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(DIR) Post #AWIh4o3P0tgdd5aloO by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T02:13:48Z
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@agilealliance You're doing a conference in Florida?You truly represent the apotheosis of "Agile".For reals, yo.You're cool with your 3,000 person venue where no one who isn't a cishet white salesperson/john man is welcome?Jesus fucking Christ.I was already estranged, I freely admit it, But this is beyond the pale.Fuck the Agile fucking Alliance. They aren't what we wanted, they never have been.
(DIR) Post #AWIh4ovHmYmwKCnnnc by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T02:16:44Z
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@agilealliance I don't give a fuck about your sunk fucking cost.Apologize, and eat the cost.You're committing a sin you'll never come back from.Your one chance, and it's slim, is to just admit that you made a mistake, ask for forgiveness, and move forward.
(DIR) Post #AWIh4pdb7oEYXdXBrs by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T02:36:14Z
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@agilealliance My trans friends will not go to Florida, not cuz they're mad, cuz they're at risk of their lives. My Black friends won't go to Florida, not cuz they're mad, cuz they're at risk of their lives. My gay and lesbian friends won't go to Florida, not cuz they're mad, cuz they're at risk for their lives.Go broke, walking away, go broke. But go broke *proud* that you cared more for humans than for a venue-deposit.
(DIR) Post #AWIh4qTM1NdN89kWXY by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:37:25Z
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@GeePawHill What about florida makes it so exceptionally dangerous for them? Not that I'm disagreeing with you, just wondering what law or whatever this is in reference to.@agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIhSCReUgeHwC5bv6 by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T02:41:41Z
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@freemo @agilealliance Well, while you been sharing your range-pictures, Florida has been outlawing abortion, outlawing being gay, and outlawing teaching young people about the history of our country.
(DIR) Post #AWIhcgzplAD3aR55RQ by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:43:35Z
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@GeePawHill Not sure what my range-pictures have to do with that? Seems a very odd opening statement.All those things sound quite concerning. What are the punishments for being gay and teaching a history class? Are they severe (though any punishment is pretty concerning).@agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIhwOM2mMTLYtrZ4q by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T02:47:08Z
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@freemo @agilealliance Yes, your range-pictures are cool, and I'm sorry I'm coming in hot. Granted.I'm not gonna cite cases. Look into recent Florida law changes, and get back to me, explaining if you can why anyone who isn't straight, white, cis, and male, would ever go there.
(DIR) Post #AWIi4aVrSUAbaSMZuK by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:48:36Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance Are you sealioning or asking someone else to do your research for you? Certainly if you are Trans you can no longer get medical support. If you are a woman who needs an abortion you can't get that. It's a third class felony to use any book that hasn't been approved by the State in your class. You can't answer questions about gender, sexuality or anything like that in class. So are you trolling or merely profoundly ignorant?
(DIR) Post #AWIi5ywQ7UVxdjS0FE by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:48:51Z
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@GeePawHill Yup, happy to look up whats been going there if you dont want to share details and then comment. If the things you said are literally illegal though, then that in and of itself already answers that question. I am simply curious what the penalty is for being gay, any penalty is already wrong enough though.@agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIiNgowEMwSeUOX1U by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:52:03Z
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@ariaflame I am neither sealioning or asking someone to do my research for me. I am engaging in a respectful discussion. A post was made saying gay/trans cant go there. I asked for why you feel that is the case, that is not sealioning nor asking you or anyone to do research.I am not trolling, nor "profoundly ignorant", not everyone keeps tabs on the day to day happenings in Florida... but congratulations on being rude to someone who is genuinely curious about your opinion, and having a desire to support you in your concerns. Quite the self-defeating approach you have going there.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIiTN54XH03ASeO2a by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:53:05Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance I just was amazed that anyone had missed all of this. It isn't exactly hidden from the news. Although if you aren't following it it could be. It's not safe because the government there is actively working against gay/trans people.
(DIR) Post #AWIiaSqPVOiD4PAtH6 by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:54:20Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance But if Sir thinks that I am being rude then I apologise to Sir. Because I would hate to do anything to make Sir unhappy.
