Post AWKk7hEDXGSlVXdkVE by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
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(DIR) Post #AWJwxR5PnhgOnK077I by slothrop@chaos.social
2023-06-03T13:14:20Z
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It seems that some parents worry about how to explain the existence of gay and trans people to their kids.It’s trivially easy.“Sometimes, men love men. Sometimes, women love women. Sometimes, people find out that although they have a man’s body, they’d be happier living as a woman - or the other way around. All these people deserve to be happy and respected, just like you.”And that’s really all there is to it. #pridemonth #pride
(DIR) Post #AWJwxT5qL5DJ1EDU3s by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T17:10:07Z
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@slothropI agree. But also, people have the right to speak as they please, even if it contradicts with trans people's feelings of being a different gender.@bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWJwxTzqyq15owQDMe by slothrop@chaos.social
2023-06-03T15:41:09Z
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Kids, unless they’re seriously bent out of shape, have a strong sense of fairness. They’re also always busy learning about how the world works.They instinctively understand that all people should have the same rights, even when they’re somehow “different”.And kids know that everyone is a little different (or a lot). It’s just how things are. Gay and trans people are just one more kind of “different”, and all kinds are fine.
(DIR) Post #AWJwxVl2QtM1HZVPY8 by slothrop@chaos.social
2023-06-03T15:46:51Z
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A while ago I was talking with my 13yo about #trans people and gender. After getting the basics out of the way, we quickly agreed that that having just the two traditional (western) genders doesn’t really help us to make sense of the world we see before us.The kid just shrugged and said “well, everyone’s somewhere in between on most things, aren’t they?”And that was that.#pride #pridemonth #parenting #parents
(DIR) Post #AWJxmuPGY4b8UwpWa0 by demitasse@pleroma.narrativerry.xyz
2023-06-03T17:19:27.561895Z
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@slothrop why are you trying to raise a faggot?
(DIR) Post #AWJxuc4Yb83Hx8ojfE by demitasse@pleroma.narrativerry.xyz
2023-06-03T17:20:50.547460Z
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@nice-nigger @slothrop sometimes, you have to set her straight nigbot
(DIR) Post #AWK2nQOu5vVfUsj4rY by AUc34pg7Dq80K0xUzQ.spitfire@poster.place
2023-06-03T18:15:34.166125Z
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@slothrop #groomer#badparenting#clownworld
(DIR) Post #AWK3G6CeGgABFkfObo by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-03T18:20:43Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln
(DIR) Post #AWK4ysSUJgJzbuzWNs by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T18:40:01Z
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@lizstl13They're entitled to speak and you're entitled to think they are foolish.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWK5DT2v56bX8gzNg0 by diceynes@coolsite.win
2023-06-03T18:42:40.109685Z
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@lizstl13 @Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng Have you thought that you seem older than most people here and aren’t going to be as corrupted as the people on here having grown up in a much better environment learning to be educated.
(DIR) Post #AWK67zV5bV9Y0l7M3s by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-03T18:52:52Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng If they restrained themselves to speech, I might be inclined to tolerate their idiocy, but they have expressed a desire for genocide and taken affirmative steps to make it real. They have lost their right to speak as they choose because they choose to threaten violence.
(DIR) Post #AWK7MclKWe6ZmwFuTo by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-03T19:06:42Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng Hate speech is dangerous.
(DIR) Post #AWK8klLSMnwBJMEAAS by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T19:22:18Z
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@lizstl13How?@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWK8o8z2w4n1UfMEOO by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T19:22:52Z
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@lizstl13Also, how is it hateful to use the wrong pronoun?@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKC24Z6SZWXhsYXx2 by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-03T19:59:01Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-religion-or-belief/hate-speech-and-incitement-hatred-or-violence
(DIR) Post #AWKCAWdTygNX5CdRWi by ChristiJunior@bae.st
2023-06-03T20:00:35.878994Z
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@slothrop @slothrop >A while ago I was talking with my 13yo about #trans people and gender.Groomer piece of shit, you should have that kid taken away from you.
(DIR) Post #AWKCQiCwili9bdwQYS by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2023-06-03T20:03:30.220384Z
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@slothrop >Sometimes, people find out that although they have a man’s body, they’d be happier living as a woman Congrats retard, now your kid is going to get Cancelled by the sick freaks that you want him to hang out with, because MtF trannies will crucify you for implying that their cock and balls aren't female.Not so "trivially easy" after all, huh?
(DIR) Post #AWKCk5XMCweRSjjBbs by Hoss@shitpost.cloud
2023-06-03T20:07:00.352308Z
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Hopefully his kids all troon out or otherwise fail to procreate.
