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(DIR) Post #AWqm13Xjkl86WQS1FQ by stux@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:12:44Z

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It’s kinda sad to see people think I’m ’bribed’ by Meta.. I have not signed anything, I did not attend anything from them nor did I accept anything but still the worst is assumed when I don’t agree on blocking a still in development project that we don’t even know the (domain)name from right awayI don’t have any love for Meta or any of such companies whatsoever, that’s why I’m putting all I have in these platforms and guard it with my life so don’t expect Meta to get a ‘free pass’ on anything

(DIR) Post #AWqmB2opIjbBAgCuK8 by tursiops@tooting.ch
2023-06-19T13:14:36Z

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@stux I totally support you I&#39;ve taken a similar approach and people on my instance has take it very well.

(DIR) Post #AWqmEeGAYKyOA3iOP2 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:15:02Z

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@stux You&#39;re not brobed, but I do consider it naive to not expect Meta&#39;s BS from Meta&#39;s platforms. Tjey&#39;re going to use us to springboard. Then defederate. It&#39;s what happened with #xmppI don&#39;t think it&#39;s a good idea to let that happen.

(DIR) Post #AWqmH5XQ6VUfLHwnku by Beatlesandworms@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:15:19Z

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@stux I find your stance ridiculously reasonable. I have really enjoyed the environment you foster here, and I expect you will continue to provide a social, safe place for people like me in the future.So much fuss over things that haven&#39;t even happened yet, my goodness.

(DIR) Post #AWqmJ4KDaJ1A9xiUkq by mingo@oldbytes.space
2023-06-19T13:15:29Z

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@stux it&#39;s sad you had to say anything on this, but it&#39;s good that you did &lt;3

(DIR) Post #AWqmKLGO5ttUyxX3Fg by hammoncr@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:15:39Z

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@stux you’re the only one in my feed who is being mature at all about this whole thing, i genuinely appreciate you as my server admin

(DIR) Post #AWqmLSlzetAsYxqlay by broximar@masto.ai
2023-06-19T13:15:49Z

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@stux sorry you’re going through this. But, it is far better to be having the discussions now on how to prepare than being blindsided when things go sideways after they arrive.

(DIR) Post #AWqmMXfawCrm2WN6QK by stux@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:15:59Z

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@scirave I totally feel this and that&#39;s why i will be read with the &quot;block button&quot; the day they join and with the first sight of things going wrong

(DIR) Post #AWqmOrR2QEmhv4fVj6 by LikeItOrLumpIt@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:16:26Z

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@stux Seems like guarding something with your life would include vowing to block known enemies. But that&#39;s just me, I guess.

(DIR) Post #AWqmRiwMSi0iRTgWci by snooze_cat@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:17:43Z

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@stux Sorry to hear it. People have become very cynical and afraid to trust in anyone&#39;s ethics or goodwill. We do know Zuckerberg has done some deeply dirty deeds. I sure never want to put another dime in his pockets.

(DIR) Post #AWqmXgq7BYrTfFblFw by rodti@mas.to
2023-06-19T13:18:41Z

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@stux ❤️❤️❤️

(DIR) Post #AWqmbP9CuEnNx4JFwm by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:19:28Z

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@stux I&#39;m just worried they&#39;ll slow burn this by acting amicable, gain a sizable userbase, leave, and then abuse em. This whole situation is making me antsy...I can&#39;t really think of any reason why a corporation like FB would do this otherwise, which is why I completely understand people preblocking.

(DIR) Post #AWqmgBYcrR0RFcTjf6 by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:20:17Z

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@stux @scirave when things going wrong then our data will already be harvested so it&#39;s too late

(DIR) Post #AWqmnOLzgPV8xt0SX2 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:21:44Z

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@fosserytech @stux It&#39;s already harvested (or you might as well consider ot as that). It&#39;s public info, they are allowed to crawl it.

(DIR) Post #AWqmssrdfopv2UQX3o by serklarvel@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T13:22:33Z

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@stux it&#39;s awful seeing some people accusing you of taking bribes. It almost make me lose hope in this social media.

