Post AWob6LPfFmUta24fGy by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
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(DIR) Post #AWoW3KtQEO07KNjtmy by Houl@md.ilyamikcoder.com
2023-06-18T11:03:56Z
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I use BIOS btw
(DIR) Post #AWoWIZQ0VWySioFFdg by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:07:25.115791Z
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@Houl I use GNU Grub as my BIOS btw.
(DIR) Post #AWoWpJ0gXCuRO80h0K by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:13:00.433157Z
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@Suiseiseki @Houl GNU Grub is not BIOS asshole :laughing_cirno:
(DIR) Post #AWoWtpcHFNLnfnkfTM by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:14:05.987490Z
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@charlie_root @Suiseiseki @Houl know-it-all. xd amazing !
(DIR) Post #AWoWv7L0qP4ivQI0fY by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:14:24.622424Z
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@charlie_root @Houl @Suiseiseki or smart-ass?
(DIR) Post #AWoX0JHbrNgDQ7Aq4O by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:15:18.087598Z
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@charlie_root Did I stutter?I use https://libreboot.at/ in which, a free version of coreboot inits the hardware for me and then jumps into grub - making grub the BIOS.
(DIR) Post #AWoX3z6UpOGPzfjBOy by ovinu@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:16:02.061014Z
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Lol freetard
(DIR) Post #AWoXJ6CwhJAiN0x42i by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:15:58.392273Z
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@Suiseiseki Grub is grub, your bios is just libreboot
(DIR) Post #AWoXJAlpjXSIWNIyye by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:18:40.775683Z
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@charlie_root @Suiseiseki grub is a bootloader. even the dev says so. and bootloader != biosGNU GRUB is a Multiboot boot loader. It was derived from GRUB, the GRand Unified Bootloader, which was originally designed and implemented by Erich Stefan Boleyn.
(DIR) Post #AWoXSUZ3VefiW7lwJ6 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:20:24.299318Z
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@charlie_root Coreboot does hardware init, but it doesn't handle basic input or output, which makes it not a BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) by definition - it's a bootloader.GNU Grub (also in cbfs on the SPI flash chip) is what handles the basic input and output - which therefore makes GNU Grub my BIOS.I admit that the cbfs also contains SeaBIOS, but that's not even used by default on my librebooted thinkpad.
(DIR) Post #AWoXdqyaWVOrDB8GqO by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:22:25.756115Z
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@Suiseiseki @charlie_root what grub does is bios interrupt like int 13h and shit. bios has interrupt vector shit. i was an osdev.
(DIR) Post #AWoXpYlE4e5WBySqoK by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:24:39.810479Z
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@Suiseiseki @charlie_root shut up you retard
(DIR) Post #AWoXtBWSPmxvHKHjWq by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:25:13.958318Z
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@Nishi So you're telling me to implement BIOS interrupts in GNU grub?
(DIR) Post #AWoXwkxj6h5o3tk8DQ by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:25:54.758561Z
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@Suiseiseki
(DIR) Post #AWoY2OkiayeQuuLgX2 by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:25:02.961475Z
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@Suiseiseki Which is why you shouldn't use coreboot. Use stock firmware with BSD or GNU/Linux. Coreboot and it's counterpart "libreboot", are not good alternatives to real firmware. These are reverse engineering efforts that are buggy and may potentially brick your machine. This whole movement was built on Intel ME paranoia stoked by internet personalities that don't give two shit's if your machine runs properly...
