Post AWeLsnSbuFXNip5gps by liaizon@social.wake.st
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(DIR) Post #AWeLsfDQYodg9PvS3k by liaizon@social.wake.st
2023-06-12T08:33:02Z
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Want to watch the #threadiverse growing by the hour?@tao just set up @threadcount, which posts every hour the number of new people signing up to #Kbin and #Lemmypost submitted to @kbinMeta on Kbin and @fediverse on Lemmy
(DIR) Post #AWeLsg8V8cID0Qd21I by taladar@sh.itjust.works
2023-06-12T08:36:04.424802+00:00
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Is it possible to follow that from Lemmy or do you need an account on one of the micro-blogging fediverse sites?
(DIR) Post #AWeLsgpkXot5AYrZQm by wakest@lemmy.ml
2023-06-12T08:42:13.717064+00:00
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you can look at the account on this side https://lemmy.ml/u/threadcount@botsin.space but I don't think you can even "follow" users on lemmy, but that is a good question and I am still getting my grip of how lemmy works, I never really used reddit so I don't know what the assumptions are
(DIR) Post #AWeLshVa2ILdGIQydE by taladar@sh.itjust.works
2023-06-12T08:45:53.315295+00:00
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The whole reddit like part of the fediverse makes sense to me, what I am still confused by is how that part interacts with the microblogging part.
(DIR) Post #AWeLsi8DidFxC8VprM by liaizon@social.wake.st
2023-06-12T08:48:03Z
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@taladar @wakest this is a reply from mastodon, as an example!
(DIR) Post #AWeLsijRUF1x3ZvYsS by smallcircles@social.coop
2023-06-13T04:57:49Z
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@liaizon @taladar @wakest 👋 Hi there. This is a reply from the #vidiverse (Only joking 😜 .. just not much of a fan of giving each application type its on *-verse name)
(DIR) Post #AWeLsjW0ZfsXUCeLZo by liaizon@social.wake.st
2023-06-13T07:06:53Z
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@smallcircles I don't disagree that coming up with new names for things that could be described more easily would be the better option, but saying "lemmy and kbin" over and over doesn't roll off the tongue. And I also don't want to refer to it by "the reddit part of the fediverse" there IS something distinct going on and we need a way to refer to it and other people have come up with Threadiverse quite organically.
(DIR) Post #AWeLskLPUYzm3chOhE by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-06-13T07:18:49.736949Z
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@liaizon @smallcircles https://pleroma.payfrit.com/notice/AWbardzFaqAWCflGXg
(DIR) Post #AWeLslMVhxTBDKDn3A by smallcircles@social.coop
2023-06-13T07:25:30Z
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@pinkyfloyd @liaizon This morning I bumped into a toot or lemmy post (can't find it now) about someone saying we need a proxy UI that takes care of all your identities in the various apps. And that is well possible.For these kinds of thoughts there's the #FediverseIdea initiative started by @helge and to found at #Codeberg at: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideasHere one might drop off such ideas so that others can follow-up with more info and - who knows - start a project to realize it in practice.
(DIR) Post #AWeLsm80rLT1aeRj5k by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-06-13T08:19:20.570973Z
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@smallcircles @liaizon @h we need something, i know that much.why carry seven different fediverse apps (and identities) around. that doesn't sound very decentralized.today i had my first remote follow and it was glorious.i have a deck describing an idea but after a long conversation with another person today i need to re-do sections of it.
(DIR) Post #AWeLsmmQR5nFbzM05A by Natureshadow@floss.social
2023-06-13T08:30:51Z
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@pinkyfloyd @helge @smallcircles @liaizon I say we need more people joining work on projects like #Vocata, that separate UI from content and allow using the same identity for as many different UIs as you want.To make a viable tech demo, we need someone to help with implementation of a demo web client to drive things forward (it's very clear how to do it, but I cannot do all the work alone, someone who enjoys translating ideas into JavaScript is needed)
(DIR) Post #AWeLsnSbuFXNip5gps by liaizon@social.wake.st
2023-06-13T10:29:17Z
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@Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @helge @smallcircles reminded of what @lrhodes was recently talking about over here https://merveilles.town/@lrhodes/110531681973739369 and is quite similar to something I recently posting about (tagging @bengo cause they were in the discussion)The more types of specific activities we make work in the fediverse the more flexible we need to make the interfaces we use to interact with these things. I think design mockups that are not trying to mimic existing platforms are the next step to take.
