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(DIR) Post #AWq2ZHa1TW5S0ju15s by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2023-06-19T04:43:45.028834Z
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Everyone complaining about Meta joining the Fediverse... Isn't that what you all wanted?
(DIR) Post #AWq4ncCVnuaFvZrqjY by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2023-06-19T05:08:44.986735Z
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"Oh, but we can't allow some big entity to just come in and force their server implementation on everyone else!"You already did that years ago.
(DIR) Post #AWq5cNbpoZjRRQv0cK by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2023-06-19T05:17:55.527018Z
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The Fediverse *is* the "Mastodon Network", no matter how everyone tries to deny it. We're all still suffering from design decisions made by then 21-year-old Eugen Rochko, high on his ego after graduating university. "GNU Social-compatible" my ass
(DIR) Post #AWq5q5tyRnISZpwUts by lelouchebag@shitposter.club
2023-06-19T05:20:26.118784Z
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@dwaltiz While it'll be annoying at first, it's still good in the sense that the fediverse is growing. Imagine if in the twitter days you could just swap moderators and keep posting. It's like that, even with normies everywhere. The worse meta could do is block your instance, in which case the based side of the network has more than enough users to keep you happy
(DIR) Post #AWq6blKkDrWIgaC6Ns by lelouchebag@shitposter.club
2023-06-19T05:29:02.704086Z
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@dwaltiz Also we already had our influx of cancer with poast :cirnoHeh:
(DIR) Post #AWqG1buSmYJGZhIkbI by histoire@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz
2023-06-19T07:14:30.834761Z
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@dwaltiz >Gniggers in charge of not getting immediately coopted
(DIR) Post #AWqHOU0mPfx0h4j5zk by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2023-06-19T07:29:52.684482Z
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@histoire GNU social had already been suffering from bitrot and lack of manpower by the time Mastodon appeared. That's why everyone welcomed it with open arms. It was new, fast, with a modern UI, nothing like the repurposed StatusNet we were used to. The creator seemed a little attention-whorish, but everyone ignored it because, hey, brand new Fedi software! We shouldn't criticise the new guy for trying, right?Yeah... Hindsight is 20/20.
(DIR) Post #AWqufulQ6ARIndqRBw by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T14:50:02Z
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@dwaltiz Most #Fediverse admins leading that crusade are power-hungry and envious, and mostly just mad that rich people not only exist but are going to have a major hand in the #Fediverse as well
(DIR) Post #AWquyaGcWrrkjSLBxI by Elliptica@poa.st
2023-06-19T14:53:25.711973Z
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@lelouchebag @dwaltiz The problem is that this will lead to homogenization across the network. They'll do things like use people with bigger names, people that most "normies" want to follow, onto meta servers. Smaller servers whose users want follow them will be forced to follow the rules of the bigger server, or risk getting banned. smaller networks get polarized and die in anonymity, while the "independent social networks" turn back into twitter and facebook and reddit...
(DIR) Post #AWqvMwF4ThqHpvEHBI by Deplorable_Degenerate@poa.st
2023-06-19T14:57:49.651540Z
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@dwaltiz We hunted the mammoth. To extinction.
(DIR) Post #AWqvkuUicxJXMlyksa by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
2023-06-19T15:02:05.818385Z
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@Elliptica @dwaltiz @lelouchebag "Mastodon is only used by Nazis and extremists" I can hear it now
(DIR) Post #AWqvw6WUFJ5hrE8xzE by abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in
2023-06-19T15:01:13.712608Z
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@realcaseyrollins @dwaltiz There is always going to be a majority that go with the flow and a minority that just go zig-zag. Flow of majority seldom affects the zig-zag folks. Look what Meta did to XMPP. It is still alive and continues to improve. Calling us power-hungry is self contradictory as we are calling for power sharing and not take over of the realm.
