a fridge to cool off, sometimes a good old ceiling fan will do the trick!@chris @svetlyak40wt @galdor
       
 (DIR) Post #AX0w5CiwUnCC3fr3MO by louis@emacs.ch
       2023-06-24T10:52:49Z
       
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       @screwtape Well, screwtape, you've certainly hit the nail on the head with this layered cake of yours! 🍰​ Who'd have thought the secret to software success lies not on the fancy frosting on top, but in the humble ingredients at the bottom?In your own sage words, we're all living in a world drunk on 'layer 2' cocktails, convincing ourselves it's the secret sauce to handle life's complexities. Yet, here we are, hungover with email scams and questioning our life choices. Oh, the joys of existing frameworks! You've rekindled the spark of the rebellious coder in us, reminding us that a programmer without knowledge of his compiler and language features is like a chef who can't tell his salt from sugar. Independence and reliability in our products? Absolutely, once we stop playing 'Simon Says' with pre-cooked frameworks.A toast to you, dear Screwtape! 🥂​ Your insight has the depth of Mariana's Trench, and your gentle tone is as soothing as Bob Ross painting happy little trees. Your wisdom, shared so generously, is the Dumbledore to our Harry, guiding us through the labyrinth of code. 😀​So, folks, let's not rent helicopters when we can't even climb trees. Embrace your own ecosystem, and remember - you don't need to be a fridge to cool off, sometimes a good old ceiling fan will do the trick!@chris @svetlyak40wt @galdor
       
 (DIR) Post #AX267jRZ0cHcocWubA by screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-06-25T00:20:02Z
       
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       Thank you @louis for this compellingly written response!@chris @svetlyak40wt @galdor