Post AWRXG3C1ogIeeIzNh2 by killyourfm@layer8.space
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(DIR) Post #AWRNV0PRRuSeolktzU by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T07:10:20Z
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And here's why the HP Dev One (it was a #Linux laptop that shipped with Pop OS ootb) with its 16GB of RAM just wasn't cutting it for me. And I'm not even a developer. I'm just over here doing marketing and community management stuff!
(DIR) Post #AWRNh7GtlGrHZkXBRI by wiredfire@mas.to
2023-06-07T07:12:30Z
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@killyourfm *laughs in 8GB RAM* š That said much as a technologist as I am, my actual hardware needs are fairly light right now. Lighter now Iām off Windows, heh
(DIR) Post #AWRNloZOilYz1OQZAu by teivel@mas.to
2023-06-07T07:13:23Z
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@killyourfm Wow, whenever I get close to that usage (my system only has 24GiB of RAM), it's because I wrote a memory leak (or allocated too much memory).
(DIR) Post #AWRNtbRHQR3mc5LP4y by Ne10@mastodon.online
2023-06-07T07:14:46Z
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@killyourfm Then this thing must be playing with itself or constantly calling home.
(DIR) Post #AWROGKX0SBqMprrN7g by normjess@tech.lgbt
2023-06-07T07:18:52Z
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@killyourfmthe RAM doubling for regular consumers begins again
(DIR) Post #AWROHOv3coIYjZcVm4 by teivel@mas.to
2023-06-07T07:14:15Z
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@killyourfm What does marketing and community management entail that uses so much RAM? A bunch of browser tabs? Electron applications?
(DIR) Post #AWROHbVIpsQBlSfcw4 by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T07:19:02Z
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@teivel I'm running about 30 browser tabs (Firefox), Thunderbird (with 4 accounts), ProtonMail Bridge, Element, Slack, Joplin...and that's about it. Strangely, KDE's System Monitor doesn't come close to accounting for all this RAM usage at the moment...
(DIR) Post #AWROJpTzpjNDhN7X3g by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T07:19:33Z
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@normjess My wife has a company laptop (Windows!) with only 8GB and I don't understand how she even does her job.
(DIR) Post #AWROY6Hs9SWjs3FqWu by normjess@tech.lgbt
2023-06-07T07:22:05Z
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@killyourfm some people just aren't ready for more than one program/browser window running at a time š
(DIR) Post #AWROqwWSgGCb5X3zQe by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T07:25:29Z
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UPDATE: Ummmm WHAT?
(DIR) Post #AWRP6yQ7OPkHbhjxXk by Jojonintendo@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T07:28:24Z
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@killyourfm @kde Sounds like an indexer, but this is probably cache anyway.
(DIR) Post #AWRPJijx0D0ujz5x8S by horkrvkz@freeradical.zone
2023-06-07T07:30:35Z
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@killyourfm @kde That's not right...
(DIR) Post #AWRQ9iYOwLQ5DmUFjk by Deviation@mastodon.online
2023-06-07T07:40:05Z
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@killyourfm I am just a simple Linux user. I have been told by a Linux "expert" that on Linux memory management is complicated and different than windows. It mostly uses memory like " just in case I need all this memory ". Something like that. I too often see full memory usage even though I hardly use any heavy program. Besides that everything runs smoothly so it should all be ok. Sometimes my ram reading even differs depending on the method I use. Too difficult for me.
(DIR) Post #AWRQC0Ga3XXSjdF1fs by thingsiplay@mstdn.games
2023-06-07T07:40:32Z
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@killyourfm @kde Yes the baloo is a service in KDE and its known to be not working correctly. A few years back when I researched, no one was working on this program. It's the file indexer for the KDE search functionalities. When I was using KDE, I ended up disabling and removing baloo. Not only takes it so much memory, it also used one of my 8 threads of 4 real cores to be almost always 100% working.Just websearch for something like "baloo ram memoryleak too much" and such. It's common problem
(DIR) Post #AWRQUuimteU32VS6M4 by pak0st@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T07:43:55Z
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@killyourfm @kde favourite quirk - Baloo can grind a system to a halt if you forget to mark a directory to be ignored from indexing (especially if that dir is filled with lots of small files)
(DIR) Post #AWRRYkKpYSlzwHdbjk by lecroix74@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T07:55:48Z
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@killyourfm @kde time to move away from KDE,maybe? :gnome:
(DIR) Post #AWRScSPIFj2hRt3hJ2 by gnuGeek@mastodon.social
2023-06-07T08:07:43Z
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@killyourfm @kde I've had this too for the first few days my PC was sluggish and almost unusable, and it would crash on a certain folder of photos every time without fail
(DIR) Post #AWRU5Hzq8b7NVsStY8 by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T08:24:09Z
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@thingsiplay @kde Thank you for the knowledge, kind stranger! Maybe my morning won't end in frustration and laptop-chucking!
(DIR) Post #AWRUAI1JTcUd2DXRsu by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T08:24:58Z
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@pak0st @kde It's so strange, I've never seen this specific behavior before, but I've used various implementations of KDE for 3 years.
(DIR) Post #AWRUPlBlJLfjqKnpoW by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T08:27:50Z
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@lecroix74 @kde But I love my Plasma!