(DIR) Post #AWKDAOjpROjsXj6fzM by SchizoCynic@poa.st
2023-06-03T20:11:46.818470Z
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@slothrop "You see Bastard Jr there's a lot of sick fucks in this world. They are nothing but slaves to a whimp and will lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want. Now they will lie to you and claim it's natural but it isn't and there's no scientific evidence to back it up. They are just weaklings with no self control. They do not deserve pity, respect, or sympathy son. Only your abject hatred is what they deserve. Given the chance they will rape you so avoid them at all costs. Lesbians only exist because they couldn't get over a boy in jr high
(DIR) Post #AWKEU6s9ftWmsZxrIu by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-03T20:26:29Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng You’re such a little girl.
(DIR) Post #AWKUdiZCUp6DeuhaOu by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T23:27:32Z
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@lizstl13I find that amuses me more than offends me nowadays. But I get your point.Still, I feel like "hateful" is the wrong word. Maybe "annoying" or "offensive".@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKVXQMtLRYlQxVWka by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-03T23:37:34Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng I think you would feel differently if you felt you were being attacked.
(DIR) Post #AWKWDoLKb5p5x8zOAy by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T23:45:16Z
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@lizstl13What the fuck did you make me read?There was no answer anywhere in that hyperbolic propaganda designed to justify government censorship.I'm sorry, but "the UN said so" is not good enough. I need actual evidence.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKWK7F9EuCcJC6TK4 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T23:46:24Z
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@lizstl13Because incitement to violence? Not all hate speech is incitement to violence, and "misgendering" certainly isn't.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKWThAP2vLqKUS4OW by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T23:48:08Z
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@opendnaPlease explain how calling someone by the "wrong" pronoun constitutes a threat of violence.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKWd6q2y84SYTQ3kG by bnmng@assortedflotsam.com
2023-06-03T23:49:49Z
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@Hyolobrika @lizstl13 @slothrop Any hate speech encourages violence, especially towards someone who is a likely target
(DIR) Post #AWKXw9UVQlbiEozJJY by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T00:04:29Z
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@lizstl13I feel like you're attacking me right now. Your words are literal violence, call the cops!@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKYBsJD56tpa8CYZU by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T00:05:22Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2021/04/09/how-hateful-rhetoric-connects-to-real-world-violence/
(DIR) Post #AWKYMWcW3kVFV8JIIK by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T00:08:57Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKZTbkPUihXNtwZjE by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T00:21:43Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng Right after you explain how sending armed officers to kidnap children from parents who use the "wrong" pronoun is NOT violence.
(DIR) Post #AWKaTf0NU0IHRS09DM by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T00:32:55Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng While you're at it, you can explain how armed terrorists raiding libraries to stop story-time is "not violent".
(DIR) Post #AWKarLJyJqE9LKSWZ6 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T00:37:14Z
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@bnmngDoes saying you hate, idk, car drivers encourage violence towards them?@lizstl13 @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWKbC3NaDm2vmM1XSS by bnmng@assortedflotsam.com
2023-06-04T00:40:57Z
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@Hyolobrika @lizstl13 @slothrop I suppose in most cases you'd have to start with a vulnerable group. If there fewer drivers and there was a history of violence or discrimination against them, then sure.
(DIR) Post #AWKbEofDOEkt0YaXBI by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T00:41:28Z
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@lizstl13You don't have the right to call the cops on someone because they were mean to you. Sorry to disappoint.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKbM2IL6mePJLKaiu by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T00:42:47Z
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@opendnaFunny. I don't remember saying that.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKbUxmFH49huEZmc4 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T00:44:23Z
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@opendnaWho is doing that BTW? They deserve to die.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKcfBrjqdIaS1aOsS by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T00:57:26Z
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@opendnaNice whataboutism. But I do think children should be protected from seeing stuff like this.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWKcmcBqNChm7aWx4y by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T00:58:47Z
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@bnmngI really don't think casually using "he" to refer to a trans woman is going to cause them to get physically hurt.@lizstl13 @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWKdhSFvypsNolXyi0 by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T01:08:59Z
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@Hyolobrika @bnmng @slothrop You are choosing to ignore the pain of others. You must be so proud.
(DIR) Post #AWKeShjIGeinQ0oHcO by bnmng@assortedflotsam.com
2023-06-04T01:17:29Z
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@Hyolobrika @lizstl13 @slothrop I think it could. If you insult a person who is vulnerable, you encourage those who would attack. In some cases, refusal to accommodate someone is warranted. But not in a case of a person who just wants you to respect how they feel
(DIR) Post #AWKh0BjDxAGPvHs65o by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T01:46:03Z
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@lizstl13You think I don't get emotionally hurt?Dumb fucks online hurt my feelings constantly. Still don't want them locked away.@bnmng @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWKhMEA3aZNfq4voZ6 by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T01:19:37Z
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@bnmng @Hyolobrika @slothrop Hyo just doesn’t give AF what other people need. He is arrogant and selfish.
