Post AWtNlDstioeKXI96DA by huly@mastodon.social
 (DIR) More posts by huly@mastodon.social
 (DIR) Post #AWtNlDstioeKXI96DA by huly@mastodon.social
       2023-06-20T17:28:00Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       I am sorry to bother you @jon, but what the 🦆 does the telegraph think this looks like and why it is a good idea?
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtNlEgsiydF2JX17Y by Alon@mastodon.social
       2023-06-20T19:23:21Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @huly @jon What's he doing now? I hope "about turn" means "sending every Leclerc to Ukraine on the grounds that the French Army isn't even bringing them to its forever wars in Africa" but somehow I'm afraid it means "Scholz is Europe's most pro-Ukraine leader now fml."
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtNlFPu1ae1HwayIK by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2023-06-20T19:24:59.016603Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Alon @huly @jon he reportedly supported fast nato membership for ukraine(on which he cannot possibly deliver given the state of things with sweden now, anyway)
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtQwxm3kFrBuNEkfQ by Alon@mastodon.social
       2023-06-20T19:57:24Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pony @jon @huly Broke: EU army for EU unityWoke: EU army for better procurement at scaleBespoke: EU army so that Erdoğan doesn't get a veto
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtQwyakhmPGRaxEgK by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2023-06-20T20:00:47.654422Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Alon @jon @huly i don't see how this is working, the premise of everyone going to war for the member country would be extremely weakened if the member is accepted by only majority and not unanimously
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtSG9oFK2ikguyZyC by DiegoBeghin@masto.bike
       2023-06-20T20:08:24Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pony @jon @Alon @huly You do need unanimity to join the EU
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtSGAV8kZ22px2ppQ by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2023-06-20T20:15:01.945931Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @DiegoBeghin @Alon common defense would probably require most countries to sign new treaties, it probably wouldn't be justifiable to stretch common custom policy to a defense pact
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtShYAGsVGE2wL92e by DiegoBeghin@masto.bike
       2023-06-20T20:18:18Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pony @Alon There's already article 42 of the treaties.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtShi61x7oIqgQtou by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2023-06-20T20:20:14.505303Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @DiegoBeghin @Alon that's pretty weak though
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtU8Uek89xQwD0L4a by huly@mastodon.social
       2023-06-20T20:33:31Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pony @DiegoBeghin @Alon TEU Art 42.7 already exists
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtU8VSj8JwLREOFyy by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2023-06-20T20:36:31.727934Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @huly @DiegoBeghin @Alon i don't really understand the art 51 reference, that's an article about kinda nothing?
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtUPF3ROGTVTOXigC by huly@mastodon.social
       2023-06-20T20:38:34Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pony @DiegoBeghin @Alon UN Charter:
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtUPG5xWO5EhUjFFA by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2023-06-20T20:39:26.946698Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @huly @DiegoBeghin @Alon yeah i know but like that basically only says you can shoot back without having to ask the un first, who needs this article anyway
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtUsqv5geiNJAkyZ6 by huly@mastodon.social
       2023-06-20T20:42:21Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @pony @DiegoBeghin @Alon It is the exception to the outlawing of any violence between countries not sanctioned by the UN. Now we all know that doesn't exist in state practice as it does on paper but you still need to make that clear
       
 (DIR) Post #AWtUsrYnJ2TRIJKgS0 by pony@blovice.bahnhof.cz
       2023-06-20T20:43:31.520994Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @huly @DiegoBeghin @Alon tbh when i see a defense policy quoting un, i probably start feeling less safe and protected