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(DIR) Post #AWOVeSgHvBRlGZm8OW by leo@twit.social
2023-06-05T21:57:42Z
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Can't say I'm in any way excited about Vision Pro. It's tough to bet against Apple in anything -- they'll spend billions trying to create a market -- but I can't imagine any normal people buying it at $3400. As for what it might look like in 5 years I'm thinking landfill.
(DIR) Post #AWOVrdYkmprolnX9Zw by jvh@twit.social
2023-06-05T22:00:01Z
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@leo Player one isn't going to be ready at that price! But it's an interesting looking device. Maybe in another 5/10 years? Improvements in battery tech will definitely help.
(DIR) Post #AWOVtTrpnErnHzL09A by raineer@frontrange.co
2023-06-05T22:00:22Z
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@leo If we have this in 5 years, around $1500 (maybe an integrated battery by that time) - it could be a useful product and sell in decent volume.They did a hell of a job technologically one-upping the entire market. I think this is the sink-or-swim moment for AR/VR market as a whole.Give it a year, let everyone else copy from Apple, and see what the "story" is to normal consumers then. I feel like Apple was the first headset maker to even attempt to tell a non-techie person why they need a headset on their face. I thought it was mildly successful, but the price isn't there yet.
(DIR) Post #AWOVvqUAfaHc1AOgAi by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-06-05T22:00:52Z
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@leo If the economy was in a better place and the battery life was far longer, I could definitely see it catching on and being successful.I really liked it and kinda want it, or something like it, to be honest, BUT it more or less seems like a neat device with an unjustifiable price tag.On another note, I think the naming of #VisionPro is intentional, and I wonder how long until there will be a cheaper Vision Air version of this device available to the public
(DIR) Post #AWOWDjHQCO26slxelc by austinphilp@techhub.social
2023-06-05T22:04:02Z
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@leo They're selling it as a sort of tablet replacement, but pricing it at the cost of a high end desktop, that's gonna be a hard sell for most people. Frankly I don't get this obsession that Meta and now Apple have with trying to turn VR/AR into a computer replacment. There's little/no benefit to using a headset over a computer and it's a hell of a lot less convenient
(DIR) Post #AWOWGLoftOtEyolV5c by mojo@newsie.social
2023-06-05T22:04:30Z
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@leo yep. I was in the room when Steve Jobs introduced the Lifesaver-color iMacs in 1999. The excitement for an Apple ski goggle is um, not there at all.
(DIR) Post #AWOWO18ceq5DAEkdd2 by randywidell@twit.social
2023-06-05T22:05:54Z
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@leo It is interesting that they made a self contained fully functional computer and basically produced the definitive AR hardware and software. I think the fact that it is a self contained desktop computer is a bit of game changer for AR tech. …but, yeah, still can’t see myself wearing goggles to work in Excel, use FaceTime, look at panoramic photos, or watch movies.
(DIR) Post #AWOWj7rAsCuY5BegfQ by Grantkc75@twit.social
2023-06-05T22:09:42Z
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@leo I will wait until you buy one before I even think about buying it.
(DIR) Post #AWOXhhYbGjnqBFqtBA by Karoli@crooklyn.social
2023-06-05T22:20:41Z
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@leo The new MB Air got me, but there’s no way I’m spending 3500 on those glasses until they give me X-ray vision or something.
(DIR) Post #AWOY2Su2wofeoSmgmu by Techronic9876@sigmoid.social
2023-06-05T22:24:25Z
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@leo if you moores law it, in 3 years it will be cheaper than an iPhone
(DIR) Post #AWOYBIgWJ9SljCfcmm by tcely@fosstodon.org
2023-06-05T22:26:02Z
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@leo I didn't check... How do you charge this device?
(DIR) Post #AWOYD0rrWRWF34nBBI by vanitalo@mstdn.social
2023-06-05T22:26:21Z
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@leo I can see how this is a massive precursor to what Glass could become. The price of entry is far to high for the average consumer right now. Apple needs to offer a hardware “subscription” for the headset to make it more affordable to the masses at this stage.In Australia I estimate this thing will cost close to $7,000 to buy (with prescription lenses), that’s an absurd price for something I’d want to upgrade every year to get the new technology advances.
(DIR) Post #AWOZdzR13f9KNRf8mu by hasanahmsd@twit.social
2023-06-05T22:42:24Z
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@leo hands on seem to be very impressed
(DIR) Post #AWOZil8TeICLTfGVzE by cpekruhn@mastodon.world
2023-06-05T22:43:14Z
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@leo Not sure I agree with your assessment. Typically, new categories tech products start at the high end and work their way to being competitively priced for consumers. There was a time people balked at the idea of paying for home PCs. Adjusted prices had many of those early machines in the $10,000+ range. I’m willing to wait and see where Apple takes this.