(DIR) Post #AWqnAORzUPbPvQmNrE by GrandUpperEX@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:25:45Z

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@stux As long as defederating from them isn&#39;t off the table i&#39;m happy for you to take a wait and see approach.As a queer person the amount of hate i have seen on their platforms &amp; twitter is crazy and since coming to &amp; making fedi my primary social media i haven&#39;t seen or experienced any hate, i would definitely like to keep it that way.

(DIR) Post #AWqnKkoBDaoiAA6AZk by thisisfilber7@mas.to
2023-06-19T13:27:36Z

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@stux You are just trying to be positive and nothing is wrong with that.I had the same thought at first when Meta tried to get connected with ActivityPub, but after I saw what&#39;s going on with WhatsApp, I realized that positive outcome would just be a dream. Launching features to &quot;increase the privacy level&quot;, while users&#39; safety, promised by them after collecting metadata, is yet to be ensured and the platforms remain silent when questioned by victims of scams.

(DIR) Post #AWqnTDKD4tn0vF79FY by solarbear@fosstodon.org
2023-06-19T13:29:04Z

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@stuxI&#39;m not on your instance, but I&#39;ve always respected you a lot. Try not to let the paranoid harassers get to you. People who know your character will trust you to make the right call when the time comes.

(DIR) Post #AWqnapfothWtswr4Sm by dgold@octodon.social
2023-06-19T13:30:14Z

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@stux wow.what a way to centre yourself entirely in the conversation around the utterly misguided assault you launched on another admin and her instance.after all, it’s all about you, isn’t it?

(DIR) Post #AWqnr8vj4NyIF34Y7M by CadeJohnson@toot.cat
2023-06-19T13:32:04Z

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@stux I think it is worth considering how a federation with #Meta might play out. There are various ways that Meta could &quot;support&quot; and &quot;improve&quot; the fediverse with money - accelerating OS software development and supporting instance-owners with stipends, for example.Because the ultimate objective of Meta is profit, any seemingly well-intentioned and egalitarian benefits MUST be turned to the interest of Meta sooner or later - driving out resistant instances with software bloat, creating bandwidth requirements an average instance-of-today cannot manage, and introducing other &quot;market forces&quot; that I am unequipped to visualize.Eventually Meta will posit that REVENUE is essential for sustainability, and with the centralization of revenue, there will be profit and loss. There IS no other endpoint for that path. Well, maybe? If there is another endpoint, how would it unfold? I&#39;d like to learn.#Project92

(DIR) Post #AWqo344Sxf40e9qSq8 by pitd@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:35:31Z

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@stux just sent you my bribe. Keep up the good work.

(DIR) Post #AWqo47WNcR0vdYPAsC by webhat@infosec.exchange
2023-06-19T13:35:36Z

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@stux never thought you were bribed. I just thought Meta was being intentionally obtuse

(DIR) Post #AWqoCS8UrE6NtCCtvM by givlucas@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T13:37:18Z

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@stux its not something you will see coming. It will be a slow cancer. These large companies gain nothing by joining projects like this. They are leeches and should be stomped out before they propagate. By the time its over itll be to late to &quot;kick them out&quot;

(DIR) Post #AWqoDGlYcH3WuornkW by bhawthorne@infosec.exchange
2023-06-19T13:37:19Z

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@stux @Skepticat Not to be a conspiracy theorist (well okay, maybe a little), but I do wonder who is fanning all the flames of dissension and discontent among otherwise reasonable citizens of the fediverse.

(DIR) Post #AWqoc9xd3UXH35NjHs by viel_zu_negativ@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:41:50Z

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@stux I for my part don&#39;t think that at all, I just got the impression from your other statement that you&#39;re underestimating the danger of what&#39;s happening.

(DIR) Post #AWqomJgjk9MI78K8QK by neonbubble@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:43:44Z

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@stux I support your position fully. We&#39;ve all got to wait and see what happens. There are some of us who are looking forward to seeing what Meta can bring in a positive way; some of us who&#39;d like an easier way to connect to friends and family for whom the Fediverse is a nerdy club they won&#39;t entertain. The kneejerk reaction from so many against a big company embracing an open protocol seems to fly in the face of what it&#39;s supposed to represent.