(DIR) Post #AWqvw7DNfpP00GDDqS by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T15:04:09Z
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@abhijith @dwaltiz I completely forgot what #Meta did to #XMPP TBH
(DIR) Post #AWqwLgFIZBiPtCIdO4 by jgreen@indieweb.social
2023-06-19T15:08:45Z
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@realcaseyrollins @dwaltiz I think perhaps there are some over generalizations here. Many folks are reacting emotionally because of the bad experiences they’ve had on mainstream social media. So they migrated to the fediverse to escape that negativity. They find a comfortable home here now to only have the possibility of Meta and its ilk bringing their dysfunctionalism. It’s like inviting a known polluter to set up shop next to your lakeside community.
(DIR) Post #AWqxAUMIWQzNn5nhcu by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T15:17:58Z
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@jgreen @dwaltiz There's a bit of that too, although I'm quite sure that this would be the perspective of the users, rather than the admins of #Fediverse instances
(DIR) Post #AWqxIi37VKgKZIkaXY by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
2023-06-19T14:46:28.156684Z
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So what about those using nostr or soapbox+ pleroma?
(DIR) Post #AWqxIjCNEPg68I5UbQ by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2023-06-19T15:19:25.642892Z
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@NonPlayableClown Soapbox is just a front end for Pleroma, forked from Gab, which in turn was forked from Mastodon.As for Pleroma itself, well... It had the potential to set things straight. It was written with ActivityPub in mind before the spec was even officially published, but initially federated only through OStatus (like Mastodon did). It had momentum, but then things slowed down and eventually... kinda stopped. Now it only seems to get updates whenever someone finds a new exploit.Don't get me wrong, I like Lain, he's a chill guy, very smart too, but it's painfully obvious he's not really the best fit for a project leader. Having to tard wrangle all the egos of Pleroma's dev team ("Wait, do we even have a team????") probably burned him out too.Nostr is completely different beast, and the only reason we even see its content here is because of a bridge that Alex Gleason made.
(DIR) Post #AWr09Yd1Sg18bds4ga by abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in
2023-06-19T15:50:20.336712Z
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@realcaseyrollins @dwaltiz Wow.. according to you, people who want everything centralized and under their control are not power hungry but those who demand power sharing are the hungry ones? So the Hitler is a nice chap but people fighting for democracy are power hungry?
(DIR) Post #AWr09ZRMRWHd7lQH9E by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T15:51:24Z
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@abhijith @dwaltiz What can I say, people who are hungry for power are actually hungry.You can be anti-authoritarian without throwing a tantrum because you don't have any power. It can be done! Have faith, friend.
(DIR) Post #AWr0IRKHypQWZ6LOU4 by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T15:53:01Z
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@abhijith @dwaltiz And I'm not saying that #Meta isn't power hungry btw, I'm just observing that they're not the only ones in this situation who are.You seem triggered; I'm guessing you're an admin?
(DIR) Post #AWr13FSRvMGvMmTt6O by abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in
2023-06-19T15:58:21.361096Z
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@realcaseyrollins @dwaltiz You just called a community of people who stand for federation "power hungry". Yes, I am triggered. "Have faith"? In what? Imaginary friends that people pray to? Prayers won't help in a fight against authority. Doing things help. Infact, religion is an authority one should fight against.
(DIR) Post #AWr13Gu8Xu0tqwRVtg by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T16:01:28Z
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@abhijith @dwaltiz You're going off the rails a bit here man; did you read my initial response? I'm specifically speaking to #Fediverse admins, not the users who are joining them in condemning #Meta's #Project92 / #Threads / #Barcelona project
(DIR) Post #AWr1dk2pgFPqeetsrA by abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in
2023-06-19T16:04:12.635436Z
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@realcaseyrollins @dwaltiz Where should these "users" join? One true server run by one true admin working for one true company built by one true rich man? Without admins, fediverse won't exist.