(DIR) Post #AWIiayKcR8IOj4XxAG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:54:28Z
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@ariaflame You do realize the world is much bigger than the USA... most of us arent in the USA (I only just arrived int he USA a few days ago and have been away for years)... @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIidMgiqnuoqU1hAG by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:54:50Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance I do. I live in Australia and I've managed to keep up.
(DIR) Post #AWIieFWKz7HwuCag76 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:55:03Z
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@ariaflame Thank you, I greatly appreciate the fact that you used my desired pronouns. I appreciate the respect you are trying to show. Apology accepted.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIihzZuCTzccS2nsu by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:55:43Z
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@ariaflame Great to hear its all over the australian news. That said the places I have been dont speak english, so my access to news is rather limited.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIikKYVB61iG5VEKO by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:56:05Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance Oh, I don't watch the News here.
(DIR) Post #AWIinpZ2LSONIaQDmy by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:56:49Z
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@ariaflame What news do you watch then? Stream from the USA?@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIisniwc9KF2VQTzc by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:57:41Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance A mix from all over. But usually not watching. They take too long to come to the point.
(DIR) Post #AWIivMQKZXuZEowMYS by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T02:57:26Z
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@ariaflame @freemo @agilealliance Dafuq.So your case is that it is not technically illegal to be Black, or female, or trans, or gay, or historicaly accurate, so therefore I'm over-reacting?Sheeeeeit.I'm an old white male cishet succesful person, and I used to break sticks like you to make my fire my breakfast.
(DIR) Post #AWIivNIDLD0rvw9OXg by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:58:08Z
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@GeePawHill I think you are mistaken, they were responding to me, not you.@ariaflame @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIiytEt1PsnskGoca by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:58:03Z
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@GeePawHill @freemo @agilealliance I don't think that was meant to be replying to me... Did I misspeak?
(DIR) Post #AWIiytxYLLc07HAUF6 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:58:45Z
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@ariaflame He thought your reply to me was to him...Pro tip the first name in the list of @'s is the person being responded to.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIj1y6fNhnRqYtRpI by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T02:59:21Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance To be honest I suspect he hit the wrong reply button.
(DIR) Post #AWIj6sNs5KBrXxHTqi by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:00:15Z
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@ariaflame Maybe, but only other person he could be responding to is me... and not sure how he could get what he just said out of anything I said... I dunno@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIjAwHtVt8woOQGWG by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T03:00:55Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance You don't? Ah. That may be the problem.
(DIR) Post #AWIjEMFlQjPEDB3YdE by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T03:00:45Z
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@ariaflame @freemo @agilealliance @ariaflame cool with out-landers not grokking what's going on here.I'm sorry if I got outta hand.The situation here is very grim, and very fraught.
(DIR) Post #AWIjEMvwtt9MK0nFNw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:01:33Z
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@GeePawHill Im still getting up to speed, but it certainly sounds scary at first glance and therefore understandable you might be a bit emotional and defensive as a result.@ariaflame @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIjJqK73cuGv7hpc8 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:02:33Z
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@ariaflame I do not no.. I have expressed no opinion of anykind, just asked him, if he wanted to, to explain his concerns more... hard to see how that would warrant such a response yea.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIjTWel29viotyn5s by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T03:04:19Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance Ah, are you familiar with the terms 'jaqing' or 'sealioning'? They are tactics used by people who have no real interest in learning, but wish to disrupt or undermine information. And unfortunately your posts bore a certain similarity to such tactics. http://wondermark.com/1k62/
(DIR) Post #AWIjgNQSfF3dxMQ7xg by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:06:38Z
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@ariaflame I am aware of sealioning. In fact out of fear that someone might mistake what I said for sealioning is why I added the following qualifier to my original reply "Not that I'm disagreeing with you", that way it was quite clear and explicitly stated it was not sealioning.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIjoLbXJtRWclOwoC by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T03:06:12Z
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@ariaflame @freemo @agilealliance Sometimes an angry hurt person is just an angry hurt person.Cheers to my friend freemo, and my new acquaintance aria.Sorry to be so reactive.