(DIR) Post #AWqonqrfsbYTIZAiA4 by crossdavidl@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:43:52Z

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@stux I think some folks are just scared to see Meta take away this oasis. I know the thought makes me nervous. But I trust you in as much as I know you and I trust the resilience of the Mastodon project.I also trust that Meta will likely get bored with this project and abandon it for easy money selling propaganda. 😁

(DIR) Post #AWqpBEREOry34Rx4Fs by claudegohier@mastodon.xyz
2023-06-19T13:48:24Z

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@fosserytech @stux @scirave They can already harvest all the data they want from the fediverse.

(DIR) Post #AWqpH2xG0ZUVC1hj9c by surak@mastodon.gnomos.org
2023-06-19T13:49:15Z

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@stux People immediately questioning your integrity after all the work you put here makes me really sad. It&#39;s just offensive.I&#39;m sure that&#39;s the kind of people I don&#39;t want to interact with 🤷

(DIR) Post #AWqpIEYKNBWFS8brZQ by demvoter@masto.ai
2023-06-19T13:49:31Z

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@stux The loudest in the room aren&#39;t always correct. You have a lot of support from people who actually want to see the Fediverse grow.

(DIR) Post #AWqpMsGudkiHnWg1PU by tokyo_0@mas.to
2023-06-19T13:50:21Z

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@stux Why did you instantly defederate a whole instance? (or is that not what happened?)

(DIR) Post #AWqpPtUWYviIRtU25Y by tokyo_0@mas.to
2023-06-19T13:50:48Z

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@stux Why did you instantly defederate a whole instance? (or is that not what happened?)@mastodonmigration

(DIR) Post #AWqpgduHl5572NWGLw by socprof@masto.ai
2023-06-19T13:53:57Z

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@stux Hang in there, man. The fact that you have so many successful instances all over the fediverse speaks to how much people appreciate the way you admin them.

(DIR) Post #AWqpgyAcQ41vspJaaW by 0xDEADBEEF@fosstodon.org
2023-06-19T13:54:08Z

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@fosserytechThey don&#39;t need their own instance to harvest your data.@stux @scirave

(DIR) Post #AWqpok3WmQkoQPhjSC by ctrlaltpeace@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:55:25Z

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@stux I feel bad for you rn trying to fight off any misinformation flying around mastodon.

(DIR) Post #AWqpxWAPmvUxxJ6uiO by ratwerks@hachyderm.io
2023-06-19T13:56:52Z

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@stux Entirely reasonable and the correct approach.All you catastrophizing haters: y&#39;all are why we can&#39;t have nice things. Please stop pitchforking people on our side working on complicated issues.#iStandWithStux

(DIR) Post #AWqq3smec2C5q0211E by CynthesisToday@sfba.social
2023-06-19T13:58:07Z

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@stux Thank you for all you do and the passion you bring to the environment. FWIW, I don&#39;t believe you are bribed.&quot;Default deny&quot; is an excellent security stance. Allow the time to develop an ecosystem service for metering the number of connections per unit time a new instance connecting to the Fediverse can start with. Sort of a reverse TCP retransmission congestion avoidance mechanism. Another ecosystem service might be detecting siphoning content.Default deny allows some human time for response.

(DIR) Post #AWqqCI2yZHoqVUfuIC by VoxofGod@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T13:59:39Z

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@stux I wouldn&#39;t say bribed, but anyone saying zuk deserves (ANOTHER) chance is extremely sus at best

(DIR) Post #AWqqSrIPHVO6SknEQa by Athavariel@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-19T14:02:32Z

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@stux well said - why not wait and see? Blocking is anytime possible.

(DIR) Post #AWqqk1QKsZwMnSgaVU by 60pencilgirl@mstdn.ca
2023-06-19T14:04:26Z

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@stux Instances are starting to fight amongst each other ... Meta is already succeeding.Divide to conquer.

(DIR) Post #AWqqtt3opPZJkqrFNQ by FreeTheColorado@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:07:31Z

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@stux I trust your judgment @stux I appreciate your hard work and sense of fairness.