(DIR) Post #AWKhMEpB7gH3tcAef2 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T01:50:02Z
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@lizstl13I do care about people's feelings (when they care about mine). I just don't think it's right for the state to punish people for not caring.@bnmng @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWKhMKteXxQ0jEJJT6 by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T01:50:02Z
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@Hyolobrika @bnmng @slothrop It’s a shame you haven’t learned empathy.
(DIR) Post #AWKiEUvtRsTXUbBWAS by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T01:59:51Z
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@bnmng>If you insult a person who is vulnerable, you encourage those who would attack.That's bullshit. No one is going to see me misgender someone and attack them because of it. You made that up.>But not in a case of a person who just wants you to respect how they feelI got into an argument with one once. They said respecting pronouns should be made mandatory. Between them and the trans people on fedi who talk about forcing transitions (albeit maybe as a deadpan joke), I think a lot of them are just sad that they're not the oppressor (to the degree that they'd like).@lizstl13 @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWKiOcvaZtNXBVs8si by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T02:01:41Z
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@lizstl13It's a shame you haven't learned justice.@bnmng @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWKiV8R4LV10dqhTOq by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T02:02:50Z
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@Hyolobrika @bnmng @slothrop Some bullies think their behavior is justified.
(DIR) Post #AWKk7hEDXGSlVXdkVE by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T02:21:01Z
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@Hyolobrika @bnmng @slothrop Bullies think they are above the law.
(DIR) Post #AWL6cD91dNKSAoAR4C by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T06:33:01Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng The Republican Parties of Florida and Texas, as a start. Have you been in a coma since 2016?The GOP loves the concept and is introducing copycat laws in other states. Conservative loves it so much that it's put De Santis at the front of the GOP presidential primary race.
(DIR) Post #AWLB2yut2cVpgIZhDc by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T07:22:41Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng I'm describing a pattern of terrorism which has been repeated across the US, and you're justifying that terrorism with the fantasy non-sequitur that public libraries might carry explicit indy comics.Did I expect your commitment to free speech to last longer than first contact with something you don't like? No. I did not.
(DIR) Post #AWLgvkvvpSM6orf6RM by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T13:19:58Z
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@opendna>The Republican Parties of Florida and Texas, as a start. Have you been in a coma since 2016?Have you ever considered the possibility that I might not be from Florida or Texas and therefore am not obligated to keep up with their news?Believe it or not, America isn't the whole world.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWLh8OGDRApGGWArGS by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T13:22:15Z
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@opendnaYou said "story-time", so I assumed children were involved.If adults want to look at porno, I have no problem with it.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWLhZs6YaLaQe0lCme by bnmng@assortedflotsam.com
2023-06-04T13:27:12Z
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@Hyolobrika @opendna @slothrop But the image you posted, Hyo, isn't from a book that's read to children at story time - at least not that I'm aware of
(DIR) Post #AWLiuHRoAfGQzOzoiO by bnmng@assortedflotsam.com
2023-06-04T13:42:05Z
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@Hyolobrika @opendna @slothrop Yeah, we in the US sometimes have a problem with that. But In our defense, I didn't think pronounce were such a controversy in Europe
(DIR) Post #AWLkmMtIFUa5SmCtFY by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T14:03:04Z
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@bnmngMy bad then. It was IIRC one of the books that were being removed from school libraries in Florida.@opendna @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWLmWTBRHjJ6FqF10K by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T14:05:26Z
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@bnmng @Hyolobrika @slothrop He's full of shit. Florida and Texas are in European news because the European Right uses the American Right as a model. They use US dog whistles and hire the likes Steve Bannon to consult. "Anti-Woke", anti-pronoun, "free speech" in defense of hate speech, "debate", etc.But Europe does have laws which criminalize the speech the American Right uses, and there isn't a 2nd Amendment mythology to justify violence.
(DIR) Post #AWLmWTnizNvqAa9agC by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T14:22:37Z
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@opendnaYou're full of shit. People are not obligated to learn or even care about what's going on in a foreign country, even if it is in their news, and even if it is a powerful foreign country. Hell, people are not obligated to care about what's going on in their own country.No, we do not have a 2nd amendment. But that doesn't change the fact that self-defense against government violence is justified.@bnmng @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWLmcPsOUgKHjdAW36 by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T14:23:41Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng Come on. You didn't actually believe that anyone was reading an adult *graphic novel* to kids at public libraries.