(DIR) Post #AWIjoMBLAm5CPo9XcG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:08:05Z
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@GeePawHill Apology accepted, you are good. Mistakes happen especially in such a toxic environment as the internet. The fact that we worked through it is the important part.@ariaflame @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIjskAhvBC5ybwsOO by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T03:07:39Z
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@GeePawHill @freemo @agilealliance I may have been a bit overreactive also. I guess Sir just reminded me too much of certain other posts.
(DIR) Post #AWIjskkVm3pllehTCS by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:08:52Z
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@ariaflame It happens, and the apology means a lot. As I said, the internet is quite a hostile place, these misunderstandings are to be expected. the important part is how we work through them.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIjwljO47szyH5aW8 by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T03:08:32Z
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@ariaflame @freemo @agilealliance We cool. Everything is so damned complicated. :)
(DIR) Post #AWIjwmXN4HruTITVQW by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:09:37Z
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@GeePawHill It really is... half the reason i stay away from the english speaking part of the world is because of all this drama going around.@ariaflame @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIkA82qPlQuwOYong by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T03:09:39Z
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@GeePawHill @freemo @agilealliance I once went to Florida when I was 8. I would no more set foot in there at the moment than I would Saudi Arabia, or Afghanistan. And I'm not even high on their hit list. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept.
(DIR) Post #AWIkA8ifuEtT288E08 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:12:00Z
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@ariaflame I used to (before 2 years ago) go there often for SCUBA cave diving (one of the best spots in the world). That said there are clearly some bigoted asshats down there.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWIzd1aR0I2ucaVbWa by AppalachianCrochet@home.social
2023-06-03T06:05:18Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance In 1930's Germany people said the same. It doesn't start with laws making them illegal. Instead it starts with propaganda to effect fear and hate against x,y, or z who have been condemned by deed, skin, birth or belief. SimilaritiesLeaders expecting loyalty over all othersEnd of Medicare and SSI would be a slow killing of our sick and elderlyDevaluing of humans based on "social accepted norms" which became more intrusive over time. Burning books etc.
(DIR) Post #AWJ0NZ1p05AZeyViFc by StOnSoftware@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T06:13:44Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance it has been in the Dutch newspapers too
(DIR) Post #AWJSKkiprde5m84sZE by chetHendrickson@agilealliance.social
2023-06-03T11:26:58Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @ariaflame @agilealliance Here would be a good place to catch up: https://naacp.org/articles/naacp-issues-travel-advisory-florida
(DIR) Post #AWJTMySBsiMktcuoSm by BernieWonIowa@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T11:38:34Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance Based on FL governor and legislature's attacks on Black history and trans healthcare it's clear those groups are being targeted for dehumanization. Who would feel safe under those political conditions? Who would feel confident that if they were the victim of violence that they'd be believed?Florida 2023 is not for everyone.#Florida
(DIR) Post #AWJkZv67MvTbTOLkcS by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T14:51:22Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance you have to look it up?
(DIR) Post #AWJlFhKAy3ecv0qY76 by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T14:58:56Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance No Internet there?
(DIR) Post #AWJnt6gonIQen0MBRQ by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T15:28:27Z
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@aardvark Correct, i dont have access to the internet.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJq56W3StxxdOAeJs by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T15:53:02Z
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So I've been looking all day and cant find this law where it is illegal to be gay, let alone any punishments or other details.. Can someone help point me to this law, cause clearly doing my own research isnt working.@aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJqMMhkWt60lVs66K by ariaflame@masto.ai
2023-06-03T15:56:09Z
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@freemo Ah, thank you for your confirmation of my suspicions.
(DIR) Post #AWJqWBoXsHOBswjckC by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T15:57:55Z
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@ariaflame Stop being a toxic asshat, I am sincerely trying to research these issues and learn about it and all your doing is making your side look petty and childish, stop that shit.I did a search for "law gay illegal florida" and literally cant find a single hit for any law outlawing being gay.... why is it so damn hard to just mention the law so i can research it, and why in the world would asking for the law cause you to react like a ass?