(DIR) Post #AWqr3VbmsSsBunKn4K by DLROhlms@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:09:19Z

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@stux Yes. Thank you.

(DIR) Post #AWqrIW2tXB97cBAZRA by gsuberland@chaos.social
2023-06-19T14:11:52Z

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@stux @scirave The existential threat comes from a process that isn&#39;t solved by blocking at &quot;the first sight of things going wrong&quot;. In fact that&#39;s precisely the reaction they&#39;re hoping for.They only start the really sketchy stuff once they&#39;re an entrenched incumbent with majority control over key areas of development and a critical mass audience. By the time that happens, defederating destroys the communities you support, making it untenable.How do you plan to resolve this?

(DIR) Post #AWqrPyD9DLrMzlWHYm by MaryAliciaZiff@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-19T14:13:21Z

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@stux You don&#39;t need to explain your thinking or reasoning. 🤷You could provide a link to a donor site so we can support your work.Take care.

(DIR) Post #AWqrnTLhbtQWEDjBg0 by rayres@social.linux.pizza
2023-06-19T14:17:23Z

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@stux @scirave It will be too late by then

(DIR) Post #AWqrv25yp2WQ1Gykme by inkican@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T14:18:40Z

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@stux I only heard about Meta&#39;s interest this morning - can someone catch me up?

(DIR) Post #AWqrwNTEprRYbRV03k by kenmccann@infosec.exchange
2023-06-19T14:18:57Z

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@stux I very much appreciate your reasoned approach and your diligence to sharing your thoughts on your decisions and your plan of execution. It’s also encouraging to see so many people invested in the future of the #fediverse, which is why we’re seeing some emotions spilled on this topic. This is a good thing.With that said, if it were my decision (and it’s not), I would be taking the “guilty until proven in invent” approach with any entity that has previously threatened the well-being of democratic ideals, the same way I’d probably not engage in a friendship with the mafia.

(DIR) Post #AWqrzdi6udMfq40jHk by bryanhansel@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:19:43Z

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@stux I don&#39;t understand the knee -jerk reaction to block them. If the ActivityPub thing is going to work in the long run, companies will have to adopt it. They ought to be treated the same as any other instance. As long as they maintain the same standards as other allowed instances, they and their users shouldn&#39;t be penalized. The shouldn&#39;t be judged on what they &quot;might&quot; do in the future.

(DIR) Post #AWqs3R87d0nvymzJxI by CurtAdams@urbanists.social
2023-06-19T14:20:05Z

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@stux If Facebook connects to the Metaverse it might provide a way out for current Facebook members. If not I doubt it will get much traction. It&#39;s way to early to go on the warpath.

(DIR) Post #AWqs8tyFpHL4sLyj8i by IAmDannyBoling@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:21:29Z

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@stux Some people... :eyeroll: There&#39;s no reason for anyone to question you on this. tsk.

(DIR) Post #AWqsvBzW87KcfHb0mO by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:30:20Z

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@0xDEADBEEF @stux @scirave If you mean cross-site tracking, they can&#39;t identify me because I&#39;m not a Facebook or Instagram user. They just get anonymus data about me

(DIR) Post #AWqtWXdyaaEAX9KVkG by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:37:04Z

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@fosserytech @0xDEADBEEF @stux .... ? You&#39;re missing the point.Cross-site trackers wouldn&#39;t be an issue even if they did federate (that&#39;s not how they work). They can scrape your datat anyways. Scraping is a process in which bots are used to grab public data.They already have legal access to anything that can be publically viewed. This post of yours, for instance.

(DIR) Post #AWquSmnkOKdWL8fno8 by encryptomatic@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:47:04Z

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@stux Given your long history of trustworthiness and commitment to the instance and fediverse, I have no concerns about trusting you, and know that you will make the right decisions at the right moments. Thanks for all you do, have done, and will do.

(DIR) Post #AWquh8sp5XWEsbtQHY by Fatxkatx@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T14:49:57Z

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@stux this is a good sign of growth. People have strong opinions and ready to argue. This is the first controversial topic im following on Mastadon. Thanks for being open about it.

