Post AWzy2JOZEzHqdA74OO by webmink@meshed.cloud
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(DIR) Post #AWzy2JOZEzHqdA74OO by webmink@meshed.cloud
2023-06-23T23:35:03Z
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If a #standard gains the force of law in Europe, it is not entitled to copyright protection and must be freely available. Massive.https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2023-06/cp230110en.pdfWell done @carlmalamud - again.
(DIR) Post #AWzyIsV8U9la8w5JiK by webmink@meshed.cloud
2023-06-23T23:38:58Z
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Now we need to make sure you don't have to pay royalties to implement standards that gain the force of law either - how about it, @carlmalamud ?
(DIR) Post #AWzyVIaPKNVIWGTOpk by midgephoto@photog.social
2023-06-23T23:42:04Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud Logical.
(DIR) Post #AWzyhvtH1Mq7tWK1Ro by carlmalamud@official.resource.org
2023-06-23T23:43:05Z
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@webmink let’s win the first point first. It ain’t over until it’s over. Still need the judgment from the court.
(DIR) Post #AWzz7VF2iv24m1hHvs by farbel@mas.to
2023-06-23T23:50:41Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud Could you explain this to an ignorant person, please? What is a standard?
(DIR) Post #AWzzZibWdRF2KEfRIW by james@bne.social
2023-06-23T23:55:46Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud What does this mean for patents? If a patented thing is made into a standard (USB-C for phone chargers) then does it change anything with regard to the royalty payments?
(DIR) Post #AX0gqXMA0HIUOPkLw0 by webmink@meshed.cloud
2023-06-24T07:57:13Z
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@farbel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_standard
(DIR) Post #AX0h5lt6G6YPnwPzKy by revk@toot.me.uk
2023-06-24T08:01:26Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud I always thought it crazy that you have to comply with a law but have to pay to get the details. So I agree with this.Even those stupid no smoking sign laws (the signs were stupid, not the stopping smoking aspect) referenced A5 as defined by a British Standard (which therefore defined tolerances etc) which you have to pay to get.
(DIR) Post #AX0hhvodnKp5bGWps0 by gvlx@masto.pt
2023-06-24T08:10:05Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud The implications of this are huge.Could this mean the standards organizations will need to have a different business model?Most likely so.Will they change to something like #W3C or like #IETF?#ISO #IEEE #ECMA #ETSI
(DIR) Post #AX0puci4wMUnk51Qqu by blue_led@toot.kif.rocks
2023-06-24T09:42:09Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud This is just the AG opinion so far, not an actual court decision. The judges may still decide in a different way.
(DIR) Post #AX0qBzbx30WrgxRFKK by webmink@meshed.cloud
2023-06-24T09:45:20Z
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@blue_led Aware, and @carlmalamud is of course cautious. But no matter what happens the ESOs are now on notice.
(DIR) Post #AX0scAZl6UCz8T1T6G by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
2023-06-24T09:59:17Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud ATM its is "just" advice to the court. We will have to wait for the decision.
(DIR) Post #AX16xGIiPaI8Kb0DfE by Brendanjones@fosstodon.org
2023-06-24T12:53:10Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud for the ignorant, what are the implications of this? What are some examples of standards that are currently not freely available?
(DIR) Post #AX3Jako4Vt2M0FBe1A by doc@mastodon.social
2023-06-25T14:23:58Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud cool, so we can open source many ISO standards now?
(DIR) Post #AX3NfmvGTOKFpXCuGm by webmink@meshed.cloud
2023-06-25T15:09:40Z
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@docNo, this is just loosening the mortar ready to remove another brick from the wall.@carlmalamud
(DIR) Post #AX3On1ChsEVc6WNRKq by carlmalamud@official.resource.org
2023-06-25T15:22:19Z
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@webmink @doc I've been working on this wall for a while. Here's a 1992 attempt. https://public.resource.org/scribd/2571203.pdf
(DIR) Post #AX3PGqYG2lOJkngG8G by doc@mastodon.social
2023-06-25T15:27:43Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud when can we be sure that this is through and accepted? I’ve got some iso standards I don’t mind publishing 😅
(DIR) Post #AX3RTRDVkRvYqw6m5Q by webmink@meshed.cloud
2023-06-25T15:52:18Z
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@carlmalamudYeah, I'm following and have pretty much since you started. I am loosening the mortar in a different place (the impact of intentionally-placed SEPs) but appreciate your work.
(DIR) Post #AX3SpUtAsOXUZAg7zk by timbray@cosocial.ca
2023-06-25T16:07:32Z
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@webmink @carlmalamud SEP?
(DIR) Post #AX3WIIwseGpHnKq8m0 by webmink@meshed.cloud
2023-06-25T16:46:00Z
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@timbrayStandard-essential patents. https://the.webm.ink/seps-cut-both-ways@carlmalamud