(DIR) Post #AWJrgBVlxGnrnQHfF2 by Amikke@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:10:59Z
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@freemo @ariaflame absolutely classic
(DIR) Post #AWJrlnefZ8hBXn7gQK by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T16:11:59Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-dont-say-gay-ban-684ed25a303f83208a89c556543183cb
(DIR) Post #AWJroerYi9Az91VyaW by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:12:29Z
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@aardvark Thank you so much, very much appreciated.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJrx9a4O1JwjONwzg by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T16:14:01Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance oh, I’m not done https://apnews.com/article/florida-abortion-ban-approved-c9c53311a0b2426adc4b8d0b463edad1
(DIR) Post #AWJs3fb6GKC7lZyTgm by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T16:14:35Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/breaking-florida-senate-passes-extreme-gender-affirming-care-ban
(DIR) Post #AWJs3gUOwiQkX5qdt2 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:15:10Z
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@aardvark Again, thank you so much for the links, still reading them but very much appreciated.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJs3gmTrUtNRAJ54C by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T16:15:00Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance I looked up all three of those in under a minute. With Google.
(DIR) Post #AWJsC6jhFGpQFh1ECO by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:16:43Z
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@aardvark Im sure you did, but you knew what the laws were you were looking for. None of these "make being gay illegal" so obviously to someone who has no clue what is being referenced it is effectively impossible to google. I did see these laws when i googled and since they did not fit the description I had assumed they werent what was being referenced.Obviously I have no objection to if the person wanted to be hyperbolic, but the inaccurate description did make it impossible for me to know what was being referenced or to find it.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJsQSNTZxsPQVT37w by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T16:19:20Z
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@freemo I googled for antigay Florida, antitrans Florida, and antiabortion Florida @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJsi2nNQqFnITy7pQ by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:22:28Z
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@aardvark Assuming those are the laws the OP meant, then again, thank you for finding them. I was looking perhaps too literally.I find it a bit funny that the OP will use such a vague and misleading statement and then instead of just mentioning what law they mean complain that i should google it then mock me when I dont find any law that actually matches what he said... Like just use your words to be clear enough so people dont need to guess, its not sealioning to ask "oh what law is that"... there is **no** need for the two days of nonsense when all I needed was an accurate statement of what is being discussed and i could have googled it.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJsz5PUxmCiKVvTrE by lurker@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:25:36Z
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@freemo this is neither here nor there but.... I feel like if you were gay, sea lion would be your type-of-gay, like some men are bears
(DIR) Post #AWJt3l4xyu5qioYB7I by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:26:24Z
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@lurker nah, I'd probably be an isopod, a nice sexy isopod
(DIR) Post #AWJvzze2BVDabHqiKe by lurker@qoto.org
2023-06-03T16:59:23Z
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@freemo vibes. You been on any good dives lately? I feel like I haven't seen any deep sea adventures lately
(DIR) Post #AWJw5ENGqbuzjPVPpA by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:00:16Z
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@lurker Not in a few months sadly. Last dive adventure I was on was int he Maldives. Sadly work has taken up a lot of time last few months.