(DIR) Post #AWqv8vhjgFQW7AxOiG by tirmuncq@ioc.exchange
2023-06-19T14:55:01Z

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@stux Meta routinely censors, blocks and bans user content (content editing). Yet, the US govt decided not to make it liable, as a publisher, under S230. I wondered why. A month ago the EU fined Meta $1.3 billion for sharing its citizens&#39; data with US govt intelligence agencies. Quid pro quo?

(DIR) Post #AWqvZRAxIG2dFaGQrY by moisture9776@fosstodon.org
2023-06-19T14:59:51Z

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@stux we are cautious about meta, we&#39;ve seen how they act and I think they are not worthy of our time. I find it dangerous to associate with them and even if you can block them after, you can protect ypur users by preemptively blocking them.

(DIR) Post #AWqvZbXeki8rOsxhdQ by 0xDEADBEEF@fosstodon.org
2023-06-19T14:59:54Z

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@fosserytechThey don&#39;t care about your name. Your meta-data is much more interesting. Scrapping your posts will be just another datapoint for your shadow profile.@stux @scirave

(DIR) Post #AWqwOkWZ7EQE1lq6gC by tanoujin@social.coop
2023-06-19T15:08:53Z

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@stux while I do hope my instance will exclude anything meta-driven after the usual *democratic* process, I fail to see the harm you as a (kind of cute) benevolent dictator of your instance would do to us by giving the enemy a chance to embrace you. So, good luck, keep us posted - no need to cultivate hard feelings.

(DIR) Post #AWqxCoQWsbw6but7DM by fancysandwiches@urbanists.social
2023-06-19T15:18:07Z

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@stux By choosing to federate with a KNOWN bad actor, you are indeed giving them a free pass. It&#39;s really not that complicated!

(DIR) Post #AWqxn1uGEyesqF43k0 by bizarroland@mastodon.online
2023-06-19T15:24:44Z

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@stux Some people just love drama and love stirring the pot. It can&#39;t be helped, it&#39;s something that truly brings happiness and joy to their hearts.The best thing you can do if they are false is to calmly and simply deny the allegations and move on. Eventually these people will find something else to have drama over and will leave you alone.

(DIR) Post #AWqyCRv8epnAlLb0ue by iagondiscord@wetdry.world
2023-06-19T15:29:15Z

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@stux We are all pretty sure it will be threads.net (because threads.instagram.com redirects to it)

(DIR) Post #AWqziIAuWjMVl3ilEm by glowrocks@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T15:45:58Z

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@stux It&#39;s their own insecurities that cause many of them to over-react.You are taking a reasonable, measured approach, and that&#39;s a good thing.They hyperbole around what they could do is is very imaginative, but ...

(DIR) Post #AWr25auNF7nqQXE0wK by Techronic9876@mastodon.world
2023-06-19T16:12:52Z

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@stux letting meta get a foothold, let them bring attention to fediverse from the whole world, and THEN blocking them is probably the better tactic anyway 😛

(DIR) Post #AWr2b5W7URqAKrtimO by Cyclone1070@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T16:18:27Z

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@stux Don&#39;t know why people are angry, it&#39;s not like you promise to never ever block them. I totally support your decision, it&#39;s best to see how it turns out before taking action

(DIR) Post #AWr47azo5Vu1BbqezA by c_dan4th@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T16:35:43Z

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@stux I&#39;m on the right instance. I have no love for Meta, but kneejerk reactionism is not helpful here.

(DIR) Post #AWr5yWjYlT3DGn3Izw by VamptVo@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T14:23:24Z

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@scirave @stux There&#39;s some reporting on the fact that they&#39;re facing increased regulatory scrutiny for monopoly power and their walled garden business model, so federation could just be a way of offering an excuse to regulators. I highly doubt scraping the Fediverse is a goal — the number of people on here is a rounding error for FB. Not worth spinning up a whole new product to get a few million new users in the system.

(DIR) Post #AWr5yXdvNu8a5bQJqy by VamptVo@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T14:25:02Z

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@scirave @stux Think about it: Instagram doesn&#39;t need to join the Fediverse to &quot;get big.&quot; They have vastly more users in the Meta ecosystem than we have in the Fediverse.