(DIR) Post #AWoY2e7xQr9YbKKxKy by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:27:01.713146Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki gnulusers unironically believe this shit, smh
(DIR) Post #AWoY6O8Kq5J09gIX8S by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:27:36.486361Z
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@sysrq @Suiseiseki gnulusers have gone insane
(DIR) Post #AWoY7yKnjJVUiissAi by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:27:56.382776Z
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@sysrq @Suiseiseki or always have been
(DIR) Post #AWoYAkRpofKgWLUv0y by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:28:29.568990Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki too much gpl fluoride
(DIR) Post #AWoYF1nzDxVhVmtqpk by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:29:13.044212Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki @sysrq gnu users be like
(DIR) Post #AWoYGYAwMFiyCCMVf6 by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:29:25.779620Z
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@sysrq @Suiseiseki disgusting
(DIR) Post #AWoYKKbyjKOJHooPIG by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:30:13.470115Z
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@dcc @Nishi @Suiseiseki spooge drinking nigger faggot gnulusers will believe and tout the most retarded bullshit ever, ask one of them anything regarding compiler design if you want a show
(DIR) Post #AWoYPEWqlyv7rwkbVQ by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:31:00.521799Z
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@sysrq @dcc @Suiseiseki actually are another freesoftwareextremist like thisif sodisgusting
(DIR) Post #AWoYRAJtOPrDOVbwy8 by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:31:25.474486Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki @sysrq :run_bsd:
(DIR) Post #AWoYSo5D2Wid0VWfFA by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:31:41.896756Z
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@dcc @Suiseiseki @sysrq fr
(DIR) Post #AWoYUdLPw7pIHUyhhA by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:32:02.575508Z
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@charlie_root @Suiseiseki If you care about spooks use arm
(DIR) Post #AWoYWcGiuI9jWYjBxI by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:32:26.696429Z
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@dcc @Nishi @Suiseiseki bsd is responsible for :fire: cat -v :fire:it's okay though
(DIR) Post #AWoYapsKGCJeslKPIm by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:32:48.071680Z
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@dcc @Suiseiseki Or risc-v, or no technology, Ted K style.
(DIR) Post #AWoYazPymRaETk8uVU by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:33:06.278925Z
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@charlie_root >You shouldn't use coreboot>Use proprietary software insteadAre you kidding me?>are not good alternatives to real firmwareMy aim is to replace proprietary malware of all forms, not provide mere "alternatives" of them.>These are reverse engineering efforts that are buggySure, but imagine treating inconvenient bugs as something other than something to be fixed. >and may potentially brick your machine.Please don't try to tell me bullshit.If I was to do a bad flash on my thinkpad, I would just reflash with ISP and for my KGPE-D16s, I would just take out the SPI flash chip, reflash and reinstall.>built on Intel ME paranoiaIt's not paranoia if you're correct.The various version of the ME are a frontdoor, although AMD's PSP has same problems and if I remember correctly, you seem to love your compromised AMD hardware?
(DIR) Post #AWoYbwaInhthyqQUHw by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:33:22.130451Z
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@charlie_root @Suiseiseki :ted: we must destroy it all
(DIR) Post #AWoYdgMu3xLqGYzJOi by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:33:41.129891Z
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@sysrq @Suiseiseki @Nishi what does it do?
(DIR) Post #AWoYjbiuFK15b56Z96 by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:34:44.514418Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki i LOVE VAX and i LOVE DEC
(DIR) Post #AWoYjhaGSMfXm16kVc by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:34:48.590315Z
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@dcc @Nishi @Suiseiseki There's no reason for cat(1) to need flags of any kind.13b975e43695a7ac22a5ca80ed7dbcfeb57752b97fa7c629b92c26ecf65f8a88.gif
(DIR) Post #AWoYm636Szg0EJjs0W by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:35:14.558957Z
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@Nishi @charlie_root @Suiseiseki @dcc >vms:dilbertsuicide:
(DIR) Post #AWoYmiK6AFqkw1yym0 by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:35:18.948196Z
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@sysrq @Suiseiseki @Nishi does it matter?
(DIR) Post #AWoYpUOeOpgsbxR2kS by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:35:48.569305Z
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@sysrq @charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki you could use NetBSD/vax or revive OpenBSD/vax
(DIR) Post #AWoYpVr2yk018JjEeG by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:35:49.364986Z
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@sysrq @charlie_root @Suiseiseki @Nishi WRONG ONE :kms: is correct
(DIR) Post #AWoYtk3W7ZeMKrZtSa by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:36:37.462051Z
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@dcc @Nishi @Suiseiseki yeshttps://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdf
(DIR) Post #AWoYvI1NK8yhy1JXRw by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:36:50.516850Z
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@sysrq @Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc actually this is is me when vms
(DIR) Post #AWoYwHkrncc1Qm4EKG by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:37:05.042619Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE A MAINFRAME OPERATOR NOOOOOOOOOOO
(DIR) Post #AWoZ3Xv26I7tacHheC by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:38:17.765418Z
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@sysrq @charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki you cannot escape, we are going back to mainframe age
(DIR) Post #AWoZ65Hp0mdrel9cSu by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:38:51.296500Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:dilbertsuicide:
(DIR) Post #AWoZ6f4bxNSueDFZs8 by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:38:55.200581Z
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@Nishi @charlie_root @Suiseiseki @sysrq email is great ngl
(DIR) Post #AWoZ818lOihLNPq50S by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:39:08.655174Z
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@sysrq @charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki this will be you
(DIR) Post #AWoZBPV1HvHNnFroqu by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:39:49.049784Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc I swear if I have to be a sysadmin I will be going full maniac mode
(DIR) Post #AWoZFKxS7BPQro2SPI by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:40:25.633791Z
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@sysrq @charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki good
(DIR) Post #AWoZKHuCtIE8qdshTE by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:41:22.189088Z
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@sysrq @Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc i loved writing pdp11 asm on notepad, handassembling it, and running it
(DIR) Post #AWoZMVXz8uRtjgXtzc by sysrq@freespeechextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:41:49.387192Z
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@Nishi @Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc nerd
(DIR) Post #AWoZNxfY4TyXFCmDHE by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:42:02.232309Z
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@sysrq @charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki i am such a nerd
(DIR) Post #AWoZRRpcNuNDez9Ixc by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:42:40.727484Z
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@Nishi @charlie_root @Suiseiseki @sysrq NERDS?
