Post AWxVPgm5CIKCoVzGWu by avajarvis@universeodon.com
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(DIR) Post #AWxVPYLuVidUh1gFcm by avajarvis@universeodon.com
2023-06-20T18:47:02Z
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Some facts about the missing #OceanGate #submarine from the #NewsNation folks (you can see clips on YouTube):1. The thing was jury-rigged together by the CEO because there are no submarines that go this deep available - and yes that is a very bad sign for the missing2. It has 7 redundant systems to bring the submersible to the surface, some of which work even if the power is cut. If they are bobbing on the surface, they will survive and be found by the rescue planes.3. Some of the work preparing the submersible for launch has to be done by the passengers when they are inside. If anyone fucks up even a little, they likely died instantly when the vessel went past a certain depth and thus imploded.4. Submarines are usually designed with multiple layers of redundant systems, and military subs will not go as deep as the submersible because everyone wants to live.5. The toilet onboard the Titan (name of the submersible) is a plastic bag.6. Look for Mr. Pogue's tales of the thing.
(DIR) Post #AWxVPZJ6xbzVedNWts by avajarvis@universeodon.com
2023-06-20T19:37:49Z
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By the by, if you want some horror:1. Go to OceanGate's YouTube to see what passengers are expected to do during dives, and do it right, or else everyone dies.2. Look at the OceanGate page on GlassDoor to see how well treated and paid its employees are.3. OceanGate's website features some interesting thoughts on how you don't need to check for potential mechanical failures so rigorously because among well-designed submarines mechanical failures are not a leading cause of accidents. For some reason.#submarine #OceanGate
(DIR) Post #AWxVPZv2gaKfYH7p1U by avajarvis@universeodon.com
2023-06-20T19:40:49Z
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Dear #OceanGate lawyer: RUN FOR THE HILLSI don't care how iron-tight you think the papers that you had the customers sign away their rights onRUN AWAY#submarine
(DIR) Post #AWxVPaUqXSyLLJsPpY by avajarvis@universeodon.com
2023-06-20T20:24:22Z
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Well, as signs go, this is pretty bad. 2018 whistleblower for #OceanGate was fired.Also TIL: carbon fiber can suddenly catastrophically fail. #submarine https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/20/a-whistleblower-raised-safety-concerns-about-oceangates-submersible-in-2018-then-he-was-fired/
(DIR) Post #AWxVPbHlba6Vn2lU5A by darkling@mstdn.social
2023-06-20T21:07:38Z
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@avajarvis “It’s obscenely safe, because they have all these regulations. But it also hasn’t innovated or grown—because they have all these regulations.”Aah, yes, the same kind of arguments you see from every gig economy "disrupter"."The regulations don't apply to us, and we can't do what we want if they are applied." Well, physics does still apply even if your lawyer argues the best they can, and every safety regulation is an institutional memory of something that went wrong.
(DIR) Post #AWxVPdooBhire6EtrU by jschrab@mastodon.social
2023-06-20T21:16:06Z
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@avajarvis @darkling Oh, that is WELL put: “Every safety regulation is an institutional memory of something that went wrong.”
(DIR) Post #AWxVPeEKeo8gvGBHe4 by avajarvis@universeodon.com
2023-06-22T16:50:00Z
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Debris field found near Titanic by deep sea robot, unknown if it's the #OceanGate #submarine yet. In any case, the air ran out, unfortunately.This is now a recovery mission, which at least means no rescuers are going to die on this one.https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/missing-submarine-titan-oceangate-expeditions-latest-debris-field/
(DIR) Post #AWxVPfATAedxpZNiGO by dredmorbius@toot.cat
2023-06-22T19:07:28Z
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@jschrab "Written in blood."If you've ever wondered about the odor of natural gas (the gas is natural, the odor is not), what's a memorial to the 300 souls of the New London School in Texas, 1937.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_London_School_explosion@avajarvis @darkling
(DIR) Post #AWxVPgm5CIKCoVzGWu by avajarvis@universeodon.com
2023-06-22T16:57:13Z
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I would like to point out that while no one trying to rescue the billionaires in the #OceanGate #submarine disaster are going to be criminally punished, not only are the #refugee ships not helped in Europe when they flounder, anyone trying to rescue the #migrants are now facing jailtime up to 20 years. FFS. #FreePia https://morningstaronline.co.uk/node/71822