(DIR) Post #AWr5yYLskTIcHvzQMy by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:30:12Z

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@VamptVo @stux Oh absolutely. But they chose ActivityPub for more than one reason. Users have lost trust in them, even among normies it&#39;s pretty prevelent. (the whole metaverse shit especially)That won&#39;t stop their existing platforms from retaining numbers, but it puts some friction on starting something new methinks. Definitely a calculated decission on multiple fronts. But I don&#39;t think they intend on letting competitors actually compete. I don&#39;t want us to put gasoline on the fire.

(DIR) Post #AWr5yYuGgcny0a4sy0 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:32:46Z

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@VamptVo @stux One of their obviously intended audiences is Twitter refugees. Their marketing would benefit from this. I think we can both agree that ActivityPub is a means to an end for them.Either way, defederating preemptively hurts at least some of their goals from this. So I still think it&#39;s a smart decission, and I&#39;m having trouble finding any &quot;bright side&quot; to federating with them, in the first place!

(DIR) Post #AWr5yZaS9mY67PoZii by VamptVo@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T14:36:23Z

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@scirave @stux I think many folks on here are way overestimating the value that federation provides to Meta. The ONLY value they get is the fact that they can say &quot;it&#39;s technically decentralized!&quot; to fend off regulatory suspicion. If your server defederates that&#39;s not going to hurt them. A few hundred thousand users? Who cares?What defederation does is it weakens the case for Mastodon and strengthens the case for Meta. You&#39;re making it harder to follow Meta users without joining Meta.

(DIR) Post #AWr5yaAbzLTLvYjS52 by VamptVo@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T14:38:24Z

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@scirave @stux It&#39;s a numbers game. If Meta is on ActivityPub alongside a bunch of small communities and those communities defederate, Meta still outnumbers them so effectively Meta now has a monopoly on ActivityPub, and the other communities have effectively given up on providing any countervailing influence for Meta.

(DIR) Post #AWr5yarVPrme4anhwG by freeschool@qoto.org
2023-06-19T16:56:37Z

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@VamptVo @scirave @stux I think it&#39;s not about numbers, it&#39;s about sense. Educated sense of how and with whom you mess with getting taken for a bad ride.I think I get what you mean but it may assume participation is better or it&#39;s ultimatum that musy be tsken when there is no better or no brilliant outcome in a trapped forced capitalist system which will eat as much space and people as you give it. We just have to DIY and DIE (last for as long as possible). Once you participate or they are in with ourpermission it&#39;s just 110% going to be more of the same mentality and proven &#39;system&#39; and hidtory trying to do EVERY WAY POSSIBLE to extract and exploit. Capitalistic aggression and force. It&#39;s a sure bet!

(DIR) Post #AWr762CyF3uQrox8a0 by thomy2000@social.linux.pizza
2023-06-19T17:09:01Z

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@stux You&#39;re doing amazing work. Don&#39;t listen to people complaining about this.

(DIR) Post #AWr7SYRR50xVCwSOwK by MaryAustinBooks@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T17:13:05Z

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@stux I&#39;m sorry people are being jerks, @stux. You are amazing and I am so grateful for this instance.

(DIR) Post #AWr8nnQUf5mTiYi1Uu by box@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T17:28:03Z

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@stux for what it’s with as a newcomer to mastadon, it’s my understanding I can block it if I want to, and I might choose to, but I’d rather make that decision myself thanks.

(DIR) Post #AWrA7j34kPUnt0p3HE by noirlover@heads.social
2023-06-19T17:42:48Z

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@stux It&#39;s not about your post or your integrity. Facebook has a track record of buying off competition and ruining those products. They are the proverbial fox in the hen house.

(DIR) Post #AWrALMS7YWc7rO2U88 by JustAnotherDay@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T17:44:46Z

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@stux Anyone can have an opinion Anyone can join in and jump Anyone can pay or just stay away Anyone can crash and thump— Pete Townshend, “Jools and Jim”PS: You got this.