(DIR) Post #AWoZTcsoGa8oVygGB6 by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:42:20.898151Z
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@Suiseiseki Intel ME paranoia has always been founded on hearsay. No one has ever concretely proven the Intel ME does anything malicious, outside of "it's proprietary so we will just assume malice" argument. Coreboot machines do actually brick and have issues. Noticeably they we're unable to run BSD's properly for at least 5 years after their creation. You might write this off as a GNUtard, but it meant something to a lot of people at the time. Especially since Core/Libre boots advertised themselves as something "Open Source" friendly. When secretly they only cared about the Linux kernel.Guess what, the Thinkpad is pretty irrelevant in 2023, good luck with your cause but you're basically a fringe personality these days.
(DIR) Post #AWoZUIvPxHBOuEDw4e by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T11:43:09.098142Z
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@dcc @charlie_root @Suiseiseki @sysrq 🔥
(DIR) Post #AWoa4lxNUfCJN3WvXE by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:49:44.500065Z
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@charlie_root >No one has ever concretely proven the Intel ME does anything maliciousNo-one has ever concretely proven that the me doesn't do anything malicious either.Software being proprietary is maliciousness in the purest form.>Coreboot machines do actually brick and have issues.Please advise me of any failures you have heard of that wasn't due to hardware failure.>they we're unable to run BSD's properly Why would I want to run proprietary software?>secretly they only cared about the Linux kernel.Yes, free software developers only really care about supporting the only 100% free system available (GNU/Linux-libre), who would have thought?>the Thinkpad is pretty irrelevant in 2023It's a laptop, I don't get how "relevancy" or "irrelevancy" even applies to it.I typically use my KGPE-D16s more even so.>you're basically a fringe personality these days. Freedom enjoying was always a fringe personality in the whole history of humanity and always will be.
(DIR) Post #AWoa7Jvk9RlrJjyqvI by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:50:13.740577Z
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@dcc
(DIR) Post #AWoaDDnDsoQU1IoDSK by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:51:15.939576Z
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@Suiseiseki your not using i2p? enjoy your glow net fed :glowie:
(DIR) Post #AWoaprkZlryCwvzvyi by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T11:58:14.149474Z
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@dcc Yes, some glowers originally developed it for their own usage, but they decided to release it as free software and let other people improve it for them.A different group of glowers do not like this at all, as thanks to Tor, they have great difficulties, even impossibilities spying on the online activities of Tor users.The security of Tor's design has been well researched and has been found to not contain a backdoored.i2p has more of a focus on in-network routing, rather than exiting to the clearnet and the security of its routing mechanisms has been researched a lot less.Why yes I run a Tor, i2p and GNUnet relay.
(DIR) Post #AWoaxsyF7LD93FDMmW by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:59:43.331818Z
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@Suiseiseki You do bot understand, the tor net has many glow exit nodes, the fbi even released docs about it
(DIR) Post #AWoazVc4vmUhBkcaky by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T11:58:35.155917Z
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@Suiseiseki @dcc >they we're unable to run BSD's properly Why would I want to run proprietary software?Hey faggot. BSD's are FREE software. Free, Open, Net, all operate in the same manner and administration as Linux distros. So drop the pretensious bullshit.>Coreboot machines do actually brick and have issues.Please advise me of any failures you have heardI can't quote anything on reddit because of the current api strike, r/openbsd is literally unusable right now or I would. But I was the principal guy that showcased this, so basically coreboot does not init hardware 100%. A lot of the buck is passed to the Linux kernel. So if you are using BSD you are lucky to boot, with a lot of GPU problems. Otherwise it's glitchy screen and a really unstable boot.