(DIR) Post #AWr1dlToLQaf6cWwXw by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T16:08:04Z
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@abhijith @dwaltiz Not sure how this addresses my point but okay I guess
(DIR) Post #AWr4D7FDcFROeRgnUO by webshinra@pouet.chapril.org
2023-06-19T16:35:50Z
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@realcaseyrollins @abhijith @dwaltiz Hi, please open an History book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
(DIR) Post #AWr5FfKDyXMassoIuO by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T16:48:32Z
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@webshinra @abhijith @dwaltiz I've read multiple history book already tbh, my complaint is completely disconnected from the whole "Embrace, extend, extinguish" thingy
(DIR) Post #AWr5TU6iToly9A57Kq by webshinra@pouet.chapril.org
2023-06-19T16:50:59Z
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@realcaseyrollins @abhijith @dwaltiz As it's the heart of the admin arguments and the real danger here, the fact you point a power hungriness is missing the elephant in the room, and sound like an attribution bias, IMAO.
(DIR) Post #AWr5wAB7eckmjhok3E by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T16:56:13Z
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@webshinra @abhijith @dwaltiz I mean, considering that many of the admins have participated in the "embrace, extend, extinguish" cycle that characterized the rise of #Mastodon in the #Fediverse, it's apt to say that it's at least hypocritical to complain about #Meta doing the exact same thing
(DIR) Post #AWr6dvJQHsPVN5ZB9E by webshinra@pouet.chapril.org
2023-06-19T17:03:32Z
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@realcaseyrollins @abhijith @dwaltiz Coopetition is a normal process in free (as in free speech) software. It only work sanely with other free software, as majoritarian adoption of closed tool lead to monopoly and destroy the users freedom to choose.Admins are diverse and humans, it's pretty sure some have hideous power hungryness, but it's a very strange default assumption to make to such a diversity of legal status and people.
(DIR) Post #AWr6y5lJ93RZZYE69g by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T17:07:46Z
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@webshinra @abhijith @dwaltiz I think you overestimate both how diverse #Fediverse admins are, and how many admins I was actually talking about.I agree with you on all other points though.
(DIR) Post #AWr880HiSqEVR1fvay by webshinra@pouet.chapril.org
2023-06-19T17:20:20Z
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@realcaseyrollins @abhijith @dwaltiz I see the Fediverse moslty from the french-speaking point of view, and can't tell much about the english speaking ecosystem as I see it only from the outside. from where I stand, I can say that many (chapril is one on them) are voluntary under a 1911 law explicitly forbidding to make profit.Asian instance I don't have many information about, but as a global phenomena, we can't have a uniform admin profile other than «competent enough system administrator»
(DIR) Post #AWr9Uf3heEt6DaULzs by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T17:36:04Z
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@webshinra @abhijith @dwaltiz The #Fediverse admins I'm talking about, for the most part tend to be white, neurodivergent, and big fans of policing others (see #fediblock and #fediblockmeta); the less neurotic ones are even part of #Fedipact but their grievances don't lie in a lack of power on their end, but rather a fear that #Meta might abuse their power. The two aren't exactly synonymous.
(DIR) Post #AWrSxsEbdbO2bqEPrM by webshinra@pouet.chapril.org
2023-06-19T21:01:22Z
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@realcaseyrollins @abhijith @dwaltiz Ok, I think see what you mean, and if I get it, it's the reason why I leave mastodon after a year in 2016, because I was too incompatible with the specific social codes of marginality required by the community at the time. (And had bad boostrap?).I think the expansion of the fediverse is what make me happy here now?The racial bias is there, I don't know if (for France) it's more important in masto admin than in tech in general, but it's clearly there.