(DIR) Post #AWrAZRSfjImBRu0kgy by maxleibman@mastodon.social
2023-06-19T17:47:51Z

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@stux That sounds totally out of line. Reminds me of the crypto cultists on Twitter, always insisting that critics were paid shills from the central banks. I definitely feel differently—I don’t think we need to wait and see what Meta is up to, in so far as we already know who Meta is. But it sounds like you’re completely aware of who they are, and as you point out we don’t know the domain, so there’s nothing to even block yet. I don’t know. You don’t sound like a shill to me. 🤷‍♂️

(DIR) Post #AWrDjKF7irHjos4vDs by markusl@fosstodon.org
2023-06-19T17:44:56Z

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@0xDEADBEEFIf you have a Facebook account (which I never have had) then is there a way for them to tie your FB data and your Fedi data together and learn more about you? Suppose, for instance, that you tap on a link in a toot and end up on a page with an invisible Meta pixel...?I found &quot;system&quot; software on my previous phone contacting FB every time I connected Bluetooth headphones, presumably in order to link devices together. FB really is that creepy.@fosserytech @stux @scirave

(DIR) Post #AWrDjL3ShhYEKzd7gW by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T18:23:29Z

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@markusl @0xDEADBEEF @stux @scirave if you use Facebook in a different browser than other websites they still collect your data but don&#39;t tie your accounts together. It&#39;s the point of the browser isolation technique.https://yt.funami.tech/watch?v=9z3_Em4S99g

(DIR) Post #AWrEMhzHNJbYktRkYq by markusl@fosstodon.org
2023-06-19T18:30:35Z

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@fosserytechYes, or Firefox Multi-Account Containers, which are a little unintuitive at first but then really useful once the penny has dropped.Personally, I don&#39;t use FB at all. My phone is configured to block all Meta domains. (Blokada has a list for it.) I&#39;d block it at the perimeter of our network if Mrs Wife didn&#39;t insist on using it. 😟@0xDEADBEEF @stux @scirave

(DIR) Post #AWrIyh8DPBCcvCzkfY by Missrdevine@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T19:22:06Z

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@stuxProbably contentious too but. What would a Chinese warlord do?

(DIR) Post #AWrJlqWLHjyaEOiXo0 by icg937@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T19:31:00Z

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@stux You should do a spez and engage with easy replies 😅Seriousness, being an admin is not easy. You wear on your back all of your users, who can acclaim you or criticize you, but they are your users, and you care about all of us. It&#39;s sad that some people seem to be more vitriolic about Meta intentions, that&#39;s not good. We all can disagree but being respectful with others&#39; points of view. I like your approach on that matter. First we see and afterwards we act accordingly. You&#39;re trusted.

(DIR) Post #AWrLmn9rTM7q04mTom by eris@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T19:53:37Z

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@stux need some of them zuck stux bux

(DIR) Post #AWrPtWmv8MIF4bWAoi by mydogwrotethis@universeodon.com
2023-06-19T20:39:35Z

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@stux Thanks for everything you do. Your influence extends far beyond your own instance.

(DIR) Post #AWrWLsJPIjU1f6c5yK by kgidley@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T21:51:56Z

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@stux I’m confident you’ll do the right thing re: Meta 👍👍

(DIR) Post #AWrXcStLAP5FhOtaNs by cmdr_nova@hackers.town
2023-06-19T22:06:12Z

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@stux In one post you say you don&#39;t agree with blocking out meta pre-emptively but then also say they shouldn&#39;t get a free passWhich is it, or are you just speaking in tongues

(DIR) Post #AWrcjrqxG55oui83IO by SandyJohnson@body.social
2023-06-19T23:03:36Z

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@stux In this conspiracy culture, people make the darkest assumptions with little or no evidence to do so.

(DIR) Post #AWrdVE14fphvGJRagi by EM64@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T23:11:58Z

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@stux I think you have the best of intentions and your position is eminently reasonable... I just don&#39;t think that Facebook deserve the benefit of the doubt. Their presence will never be good for society; their platforms are hives of hate speech, conspiracies and scams so there&#39;s no reason to believe that this venture will be any different. Regardless I appreciate your openness and don&#39;t question your integrity nor your commitment and trust you will do the right thing when the time comes.