(DIR) Post #AWob0J5sxkS4eNwaWG by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T12:00:05.182136Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki common charlie w
(DIR) Post #AWob6LPfFmUta24fGy by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T12:01:14.649344Z
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@charlie_root @Suiseiseki @dcc actually i have good hardware. thinkcentre m72e works so well w/ netbsd.except its vga output has problems but dvi works fine
(DIR) Post #AWob7BEoZMiSJROja4 by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T12:01:24.685630Z
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@Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc
(DIR) Post #AWobLzwqpJOtdr3rfc by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T12:04:05.352616Z
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@Suiseiseki @charlie_root @dcc just upgrade m72e w/ i5-2500K then you can actually daily drive it as long as you do not need opengl 4.x
(DIR) Post #AWobnxP7sWjhrOcPqK by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T12:09:03.946291Z
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@charlie_root >FREE software.Considering that all BSD's were derived from proprietary Unix's with software being copied under unclear licensing terms, I cannot say that any BSD is free software.While the current holder of Unix's copyrights does not care and may never care, that's not a guarantee.A lot of BSDs also do disgusting things like install proprietary software without asking the user (OpenBSD's installer is one example, which installs proprietary software automatically if it detects the hardware could use it).Almost off of the BSD distros repos have lots of proprietary software programs that don't seem to be even properly marked either.Most versions of GNU/Linux are proprietary as well, but you clearly shouldn't use those.>coreboot does not init hardware 100%. A lot of the buck is passed to the Linux kernel. So if you are using BSD you are lucky to boot, with a lot of GPU problems. Otherwise it's glitchy screen and a really unstable boot. Well, this doesn't apply to me as I don't use OS's that are an embarrassment to run: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=2oLuJSFZKEs (by a cuck to proprietary software of course).
(DIR) Post #AWoc7ytA4L8sFvDQS8 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T12:12:43.546369Z
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@dcc Yes, there are a few BadExits, but they're constantly being searched for and kicked off the network once found.Tor's design accounts for a certain percentage of compromised relays in the network to ensure that most users retain privacy despite the glowers nodes.i2p probably has more luminescent nodes.
(DIR) Post #AWocH6rzlSW5cD1UDQ by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T12:14:23.970077Z
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@Suiseiseki How? there is an entire fbi document on this: https://www.odni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ODNI-Declassified-Report-on-CAI-January2022.pdf
(DIR) Post #AWocTZiqJlUyZfgalk by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T12:16:37.902697Z
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@Suiseiseki @charlie_root You think you have control of your software when you have none, people use gpl code behind the back of everyone.
(DIR) Post #AWoccpRJFcXBvVth8C by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-18T12:18:20.882230Z
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@dcc @charlie_root @Suiseiseki without getting into it, just look at what microsoft has done with linux.
(DIR) Post #AWocjumPnHGMW69FTc by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T12:19:33.949949Z
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@dcc I can't be bothered to read the whole thing, but skimming it, I don't see anything to do with Tor.All I see is: (U) As prescribed in our terms of reference (TOR) and the report seems to be merely about the usage of "commercially available information".
(DIR) Post #AWocoIbr8aQza7IemW by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T12:20:22.271044Z
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@Suiseiseki you dont care to read evidence, i cant help you the n
(DIR) Post #AWodSsPRSDT2CCqGjw by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T12:27:41.283426Z
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@dcc >you have control of your software when you have noneI have pretty good control of the GNU software on my machine.>people use gpl code behind the back of everyone. Why don't you look up what happens to businesses that try at infringing the copyright of the FSF?Businesses may get away for using GPLv{2,3}'d code in proprietary software for a while, but they're taking a huge risk, as they will get found out eventually and there will be hell to pay.Of course businesses are going to infringe the GPLv2 all the time if you fail to actually enforce your license just like most of the Linux developers.@ringo >just look at what microsoft has done with linux. Until semi-recently, it seems that microsoft was shipping GNU, without Linux ("WSL1"), taking care not to infringe the GPLv{2,3} and making sure to call GNU with the kernel of windows, "Linux".