(DIR) Post #AWeLsoFAzgNy9RoTXE by misc@mastodon.social
2023-06-13T12:46:27Z
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@liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo I’m starting to be more aware of a fundamental philosophical tension here. On one hand, an idea that content is fungible. Text is text, images are images. A subscription is a follow is a friend. On the other: a humanism that bristles at this kind of decontextualization. Communities and relationships are about mutuality and shared context.
(DIR) Post #AWeLsq5K9Hh1rTDdSK by misc@mastodon.social
2023-06-13T12:58:22Z
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@liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo I don’t think it should be one or the other, but we have to keep aware of the tradeoffs. As we make things increasingly freeform on the sender and recipient side, we lose the sense of discrete communities with shared understandings.
(DIR) Post #AWeLsr2sZrKcqB5CHg by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-06-13T13:23:27Z
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@misc @liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo the fedi is about attention democracy.everything is a post on our own domains. they should automatically flow ala microblogging. comments should be handled ala the threadiverse. apps/servers that do different things will help the transition but imo they will only survive long-term as different interfaces for dedicated creators. consumption will be pretty standardized.we can do what big social cannot.
(DIR) Post #AWeLss52jIem3B6RIO by misc@mastodon.social
2023-06-13T13:11:45Z
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@liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo I think all of the following come back in some way to this tension: UX roughness of Friendica groups or Lemmy/kbin posts on Mastodon timelines; people not understanding the point of character limits and seeing them as nuisances; chronic cultural collisions over race, gender, and US-centrism; heated debates over quotes, search, and Meta.
(DIR) Post #AWeesWyv4Yzfk6n2H2 by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-06-13T16:50:50.301055Z
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@wjmaggos @misc @liaizon @Natureshadow @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo not really.once you put something out there publicly it's really out of your hands.we can do our best to try to minimize this effect but it's truly out of everyone's control for the most part.
(DIR) Post #AWeesXmY62h0E20fdA by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-06-13T16:56:22Z
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@pinkyfloyd @Natureshadow @bengo @misc @lrhodes @smallcircles @liaizon sure but making content originally part of the fedi gives you your best shot.
(DIR) Post #AWegGYDsD2jMUpnmUK by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-06-13T17:02:11.171181Z
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@wjmaggos @Natureshadow @bengo @misc @lrhodes @smallcircles @liaizon again, i disagree there.Big Social isn't really "using" your data per se, they are just doing what you asked them to do with it. if anything Big Social makes it harder to steal content, from what i've seen thus far.to me, no matter who you gift your content online, you're pretty much making a gift to the internet with it. you can put up a wall that will stop honest people but that's true of everything.
(DIR) Post #AWegGaQM1bu1K7emDg by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-06-13T17:11:55Z
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@pinkyfloyd @Natureshadow @bengo @misc @lrhodes @smallcircles @liaizon I'm not really concerned about stealing content, although a federated version of Patreon that automatically distributed money and ended paywalls and advertising would be awesome. what's best about it living on your domain as a creator is staying part of the conversation and developing community. the only reason this isn't normal (and life online doesn't feel more fulfilling) is because big social deprecated the open web.
(DIR) Post #AWeiIJvOXXNudh88Js by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-06-13T17:16:49.163509Z
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@wjmaggos @Natureshadow @bengo @misc @lrhodes @smallcircles @liaizon big social didn't deprecate the open web, they just offered users free slot machines on the internet as an alternative to looking at html pages with jpgs and gifs.they turned users back into consumers.
(DIR) Post #AWeiILS2rd61NFPiqm by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-06-13T17:34:40Z
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@pinkyfloyd @Natureshadow @bengo @misc @lrhodes @smallcircles @liaizon they used FOSS to build walled gardens composed of our own content on top of a network held together with open protocols.
(DIR) Post #AWejOPwRBMrCzY5a6a by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-06-13T17:38:14.985795Z
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@wjmaggos @Natureshadow @bengo @misc @lrhodes @smallcircles @liaizon "no matter who you gift your content online, you're pretty much making a gift to the internet with it"foss is content
(DIR) Post #AWejOZnaX7ijZ01ehU by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-06-13T17:46:58Z
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@pinkyfloyd @Natureshadow @bengo @misc @lrhodes @smallcircles @liaizonand when treated well by others, they chose to be assholes. it's appropriate to be pissed about that.