(DIR) Post #AWOcbTJDpUKq1ZVY1Y by thurrott@twit.social
2023-06-05T23:15:34Z
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@leo Those Atari catridges and Lisa computers are getting lonely after all.
(DIR) Post #AWOdGEtQKhnBBcsdmq by phillycodehound@masto.ai
2023-06-05T23:22:55Z
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@leo yea that's a crazy price.
(DIR) Post #AWOdP098Wu0C3bPMAK by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-06-05T23:24:32Z
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@leo More like a museum after people got punched for being #Glasshole|s!
(DIR) Post #AWOdZjsVM4QKmskTho by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2023-06-05T23:26:30.236562Z
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@phillycodehound @leo Personal Computers when they first came out cost the equivalent of $3500 in the late 1970s. But there was something quite transformative about them and even then they could only really be afforded by the super rich and businesses. This is probably what Tim Cook is betting on. Remember Google’s Augmented Reality glasses? Those were actually cool and all they did was create a new race of “glassholes”. The Apple product looks like a mask I’d wear to go snorkeling in the Bahamas. Google Glass users were “glassholes” because people thought they were spying on them. How long before Apple users are turned into “maskholes” for looking like douchbag for wearing something like that in public? Bet they’re great for porn though.
(DIR) Post #AWOdiyygaGpoDz30OO by simont@infosec.exchange
2023-06-05T23:28:09Z
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@leo This is the best comment I have seen about the Vision Pro: I can't tell if the Apple VisionPro will be like the iPad, where I didn't see the point until I actually got one, or Google Glass, where I didn't see the point once I actually got one.
(DIR) Post #AWOeHPJ1Ch5Hj0yNMG by bouncing@twit.social
2023-06-05T23:34:22Z
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@leo Longevity is a really good point. Macs, the longest lasting Apple products, don’t really get updates long enough for me to be really comfortable.
(DIR) Post #AWOebzzKWr6fHkaBSi by geoffreysperl@mastodon.social
2023-06-05T23:38:04Z
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@leo The rumor was they don’t expect actual consumers to buy it at that point, just devs. Then the Vision will come out at a lower price point later. I’m betting get the AR eyeglass frames soon thereafter, but they want the devs on this first.
(DIR) Post #AWOfZ20ydb8EejVBAG by JohnD@twit.social
2023-06-05T23:48:45Z
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@leo I can buy a LARGE screen tv to compete with the googles for less.
(DIR) Post #AWOfcGNvfMKO5pmKhs by tommyontrip@twit.social
2023-06-05T23:49:15Z
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@leo I think Apple changed from Insanely Great to Greatly Insane 😃
(DIR) Post #AWOgHstLP6RpOOJqro by kaibae@sfba.social
2023-06-05T23:56:51Z
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@leo We all know that AR is an inevitability.Practically every sci-fi movie ever has smart glasses or contacts in some way. This topic has never really been a question of why, but rather when. It seems Apple is making a play that they think now is the time to put a stake in the ground regarding AR in a space they see as technologically possible at scale within a few years.They are paying now to define the bare minimum standards for the technology that all other competitors will eventually have to minimally meet to simply enter the market.The play they are making is the timing - ultimately the question will be was it too soon or just right?
(DIR) Post #AWOgoUtxcSNUXq9tYG by leo@twit.social
2023-06-06T00:02:46Z
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@Karoli Yeah I bought the 15" Air even though I don't need it. I just want to upgrade from my 13" M2 Air.
(DIR) Post #AWOgx7kD5RSxKWiA88 by Karoli@crooklyn.social
2023-06-06T00:04:19Z
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@leo same. I have the 13” and the 15” looks great. Also mine is intel based and I wanted the M2
(DIR) Post #AWOi8vj1hPUxTzLpaq by TVPaulD@mastodon.social
2023-06-06T00:17:38Z
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@leo I don’t think they’re pitching it as mainstream. Starting with a “Pro” model sort of implies an intent to later create a more mainstream option, no?
(DIR) Post #AWOiLK8Qlo9SfB8xoe by MikeMilzz@twit.social
2023-06-06T00:19:53Z
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@leo I can’t wait to get one Wish the price was $2500 or less but I really want something like this in my life Teenage son immediately asked if I’m getting one when he heard about it because he can’t wait to use itWife asked if I’d ordered one yet because she knew I would be onboard I’m thinking this will be a small group of owners at first but I expect other devs to come up with some great use cases given the hardware…we shall see…
(DIR) Post #AWOjPyA3zkcTungc1g by phillycodehound@masto.ai
2023-06-06T00:27:23Z
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@gme @leo agreed. I think it's just too steep! @leo will get one tho! LOL
(DIR) Post #AWOpShS7AqhWgfoaDA by kevinlovestech@mstdn.ca
2023-06-06T01:39:40Z
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@leo The iPhone didn't need to create a market. The existing market was desperate for it. That's the way to do it.As they say, this is a solution without a problem. Even if it's better than FB's effort, so what?