(DIR) Post #AWodWYwzk9mR0IIHh2 by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-18T12:28:25.248212Z
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@Suiseiseki @dcc yes.and its not interesting to me to discuss, but just wanted to add that in there.:)
(DIR) Post #AWodbG49NpPXsksbkO by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T12:29:13.233805Z
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@dcc I'm sorry, a report that was intentionally declassified due to an utter lack of secrecy on an entirely unrelated topic is not evidence.
(DIR) Post #AWodcbEIBPqBoFGNZw by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T12:29:27.089341Z
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@Suiseiseki @ringo >if you fail to actually enforce your license well yea tell me how you can prove your gpl code on is a property program? your pissing into the wind
(DIR) Post #AWoegM8wJd2c8H7AlU by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-18T12:41:19.558193Z
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@dcc You can often tell if a proprietary program has GPL'd code in it by looking at its functionality and then by reverse engineering it.It's pretty clear what happened if a program has a command line with the exact workings and functionality of GNU readline for example.Basic reverse engineering techniques usually reveal usage of a GPL'd library very quickly.Crappy infringing developers often forget to strip symbols and so even just GNU strings can be used to find interesting function names and other strings that exist in the GPL'd libraries.Beyond that, you can run the program through a decompiler and compare the output of decompiled functions to functions in GPL'd software.Tools like binwalk are useful too - that can very quickly identify a binary of Linux in a "firmware" update file.From there, you just need to contact copyright holders and maybe suggest they get a bit of external help from the FSF or the SFC - receiving a strongly worded notice of infringement from a lawyer makes most company execs shit their pants after all.
(DIR) Post #AWogDC2B1PQOI3AnZY by Sqaaakoi@wetdry.world
2023-06-18T12:58:08Z
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@Houl I use UEFI btw
(DIR) Post #AWogicLLFsDqrb7btY by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-18T13:03:55.680201Z
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@charlie_root@dcc @Suiseiseki > BSD's are FREE software.Wrong, not only BSD systems include nonfree software from third parties, they have hundreds of nonfree source files making them nonfree. Hypberola is the only project santizing OpenBSD to make it a properly free operating system, because BSDtards don't give a fuck about free software. https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/tree/
(DIR) Post #AWpZQ9qhx42Ol00Hlw by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T23:11:30.900405Z
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@sallyNULL @dcc @Suiseiseki Fuck off retard.
(DIR) Post #AWpZQAtE5Be7z6BoKu by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-18T23:17:06.462634Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki @sallyNULL i give a fuck about it, you shit linux users have nonfree shit too. eg firmware.
(DIR) Post #AWpdhvI3DhFqdGWHTM by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:04:12.996056Z
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@Nishi@charlie_root @dcc > you shit linux users have nonfree shit too. eg firmware.Unless we don't pick a shit distro with nonfree blobs, with BSD no matter what your choice is, it's plagued with nonfree crap.
(DIR) Post #AWpdi3GZZ4pFMztDHM by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:05:01.944509Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc rm -rf /usr/libdata/firmware/*dumbass.
(DIR) Post #AWpdlTXaKkOtj9TnEG by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-19T00:03:13.103660Z
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@Nishi @dcc @Suiseiseki @sallyNULL Exactly, they are fucking stupid and pretend to be knowledgeable about things but in reality just a smelly cult of neckbeards with broken Thinkpads using broken distros (ie FSF approved garbage). Have you ever tried to install a FSF distro? They are the most buggy, shitty stacks that don't work I swear. Even Trisquel is hot garbage, the installer literally crashed mid install.I know some people use GUIX and parabola, but they are so rare and the users are the smuggest assholes I swear.
(DIR) Post #AWpdlUMdGxEYHTMYnQ by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:05:48.519132Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki @sallyNULL "know-it-all" or "smart-ass". i hate them.