(DIR) Post #AWrSxu7EdygARYnYeG by webshinra@pouet.chapril.org
2023-06-19T21:04:33Z
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@realcaseyrollins @abhijith @dwaltiz (please notice that I would not say it that way in my mother-tongue, where the subject is important to me personally, and than I may be awkward in english as I'm a lot more imprecise semantically)
(DIR) Post #AWrTA7TkmlUJMc9jLU by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-19T21:16:27Z
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@webshinra @abhijith @dwaltiz No worries! I think I understand you well enough, and there's some truth to what you're saying here. Although I don't remember what the #Fediverse was like in 2016 because I didn't join until #Gab did, in 2019
(DIR) Post #AWtQ6TbafQ0rHbJRa4 by PurpCat@marsey.moe
2023-06-20T19:51:37.800777Z
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@Elliptica @dwaltiz @lelouchebag which is literally what happened after mastodon btw, "muh eee" when that happened to activitypub and os.
(DIR) Post #AWtQHZkaA00FWioL7A by PurpCat@marsey.moe
2023-06-20T19:53:37.576843Z
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@dwaltiz it's not like anyone will replace AP because they'll get into flamewars like that of Pleroma VS Gleason
(DIR) Post #AWtR2NoUMLRg7CxR6O by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2023-06-20T20:02:03.638112Z
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@PurpCat "Pleroma VS Gleason" had more to do with egos clashing than the standard itself.
(DIR) Post #AWtRQ4nYhyYW5iow6K by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-06-20T20:05:53.041834Z
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@dwaltiz no. If I wanted to talk to people on Facebook, I'd join the fucking Facebook.
(DIR) Post #AWtSD4SgkSzJEkQALo by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-06-20T20:14:50.279798Z
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@dwaltiz @NonPlayableClown >Having to tard wrangle all the egos of Pleroma's dev team ("Wait, do we even have a team????") probably burned him out too.This is true for any development team.Source: used to tard wrangle a dev team :akkounamused:
(DIR) Post #AWtSQJWI4eh1hfQ8Rs by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-06-20T20:17:37.318527Z
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Also had plenty of experience tard wrangling in general on stereophonic.space until I upset one too many troons.
(DIR) Post #AWtTAIpgxdE6tRQO0W by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-06-20T20:25:16.278017Z
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@elicin dude.. you're tard who had to be wrangled
(DIR) Post #AWtTTnxzQjEMxHbaIC by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-06-20T20:29:27.642996Z
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There was honestly nothing wrong with what happened until a pair of reactionists saw the post and began t kick up shit by calling me stupid and sending death threats lmao. The thread had ended two days prior on good terms with the person I was originally engaging with that was appreciative of the stimulating conversation. That's why I was being so dismissive initially as anyone with two brain cells to rub together can clearly see they were looking to cause trouble by necroing an old thread with a fair bit of inactivity.
(DIR) Post #AWtTc1PZKIjKyDQIRk by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-06-20T20:30:29.685856Z
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@elicin it wasn't just that one thread
(DIR) Post #AWtU6dj1RQ38UB7dHE by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-06-20T20:36:28.910227Z
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I’ve weighed in on a couple but that was the first where it got pretty abusive. Until that point, I was politely disagreeing which shouldn’t have been a point of concern for you. Especially since you platform a lowkey antisemite that posts about how circumcision makes people (primarily Jewish men) mentally disabled sexual assault victims.Pick a lane, do you allow freedom of speech short of hate crimes or targeting minorities or do you only allow limited speech based on what you find to be palatable?
(DIR) Post #AWtV7kFYleWCxwQr7A by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-06-20T20:47:21.019977Z
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I’ve weighed in on a couple of occasions, however, that was the first where it got pretty abusive and out of hand. Until that point, I was simply in polite disagreement on something which shouldn’t have been a point of concern for you. Especially since you platform a lowkey anti-semite that posts about how circumcision makes people (primarily Jewish men) mentally disabled sexual assault victims.Pick a lane, do you allow freedom of speech short of hate crimes and the targeted harassment of minorities or do you only allow a limited range of speech based on what you find to be palatable?