(DIR) Post #AWLnPFSC28YJbECLbM by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T14:32:30Z
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@Hyolobrika @bnmng @slothrop If it was ever in a school library, it joins the list of books banned from Texas schools along with the Harry Potter series, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, Brave New World, To Kill a Mockingbird, A Midsummer Night’s Dream, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, and, of course, Uncle Tom's Cabin.
(DIR) Post #AWLrEdi1uaOlSQnoem by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T15:15:26Z
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@opendnaI don't know anything about I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, but I agree the rest shouldn't be banned.@bnmng @slothrop
(DIR) Post #AWLrUfPdLYIhNDq9z6 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T15:18:19Z
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@opendnaI was talking about what children can and can't see more generally.It has been in school libraries in the US: https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=gender+queer+book+banned+from+us+school+library@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWLwYh8pMNaffHieu0 by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-04T16:15:03Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng Let's not muddy the meaning of "children": the target audience for "Gender Queer" is older than the age of consent in Texas.Second highest-rate of girls under 18 getting married in the country, and 9th out of 50 for teen pregnancy, but they banned a YA queer comic book from high schools "to protect the children". 🤔
(DIR) Post #AWLxsf0N72SimiqfHU by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2023-06-04T16:29:52.548031Z
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@slothrop It's not okay to tell kids it's okay to destroy your body with whoredom or infinite buttsex or tranny Frankenstein mutilation. Social liberalism as a whole is child abuse. It is the sacred duty of parents to teach children to live upright, virtuous lives in accordance with God's law, for the pathway to ruin is wide, and the pathway to salvation is narrow. #LGBTQ #Queer #Pride #PrideMonth #PrayAwayTheGay #Trans #Gay #LGBTQIAP #ChristianAnime #TheRainbowBelongsToGod #GodWins #LoveWins #Furry #FurryPride #PrideMonth2023 #HappyPride #hrt #transgender #blm #lgbtqia #FediBlock
(DIR) Post #AWLy7Vi7x06uIqObD6 by LovecraftEnthusiast@nicecrew.digital
2023-06-04T16:32:35.839000Z
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>Kids, unless they’re seriously bent out of shape, have a strong sense of fairness. They’re also always busy learning about how the world works.For someone desperately trying to enable the rape of chilren you sure know nothing about them
(DIR) Post #AWM0Hw01GUL6dirZ9E by egirlyuumimain@poa.st
2023-06-04T16:45:22.121466Z
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@LovecraftEnthusiast @slothrop As someone who has worked with kids they can be the most evil bastards imaginable. People without kids or who don't deal with them will never know
(DIR) Post #AWM0I83eQoNI2SedTU by JedDrudge@nicecrew.digital
2023-06-04T16:43:18.540158Z
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n.b. : The character "Tyrone Slothrop" in the Thomas Pynchon novel "Gravity's Rainbow" had a fetish for "subdebs", i.e. prepubescent girls... one was a twelve-year-old...
(DIR) Post #AWMaKF8EhMEOuJ6ep6 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-04T23:40:40Z
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@opendna>the target audience for "Gender Queer" is older than the age of consent in Texas.Is it? What's the target audience?Maybe Texans are being hypocritical about it, idk. I'm not supporting *everything* they do.@slothrop @bnmng
(DIR) Post #AWNNEt95uVUL1ZaHR2 by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-06-05T08:48:43Z
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@Hyolobrika @slothrop @bnmng It's not just Texas, nor just the US, and it's not hypocritical. They are loudly consistent."When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."Turns out it works the same in Russia, Italy, France, Germany, Argentina...
(DIR) Post #AWNYf99Q7nUVglSaSO by Catmama@mastodon.world
2023-06-05T10:56:44Z
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@Hyolobrika It is hateful to deliberately use the wrong pronoun after you've been told how the person wishes to be addressed.
(DIR) Post #AWNYub4aaqqydCZFvk by Catmama@mastodon.world
2023-06-05T10:59:31Z
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@Hyolobrika Why would you *casually* use "he" for someone that is identifying as a woman?
(DIR) Post #AWNeJtLMIi8KJ4IBAO by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-05T12:00:08Z
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@Catmama>How come this is true?>It is true.Okay. Lol.
(DIR) Post #AWNeVLTO3YQOjZVcFk by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-05T12:02:13Z
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@CatmamaBecause you might get it wrong?
(DIR) Post #AWR7VEPhmcOEz6xrRw by AmericanChampion@poa.st
2023-06-07T04:11:15.949716Z
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@slothrop It seems that some parents worry about how to explain the existence of gay and trans people to their kids.It’s trivially easy."Sometimes, men are rotten inside, and controlled by the devil. They feign harmlessness by dressing in bright colors, and they insist that they want to be near children all the time. If they catch you alone, they will try to touch you in weird places. The important thing to remember is that all you need to do is run away, and tell me who they are, and I will make very sure that they leave you alone forever."