(DIR) Post #AWpe22XPyxUau2If3I by MisterRogersSnapped@seal.cafe
2023-06-19T00:08:50.477837Z
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I like to use deepinBecause it's from Wuhan and I find that terribly amusing
(DIR) Post #AWpe5xippU0l7oVi5I by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:07:11.910342Z
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@Nishi@charlie_root @dcc The kernel itself has nonfree blobs even if you delete all modules you retarded cum eater faggot.Also even if you do delete all firmware, it doesn't solve this fucking problem:https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/tree/
(DIR) Post #AWpe5yUgxYIBWEtvg8 by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:09:25.090606Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc i use netbsd. they "load" firmware. not embed them on kernel. netbsd is intended to be portable easily, why the fuck would you link the proprieitary shit which has fcking specific architecture shit
(DIR) Post #AWpeCqZMoz9ay6Mg6q by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-19T00:10:17.032465Z
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@sallyNULL @dcc @Nishi > nonfree crapFirmware is vendor distributed for free or via an NDA agreement.The Linux kernel and all major distros do it because otherwise, 99% of machines would not work properly, nobody would have wifi, or bluetooth, a lot of graphics cards wouldn't work, etc.You use them anyway, whether you like it or not. There is baked in firmware on ROM on a lot of your chips.Theo de Raadt, a very accomplished computer scientist and programmer, explains the fallacy of this firmware cult herehttps://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143355112811564&w=2
(DIR) Post #AWpeJCzYMuCyFPe9cu by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:10:03.717253Z
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@Nishi @charlie_root @dcc > Free operating systemImagine calling your operating system with almost 300 source files with all rights reserved a "free operating system" lmao
(DIR) Post #AWpeJDiDgpwATwXpFQ by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:11:54.436966Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc it's free. costs ¥0 :)
(DIR) Post #AWpeQIIB3mx4iIjj6W by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:13:08.662069Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc also that's openbsd one i use netbsd not openbsd, dumbass.i do not even know about openbsd
(DIR) Post #AWpeYrFixhV5SSflVA by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:14:41.811141Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL also theo is a god of creating FREE driver
(DIR) Post #AWpemswJUEuckCHY24 by SuperSnekFriend@mugicha.club
2023-06-19T00:17:19.130466Z
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>The kernel includes a few minor firmwares which are FREELY PROVIDED by the vendors of that hardware, since those vendors chose to not put those firmware onto ROMS on their cards. Those firmwares are FREE. Please indicate a single vendor who wants MONEY for that firmware. They don't want money. >An "accomplished computer scientist" confusing "free" as in free beer and "free" as in freedomI don't have much of a beef in this fight, but come on now!
(DIR) Post #AWpeq8vEWK4bBLKXOS by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:15:24.070952Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @Nishi You don't need to explain it, I know why they come bundled with nonfree firmware, it doesn't make it any less retarded and unacceptable, maybe BSDtards don't give a fuck about it but someone has to.Hardware is shit so software has to be shit and full of shit that is potential malware and unnecessary, that's what most Linuxtards and BSDtards think unfortunately.> You use them anyway, whether you like it or not. There is baked in firmware on ROM on a lot of your chips.That's a different issue with hardware being closed, not software, I do hope you know the difference between embedded firmware and loaded blobs/firmware/drivers, right?
(DIR) Post #AWpeq9g1iLVHWTDuKW by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:17:47.014384Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc can you please fucking read english
(DIR) Post #AWpeuejYBh6D0C1A3c by abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in
2023-06-19T00:17:36.127710Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki All my attempts to install BSD failed on my Thinkcentre. Even tried the GUI installer of ghostBSD.
(DIR) Post #AWpeufTHRfg9I1PgKu by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-06-19T00:18:40.126246Z
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@abhijith @charlie_root @Suiseiseki skill issue kek
(DIR) Post #AWpeyHUQY9h24RflDs by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:19:20.003831Z
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@dcc @charlie_root @Suiseiseki @abhijith skill issue. i use netbsd on thinkcentre and it works fine.
(DIR) Post #AWpf2E6p3rO0kBVrwe by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:19:15.124393Z
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@SuperSnekFriend @charlie_root @dcc @Nishi >The kernel includes a few minor firmwares which are FREELY PROVIDED by the vendors of that hardware, since those vendors chose to not put those firmware onto ROMS on their cards. Those firmwares are FREE. Please indicate a single vendor who wants MONEY for that firmware. They don't want money. >An "accomplished computer scientist" confusing "free" as in free beer and "free" as in freedom> I don't have much of a beef in this fight, but come on now!Can you switch on your brain a moment?Free software means that the software's users have freedom. (The issue is not about price.) We developed the GNU operating system so that users can have freedom in their computing.Specifically, free software means users have the four essential freedoms: (0) to run the program, (1) to study and change the program in source code form, (2) to redistribute exact copies, and (3) to distribute modified versions.Software differs from material objects—such as chairs, sandwiches, and gasoline—in that it can be copied and changed much more easily. These facilities are why software is useful; we believe a program's users should be free to take advantage of them, not solely its developer.https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
(DIR) Post #AWpf2ErGHCX74DExKS by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:20:02.527193Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc @SuperSnekFriend gnu's free != our free. laugh at this gnutard :marseylaugh: pushing their "free" to us
(DIR) Post #AWpfEoM27z12dEd1we by abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in
2023-06-19T00:21:17.793543Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki @sallyNULL @Nishi I did use Trisquel and Parabola very well on my old desktop and a Dell laptop but they won't work in the hardware I got later on. It just depends on hardware. When we can't install them we call them garbage - BSD or Linux. Maybe we are calling ourselves garbage for being incompetent.