(DIR) Post #AWtXenT21hqkPOcbRo by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-06-20T21:16:16.114911Z
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There was honestly nothing wrong with what happened until a pair of reactionists saw the post and began to kick up shit by calling me stupid and sending death threats lmao. The thread had ended two days prior on good terms with the person I was originally engaging with that was appreciative of the stimulating conversation.That’s why I was being so dismissive initially as anyone with two brain cells to rub together can clearly see they were looking to cause trouble by necroing an old thread with a fair bit of inactivity.Edit: Previous post was accidentally deleted.
(DIR) Post #AWtcNaFCR5yqFIlNei by sim@shitposter.club
2023-06-20T22:09:10.222822Z
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@PurpCat @dwaltiz @Elliptica @lelouchebag This is true, mastodon adopted activitypub and wanted to drop ostatus. It took a bit longer but eventually pleroma dropped support for ostatus when the main instances had either migrated to activitypub by changing software or died. Although some GNUSocial instances were left behind, not sure how active they were or continue to be now.
(DIR) Post #AWtcjdKncvhuCWtefg by PurpCat@marsey.moe
2023-06-20T22:13:09.608447Z
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GS even though it's a buggy bitrotted piece of shit has a AP plugin bundled now. That's also the moment Pleroma dropped it too.
(DIR) Post #AWtdYl0spxKomjxVjc by sim@shitposter.club
2023-06-20T22:22:24.010429Z
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@PurpCat @dwaltiz @Elliptica @lelouchebag On saying this, I still don't know what happened to RDN... I'd like to think they are still in ostatus space, continuing on as they were even before my time.
(DIR) Post #AWtfPybN95lgEOy0o4 by PurpCat@marsey.moe
2023-06-20T22:43:13.496968Z
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@sim @dwaltiz @Elliptica @lelouchebag rdn?
(DIR) Post #AWtfkxCtWiDfzEWKmG by sim@shitposter.club
2023-06-20T22:47:00.839325Z
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@PurpCat @dwaltiz @Elliptica @lelouchebag Rainbow Dash Net.
(DIR) Post #AWtfstQ1Ul3iYQRlY0 by PurpCat@marsey.moe
2023-06-20T22:48:27.226863Z
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@sim @dwaltiz @Elliptica @lelouchebag somehow yeshttp://rainbowdash.net/
(DIR) Post #AWtfxWxGRVBAKdCrho by sim@shitposter.club
2023-06-20T22:49:17.154959Z
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@PurpCat @dwaltiz @Elliptica @lelouchebag That's great to hear.
(DIR) Post #AWtgTw6yRjetcWCUG8 by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-20T22:55:06.466765Z
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@elicin @newt #itsover
(DIR) Post #AWtjaEqvymGZLTOX5M by Elliptica@poa.st
2023-06-20T23:29:54.339581Z
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@newt @dwaltiz @NonPlayableClown This seems to be the biggest issue with anything that's independent and mostly open. Not enough people to get everything needed done, constantly chasing flaws, egos that eventually split the team, and a user base that's more interested in constantly changes to the "hot new thing", than sticking with a single thing.
(DIR) Post #AXQn8tI4vibmoxwbU8 by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-07-06T22:14:10.275655Z
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It is well and truly is over now.
(DIR) Post #AXQnFm2aHcvkMYyl7I by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-07-06T22:14:39.949435Z
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@elicin were so back anni bros :dubs:
(DIR) Post #AXQngRx74xKdsZ8kDo by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-07-06T22:19:05.917856Z
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Suppose you could say I got annihilated off my last instance. :hehe:
(DIR) Post #AXQnoFCONdXmdp0Gau by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-07-06T22:20:18.581711Z
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@elicin "it is what it is man, if you block us we dont care, live in your little bubble. The annihilation is coming and you cant stop it" :dude_smug:
(DIR) Post #AXQoJzfrdUTBl7val6 by elicin@annihilation.social
2023-07-06T22:24:46.851085Z
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In the end, we'll all get annihilated only to end up in a white void, naked as the day we were born to stand before god in judgment.