(DIR) Post #AWOsT49X4gcExAzOz2 by jamonbull@mastodon.social
2023-06-06T02:13:20Z
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@leo You were right.
(DIR) Post #AWOy5AaM6dibg9WZ7o by eviltofu@kopiti.am
2023-06-06T03:16:15Z
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@leo I'm hoping for a cheaper version that I can plug into my laptop/desktop and then use Xcode and do shared programming/design with my team. If it were much cheaper and if it facilitates collaboration with its infinite screen space, I think there is a market for it.
(DIR) Post #AWP2S6H0hhK0mZfJ7Q by adacosta@twit.social
2023-06-06T04:05:11Z
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@leo I always jump in at rev 3 anyway. So, 2026 or 2027 is looking like my year. I know you are gonna cave Leo. I recommend you buy two and keep one in the box you can sell at auction for lots a more in 2045.
(DIR) Post #AWPcdA1wfkEPyCByOO by blabberlicious@econtwitter.net
2023-06-06T10:50:33Z
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@leo I’ll wait for the #Apple VisionSE
(DIR) Post #AWPgZApe9KmT79nH9c by tachyonxero@twit.social
2023-06-06T11:34:39Z
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@leo I am interested to see what 3rd party developers do with it. That, in the end will be what will make or break this product.
(DIR) Post #AWPrI7Y4Cg53VHdrzk by paulskUK@twit.social
2023-06-06T13:34:52Z
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@leo I can't imagine any normal person wearing a pair of ski goggles with animated googly eyes attached to a burrito in their pocket at any price!
(DIR) Post #AWQ2nWFzUFuKbmMU7c by GQB@newsie.social
2023-06-06T15:43:46Z
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@leo C’mon Leo. You paid over $7k for your first Mac, with less power than my new microwave. https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-vision-pro-first-take-3-reasons-this-changes-everything/?fbclid=IwAR1dtfj-7VaZQJ1NT131f9CIKcbDZ9kqDQGR104iidEh9RsRqJlQB7LMqSU
(DIR) Post #AWQGXbHMRi4SuQJ2GG by PineappleFluff@mas.to
2023-06-06T18:17:47Z
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@leo $3500 isn’t the mass market price. Give it 2-3 generations and a non-Pro model before passing judgement on the viability of this product.
(DIR) Post #AWQOrSEMb2PcGrskRU by Jens_T@mastodon.social
2023-06-06T19:51:01Z
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@leo On the other hand … https://youtu.be/eywi0h_Y5_U
(DIR) Post #AWQSIz8QfP300FvRj6 by Iamcdn28@hometech.social
2023-06-06T20:29:36Z
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@leo We all know your history. You will be try to buy as soon as it’s released online. Then send someone down to try and buy it at an Apple store on the first day.
(DIR) Post #AWQxjjjt75KSeSgOPY by kirby@twit.social
2023-06-07T02:21:46Z
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@leo I’ll take that bet. It will take off the same way Apple Watch did — slowly, then all at once.
(DIR) Post #AWR1SEHJEMvlyGDrSC by drab@home.social
2023-06-07T03:03:27Z
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@leo I honestly think this thing is unhealthy. I’m glad you’re providing a more critical take on it.
(DIR) Post #AWR5JoqKJWvcaKqZHs by btaroli@federate.social
2023-06-07T03:46:44Z
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@leo there are hundreds of old Lisa’s waiting for trendy eyewear in Utah. Might have to dig down a bit to reach them though.
(DIR) Post #AWRea5LaDUBEnhxUmm by iestynx@typo.social
2023-06-07T10:21:51Z
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@leo I love grouchy Leo😆 Amazing on MacBreak how much you’re against this. But what I’ve learned over the past 12 years is, if Leo buys it, a new one will be out within a month. If Leo hates it, the kids will love it. 😉
(DIR) Post #AWV6LALoi7mSAOccxE by Solorzano@mstdn.social
2023-06-09T02:17:00Z
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@leo still mad at Apple for getting yelled at during the keynote all those years ago?
(DIR) Post #AWZ78AFIfR0Cf8mHSK by freediverx@mastodon.social
2023-06-11T00:44:11Z
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@leo
(DIR) Post #AWaYzSKZ3BjU1Jpsye by Robbylowejr@twit.social
2023-06-11T17:31:29Z
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@leo you and me both I’ll wait a two or three years and get the SE model
(DIR) Post #AWikAA3JAQoM8wkidk by GreatGreyFalcon@mas.to
2023-06-15T16:14:29Z
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@leo my take: Vision Pro v1 isn’t intended for‘consumers’, it’s for developers (so they can create the apps) and ‘pro users’ (who will use those apps)The follow up to Vision Pro will be the consumer version, which will then have a bunch of apps that leverage the new platform. Once those numbers start to rise, there will be more apps developed (echoing the iPhone and the App Store)