(DIR) Post #AWpfEp8FEja32lBX5k by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:22:16.269109Z
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@abhijith @charlie_root @dcc @Suiseiseki @sallyNULL fair. tbh
(DIR) Post #AWpfLK01NxSSVxR9iy by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-19T00:23:30.839462Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL @Nishi correct. and to OP:if you didn't pay for it, it was free.:-)
(DIR) Post #AWpfOF5G7MC88cHOW8 by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-19T00:21:41.933283Z
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@Nishi @dcc @sallyNULL Why are we even having this discussion. I am sick and tired of having to deal with Linux fanboys. I like using Linux when it's benefits me, but specifically FreeBSD and OpenBSD have cool features and design choices that I personally like. Splitting hairs over firmware blobs and licenses is just so insanely petty to me. Imagine people that actually have meaningful work to do with their computers, whether it be video editing or music production, CGI, video game development, graphic design, you name it, most people are using Windows or MacOS. We probably sound like the biggest fucking nutjobs on earth sitting around and bickering about shit like this.The paranoia of the open source community is just off the charts. You got people on here afraid to click links because their web browser might load a "big tech" website and harvest their worthless data. I understand getting wise about privacy, software freedom, they are good and there is a time and place for them if you're going on a computer for any amount of time on a daily basis.But people are making the "what tools I use on my little shit silicon box" a fucking personality and it's honestly stupid. It make me hate this shit. Like we all should seriously touch more grass and get laid.Rant over 😤
(DIR) Post #AWpfP0NeGnpapGFFCq by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:23:59.892087Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL fr.
(DIR) Post #AWpfTR0RDbfIYuV5hw by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:21:42.523318Z
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@Nishi @charlie_root @dcc @SuperSnekFriend https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2oLuJSFZKEs
(DIR) Post #AWpfTSqaNCyMGvuFd2 by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:24:57.596257Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc @SuperSnekFriend i am not going to use the slow youtube clone via tsukuba vpn
(DIR) Post #AWpfVyuu6t7SJV7u1A by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:25:25.561196Z
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@ringo @charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL 🏴☠️ best
(DIR) Post #AWpfYGJwNFvSryvO7M by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-19T00:25:51.044328Z
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@Nishi @charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL you cannot pirate an operating system offered for free.:)
(DIR) Post #AWpfcPfRZ4pb15xgoa by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-19T00:26:36.230565Z
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@Nishi @charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL the 'non free' designation of firmware means you cannot create GPL designations etc that are reverse engineered network stacks of that driver,and release it as you own.thats really where the distinction lies.
(DIR) Post #AWpfeBo64J74bmr9Zg by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:26:18.645744Z
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@ringo @charlie_root @dcc @Nishi Is that a challenge? Cause I will win if it is.
(DIR) Post #AWpfeCdqxsVtCJ4UFM by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-19T00:26:55.351974Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc @Nishi no, i'm just trying to explain something .
(DIR) Post #AWpfmAboPIPHD1upeK by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:28:16.635627Z
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@ringo @charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL true!
(DIR) Post #AWpfmvQ4MlwMODmcN6 by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-19T00:28:30.145073Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL @Nishi i use my linux box to GST, (get stuff done) and yeah arguments like this are the ideological space of teenagers and early 20 somethings and wanna be lifer soy folks....just use the OS that best works for you, stop whining, (you got it for free) and make something useful with your time.
(DIR) Post #AWpfudFdnbcMMIa2To by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:28:45.990183Z
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@ringo @charlie_root @dcc @Nishi > you cannot pirate an operating system offered for free.I meant if this is a challenge, cause it's legally possible to do it thanks to that retard of Linus refusing to upgrade to GPLv3.
(DIR) Post #AWpfudszRJ5qKKzSoS by ringo@talk-here.com
2023-06-19T00:29:52.873936Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root @dcc @Nishi i dont care enough to keep up with what wokeLinus is up to these days.i just use the OS....his politics are not my business. as long as he can code, thats fine.if the OS decides that its going to nuke my files because im not supporting trans folks, then we have an issue.
