Post AWML5rfjcqSAmWSdyy by MrAnthrope@noagendasocial.com
 (DIR) More posts by MrAnthrope@noagendasocial.com
 (DIR) Post #AWI82mpj5GA0rwUqo4 by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-02T20:04:57Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       What is the purpose of circumcision? I have a theory. In the first place,1. It's genital mutilation2. It's pre-verbal trauma, probably the worst kind, and it is the first thing that happens in one's lifeIceland considers banning circumcision, the ADL threatens that they will use their connections to associate Iceland with Nazism (which they admit is a lie) and destroy their economy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWIArYUSN1hz3tss4G by LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz
       2023-06-02T20:36:32.271317Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno Unless you’re castrating a young man when you circumcise him, no it’s not. FGM has a single purpose: to deny the woman pleasure.You can make the argument that circumcision is wrong without false equivalency.Circumcision is likely an Egyptian rite the ancient Israelis adopted, and the rite itself is symbolic castration, probably derived from real castration priests did in times in or before the Stone Age.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWINkRrltloNtYjNXE by MrAnthrope@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-02T22:43:52Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @LostInCalifornia @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno I am not claiming which one is worse, but male circumcision became popular in America specifically to deny men pleasure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWINkSpgJ1jYtMlDuq by LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz
       2023-06-02T23:00:54.927180Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MrAnthrope @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno One is castration. The other is a false equivalent, which prevent clear messaging and effective action on the prevention of the first, since opposition to the the second runs into opposition from thousands of years on cultural religious tradition and is mainly cosmetic. They cut out the clitoris, sand the sides of the labia together and sew them shut so that they fuse together in some FGM practices. The husband will rip it open on her wedding night, and sometimes demand she be sewn back together.Yeah, that’s just “as bad” as cutting off a flap. Bye.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWIlOWEzLrCBzWfOFc by Sir_Fromgar@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-03T03:25:52Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Nazareno @MountainJay so, typically circumcision is cosmetic surgery.  Usually religious or cultural.  Painful, yes; so is smacking a baby’s butt, suctioning fluid from their nostrils, drawing blood, ear piercing before they can talk, and mistakes with toenail clippers.  It’s a tad hard to pinpoint pain levels.  Go visit a NICU.1. It isn’t, unless done .. maliciously?2. It’s like the 16th painful thing, often a few days after being born.  Been done for thousands of years making #2 specious.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWIlgBoe1tLZrClpLs by Nazareno@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-03T03:29:04Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sir_Fromgar @MountainJay OK, talked me into it. I'll call my doctor and get mine scheduled
       
 (DIR) Post #AWIopY6qoMeHT6ROIS by Sir_Fromgar@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-03T04:04:22Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Nazareno @MountainJay I’m curious if they numb you up first.  It would be a poignant time to ask why days old boys aren’t numbed up first.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWIpNOgWMHmC5HGVAe by Sir_Fromgar@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-03T04:10:29Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MrAnthrope @LostInCalifornia @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno interesting take.  You won’t say what’s worse, but then supply a terrible sounding reason.Never was taking away pleasure from my boys a considered reason TO circumcise them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWIpuOGMwoYSKelVSq by Sir_Fromgar@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-03T04:16:27Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno just so we’re clear here, is this pre-18 MGM only, or all MGM?  So no more bars piercing penises, even if they’re of-age?  No more vasectomies?  No removing of testicular cancer if they’re under 18?  No more Jewish religious customs?See, the problems with legislating hard lines are the fringe cases.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWJTwDWJr8xPlAeSki by MrAnthrope@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-03T11:44:59Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sir_Fromgar @LostInCalifornia @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno I never said that *you* did it to take away pleasure. I don't know anything about you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWMDGfj9ZqzRHshbsm by Sir_Fromgar@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-04T19:22:20Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MrAnthrope @LostInCalifornia @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno I mean, indirectly, yes, I am reducing the pleasure.  That is the stated purpose and allows better focus on family and God, away from hedonism.  I’m not sure how it’s measured, but “deny” is a stretch.My point was to question how many atheists do it for the sole reason of reducing pleasure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWML5rfjcqSAmWSdyy by MrAnthrope@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-04T20:50:01Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Sir_Fromgar @LostInCalifornia @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno I suspect that current application of circumcision is as closely tied to its original intent as is saying bless you, wearing neckties, and shaking hands with the right hand instead of left, all of exyvhi do but am fuzzy on the origins of.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWMNIGBgVIPwCKRYlk by Sir_Fromgar@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-04T21:14:40Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @MrAnthrope @LostInCalifornia @ff8b76609f545257e470f1817f0a42defd69cbc902757cc7f79a4988a13c17be @Nazareno I have quite a different suspicion.  I really don’t ask many other fathers, but those who know of it’s original purpose are generally 100% behind it.  The number of people who still attend church has significantly dropped off in the US.