(DIR) Post #AWrrk5nYuPGDTc6iAK by codybrom@mstdn.social
2023-06-20T01:51:39Z

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@stux I know you’ve said you’re taking a break, but I just wanted to show some support. I’m thankful to have such an amazing instance admin who cares so deeply about launching and supporting fediverse apps. I also feel like what you shared about no “free pass” is extremely fair. Thank you (and George and Washy) for all the time you put into make an Internet home for us.

(DIR) Post #AWrtDMADF3GOaKDgzw by varx@cybersecurity.theater
2023-06-20T02:08:15Z

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@stux Wait, so you *didn&#39;t* sign an NDA? I&#39;m confused. :-/

(DIR) Post #AWruaq6ECvFA2l7Lc0 by kballweg@mastodon.social
2023-06-20T02:23:43Z

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@stux @donmelton over reactionary folks are so hard to placate with reason... hence, &quot;over reactionary&quot;.&quot;

(DIR) Post #AWrzCnbmJjk58dENgu by franktaber@mas.to
2023-06-20T03:15:11Z

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@stux Purity trolls will purity troll. While you are not my admin I see the good work you are doing and you are appreciated.

(DIR) Post #AWrzOsVztrA1pbHqAS by shipp@mastodon.coffee
2023-06-20T03:17:32Z

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@stux my opinion matches yours, and I&#39;m really glad I&#39;ve picked one of your instances because you definitely match my values. I&#39;m also glad you&#39;re pretty light in blocks and I can shit post away. Oh and also because ☕The mastodon.coffee domain is underated. I feel like I&#39;m in a special club lol.

(DIR) Post #AWs2PNx5JmMPC3tFEe by mike@flipboard.social
2023-06-20T03:51:10Z

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@stux I really think this is the responsible way to go. Many really good new users will come to the fediverse because of this. Alienating all of them right out of the gate is self defeating and the opposite of everything we want the fediverse to be.

(DIR) Post #AWs6P0wDHd9BdKYpuK by abdulla77@mastodon.social
2023-06-20T04:36:00Z

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@stux don’t let them get to you.. your approach is right and I trust you.

(DIR) Post #AWs6lJvJNPBEt1m90i by shipp@mastodon.coffee
2023-06-20T04:39:56Z

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@stux I just want to be able to communicate with my friends and family, and see what they&#39;re up to. To be able to do that from the fedi would be awesome to me.

(DIR) Post #AWsCIPvUZum6pbSeaO by oetgrunnen@mstdn.social
2023-06-20T05:42:03Z

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@stux Fully agree, Meta is a crap company, but until they F* it up no reason to block them on forehand

(DIR) Post #AWsJGxLc2yrRaMvfvs by AGreatSound@mstdn.social
2023-06-20T07:00:11Z

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@stux I appreciate you not preemptively blocking meta. I think we should see how they act before doing anything. The Fedi is open for a reason. I appreciate your thoughtfulness

(DIR) Post #AWsOR1Db0hPEFznTTU by darnell@one.darnell.one
2023-06-20T07:57:59Z

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@stux You have principles &amp; are not swayed by evil men with money. It’s one of the reasons why I follow you. 😃

(DIR) Post #AWskDmS6nR15gjg5aq by calisti@chaos.social
2023-06-20T12:01:54Z

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@stux There’s drama. What actually happened?

(DIR) Post #AWtWIsxcozn37Zv4HA by Silicanus@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-20T21:00:55.435993Z

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@eris @stux lmao&gt; need some of them zuck stux buxd you really get banned for this cc @eris

(DIR) Post #AWtWbuEkIj1ga5zt9E by stux@mstdn.social
2023-06-20T21:04:16Z

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@vamanimal @eris@akko.disqordia.space @eris @Silicanus huh, that was weird :blobcatgiggle: Ive undone it 😉 (i think a mod took it a little too serious but i know you too well I think :ed_grin: )

(DIR) Post #AWtWhb7WHxzb1uKbOS by stux@mstdn.social
2023-06-20T21:05:17Z

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@eris@akko.disqordia.space @eris @Silicanus Already did :cat_hug_triangle: i think it was about that joke but not sure... gonna check logs