(DIR) Post #AWpg6DeylyVcSnxPeq by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:31:52.819246Z
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@ringo @charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL i have no idea for the new shit. that's why i'm doing thisi wouldn't be doing this if i was not this free
(DIR) Post #AWpgCvlPi0pszEAQRU by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-19T00:32:23.547475Z
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@sallyNULL @dcc @SuperSnekFriend @Nishi I understand how free software works. I know all about the GNU and Stallman philosophies of computing, I get it. But it's not realistic or even necessary for most people to conform to a pure FSF experience, I don't even believe that most of you do. But you guys shove it down our throats like a goddamned cult and turn us off. Then you talk shit on BSD and other LInux distros nonstop.I'm over it. I don't care about Stallman, or FSF or GNU. I hate it all.
(DIR) Post #AWpgDRfV5X7Tw9e9fU by Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe
2023-06-19T00:33:13.185329Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL @SuperSnekFriend relatable
(DIR) Post #AWphT4xJOwAS59zq8u by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-19T00:38:52.583121Z
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@adiz @dcc @Nishi @sallyNULL Haha, you're so clever.I have never once put down a Linux user and said that BSD was superior. But I just start casually talking about BSD, because it is something I'm interested in, it's a hobby for me, and like clockwork these GNU bozos come around with the firmware and licensing bullshit. It just gets old, it really does.Also higher up in the thread someone said that the BSD's are proprietary and that just riled me up.
(DIR) Post #AWphT5kET3IcWssuOW by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2023-06-19T00:47:01.854683Z
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@charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL @adiz @Nishi stallmanist GNU vir/g/ins make using their corporate subverted OS into their entire personality because they approach it with the mindset of either a cult or (at best) a non-technical consumer who doesn't do sysadmin and could not tell you the strengths and weaknesses of Linux vs *BSD for those purposes. they just have a bunch of empty signifiers to throw around to signal which ingroup they're part ofthat being said *BSD is superior to lincucks :smugcat:
(DIR) Post #AWphglJdDdt7DwxdfE by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2023-06-19T00:49:38.389008Z
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@adiz @charlie_root @dcc @Nishi @sallyNULL please, I only use Microsoft® Xenix™
(DIR) Post #AWpiQs2oXACfPi54sa by ink@social.xenofem.me
2023-06-19T00:56:50.268461Z
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@nyx @charlie_root @Nishi @adiz @dcc @sallyNULL usually a humble debian user/childhood stallmanist but i have to point out debian powers the international space station and BSD remains grounded :lain_smug4:
(DIR) Post #AWpiTLVTxr2rMvfdJ2 by nyx@social.xenofem.me
2023-06-19T00:58:03.194339Z
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@ink @Nishi @adiz @charlie_root @dcc @sallyNULL it's so fucking over :lain_cry1:
(DIR) Post #AWqhhgsTOoxAuJf0bY by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
2023-06-19T00:45:27.751553Z
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@adiz @charlie_root@dcc @adiz @Nishi> Also higher up in the thread someone said that the BSD's are proprietary and that just riled me up.Because they are, get over it and accept it, it's the truth. Just like Linux upstream is also nonfree, so is *BSD. And if you think no licensing statement makes it public domain, I got bad news for you, the Berne convention disagrees, everything is all rights reserved by default unless stated otherwise almost everywhere.
(DIR) Post #AWqiZgORPsFn2hMIc4 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-19T12:34:22.741324Z
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@sallyNULL @charlie_root I'd just like to add a note.I have no idea how Theo can be such an accomplished computer scientist but lack basic logical thinking ability.The "firmware" isn't even gratis - you pay for it as a percentage of the cost you paid for the hardware - the manufacturer just doesn't typically bother to double charge the suckers.Technically you can download a copy of it without having paid for the hardware, but the manufacturer doesn't care that you haven't paid in that case, as you clearly can't run it or get anything useful out it.
(DIR) Post #AWqiw12LLQWJREfhxI by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-06-18T23:13:14.953690Z
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@Suiseiseki YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
(DIR) Post #AWqiw1pGPXeTsxYmCu by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-19T12:38:25.783518Z
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@charlie_root Kek.The fact that you wrote such pathetic words in full caps is demonstrating that you can't handle the truth.Seethe harder BSD cuck.