(DIR) Post #AWRUdNowzOVdQHd34a by pak0st@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T08:30:13Z
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@killyourfm @kde my bet would be towards a change in your habits && usage of the system.
(DIR) Post #AWRVAxBaWW6wf7E0m0 by teivel@mas.to
2023-06-07T08:36:18Z
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@killyourfm that doesn't sound right, afaik that shouldn't use that much RAM...Have you tried things like Franz and Ferdium, they are embedded chromium Browsers for things like slack, WhatsApp and discord; electron Apps with a web equivalent, gets you most of 5h3 way to a desktop app without needing multiple instances of electron, and as a bonus, they don't share cookies/information afaik.
(DIR) Post #AWRVlwApFYxgElVHQu by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T08:42:58Z
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@teivel We solved it deeper in the thread. Apparently it's KDE's indexing service, which can be safely disabled or even removed. But wow, what a RAM hog...
(DIR) Post #AWRVpKyNVHNS1GIopE by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T08:43:39Z
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@gnuGeek @kde Now that I know it can safely be disabled or even removed, I'm feeling better about things. But wow, that's a rather nasty bug.
(DIR) Post #AWRWNKTlqTQmKmC8mW by teivel@mas.to
2023-06-07T08:49:47Z
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@killyourfm I saw it after typing that comment, glad you solved it!My experience with krunner was; I saw a friend using Spotlight on their Mac, thought: I'm sure Linux has something similar, found krunner, it started indexing the whole system, stopped krunner, never used it again.After that I switched to i3 and got used to dmenu then rofi, and realized I just wanted something to search for apps, so I never needed file indexing at all...Only if you keep files organized tho
(DIR) Post #AWRWdWsHWlb3PXNtNQ by baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T08:52:40Z
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@killyourfm @kde You just unlocked in my memory the reason I stopped using plasma a few years ago, this service was eating ram like crazy
(DIR) Post #AWRX4fNe0k6BbszgmW by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T08:57:34Z
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@baldpolnareffart @kde Fortunately it can be pretty easily disabled or just removed. Which is a relief!
(DIR) Post #AWRXCYNtuBrKEHsIZU by baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T08:59:02Z
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@killyourfm @kde I might just switch to KDE if Plasma 6 meets all my expectations. For now I don't feel pressured to leave GNOME, it just works fine
(DIR) Post #AWRXG3C1ogIeeIzNh2 by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T08:59:41Z
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@baldpolnareffart @kde Gnome IS fantastic, just not as easily customizable. Pretty much the only reason I don't use it.
(DIR) Post #AWRe0U8qYNdDH61f1c by ProfessorCode@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T10:15:15Z
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@killyourfm Is that Fedora KDE? š¤
(DIR) Post #AWReh0IDPHOH9UgMb2 by lazarus@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T10:22:59Z
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@killyourfm @thingsiplay @kde Absolutely. Both indexers (Gnome and KDE) are better turned off. If you want a reasonable solution, Iād recommend Recoll.
(DIR) Post #AWRfITgf5AEP20zBiK by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T10:29:46Z
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@ProfessorCode It's actually Nobara KDE, so very very close.
(DIR) Post #AWRiBVjHOHkdCVa0rQ by matbme@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T11:02:03Z
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@killyourfm @kde I remember having a similar problem a long time ago. I ended up fixing it by removing some directories from Krunner indexing. Apparently it struggles with large directories
(DIR) Post #AWRiLuqgqrvW0H0XSa by tivasyk@mastodon.social
2023-06-07T11:04:00Z
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@killyourfm free memory is wasted memory. please, read up on how #linux manages memory? hint: if you had 128 gb, you'd also had it almost completely used if your uptime is in days, ā that's normal and expected.
(DIR) Post #AWRj9jsxt4AyTqpTMm by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-06-07T11:12:59Z
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@tivasyk I understand the concept, but I reject the result. You need SOME memory so you system doesn't grind to a halt. In this case, it was the KDE indexer using nearly 20GB of RAM, which is completely unexpected and unnaceptable, you know?
(DIR) Post #AWRkn8Kz0dcRZ4Hbkm by tivasyk@mastodon.social
2023-06-07T11:31:19Z
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@killyourfm and what _is_ the result? is your system freezing? is your swap filled up? if not, then the memory manager does it's job just fine.baloo indexer is known to use a lot or memory, but try running another memory hungry app besides it and it will give up a lot of it back at the memory manager's request, try it.good news is you can disable baloo ;-) bad news? you won't like _that_ memory taken up by chrome, it's less willing to free it up ;-)
(DIR) Post #AWRl57XchxFAJ9lwky by mah@fosstodon.org
2023-06-07T11:34:32Z
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@killyourfm @kde the first thing I do for years on new plasma installs is to run$ balooctl disableThat memory leak has been around for a minimum of 6 years. Granted "tracker" on GNOME can be rough sometimes but it recovers and doesn't hit the same absurd levels as baloo.
(DIR) Post #AWRuaeXkxKJZE7wf0y by tivasyk@mastodon.social
2023-06-07T13:21:07Z
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@killyourfm so, you've disabled the kde indexer and (hopefully?) continue to run the system without reboot. how much free memory does the same tool report now? care to share another screenshot? ;-)@baldpolnareffart @kde