(DIR) Post #AWJxwpv65ITxTlS84u by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T17:21:12Z
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@freemo maybe you’ve been isolating hard, so maybe you’re unaware that you’re pattern of “naive inquiry” is spot on for a trolling pattern. Especially this follow up that you’re doing. @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJy69AzrJ2loAKTT6 by hosford42@techhub.social
2023-06-03T17:22:52Z
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@freemo What!? No, you are full of it. We went round and round a month or two ago, with you swearing you weren't being rude, just having a polite conversation. Now here you are saying you've been out of the country for years with no access to internet until a few days ago. Sealioning, 100%.@aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJy8e5htDuWGe2wF6 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:23:20Z
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@aardvark Or ya know, when someone says "hey what law are you refering to" people can just answer and avoid all this toxic nonsense... and you actually manage to help inform people and get the word out, win win.Attacking someone for daring to ask what someone is referring to is the most self defeating toxic shit imaginable.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJyEjXOYJ46tgtsEy by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:24:24Z
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@hosford42 I have had access to internet. My response saying I didnt have internet was a joke, (which I assumed so was the question) since I was obviously answering **on the internet**. Yes I have had internet.@aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJyI02ZeS1wwt2csq by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T17:25:02Z
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@freemo only people living under a rock wouldn’t know about Florida’s growing Nazi-like campaign of hate and blame against marginalized groups @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJyKNStWxQgB5UDom by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:25:26Z
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@hosford42 Also anyone could see I have been consistently posting for years, so should have been obvious I was responding jokingly... @aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJykc066u84mvWhJg by hosford42@techhub.social
2023-06-03T17:30:12Z
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@freemo @aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance No, I get that you are on the internet *now*. But you were answering questions about where you had been, not where you are now.
(DIR) Post #AWJypFxDVQwvrOOSoK by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-06-03T17:31:04Z
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@aardvarkWhy is it everyone around the world's responsibility to keep up with American bullshit?@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJyrKA4plI9ULOXcu by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:31:23Z
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@hosford42 the question was asked int he present tense and answered int he present tense. So it is possible, and understandable, I may have misunderstood the question (and this was demonstrated with my answer).@aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJyxE907RtyYzhqlM by hosford42@techhub.social
2023-06-03T17:32:29Z
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@freemo @aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance The question was asked with no tense at all: "No internet there?"
(DIR) Post #AWJz5PzfwkHrdBFZku by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:33:56Z
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@hosford42 regardless my answer was in the present tense "I dont have access to the internet" which clearly was being stated while I have access to the internet (thus the joke).@aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWJzHysW4YQdIYtMFU by hosford42@techhub.social
2023-06-03T17:36:14Z
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@freemo @aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance Your answer in the present tense looked like a mistake, not a joke. You might try using a /s if you're going to be sarcastic, particularly given your communication style.
(DIR) Post #AWJzLBHsOOMWeYHPGa by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:36:50Z
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@hosford42 Thats fair, obviously anything I can do to improve clarity is a good thing.@aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWK15Maumjm0zplobg by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T17:56:22Z
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@Hyolobrika “What about florida makes it so exceptionally dangerous for them?” was the question. Seems like pasting that question into Google would have been simple enough. But no, demand answers on a topic of nationwide debate around hate laws instead? That’s sealioning behavior, like it or not. @freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWK1KeqzBDuhyCa2Gu by moffintosh@berserker.town
2023-06-03T17:59:09Z
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@GeePawHill @agilealliance shitlib going on idpolrant will sever himself from an event
(DIR) Post #AWK1NvUJn3OuQgXIci by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T17:59:42Z
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@aardvark Are you really going to take quotes out of context to create some drama about something I didnt say... Here is the full context of the question I asked:"What about florida makes it so exceptionally dangerous for them? Not that I'm disagreeing with you, just wondering what law or whatever this is in reference to."As is quite clear when you dont mislead by taking what I said out of context, I was interested in what **law** he was refering, not googles opinion on what makes florida shitty for gay people.Why are you even wasting your time with this toxic line of discussion... I asked what law he was talking about, the correct thing to do is just answer and avoid all this needless gaslighting.
(DIR) Post #AWK1Y13hvu4abQtt3Y by aardvark@ioc.exchange
2023-06-03T18:01:32Z
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@freemo I’m the same person who sent you links that took one minute to find
(DIR) Post #AWK1fHmy85eyW7XO52 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T18:02:50Z
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@aardvark Yes and I thank you for those links, its all the toxic gaslighting you've done in the peripheral to that is the issue.. when I said thank you that should have been the end of it.
(DIR) Post #AWKF2tNvoS0HBTPgA4 by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-06-03T20:32:47Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance , semi impartial observer here (you can decide after my post). Just a couple days ago I had a very similar experience, and I was fairly sure the guy was just being a dick. The same topic, florida book banning. I found the questions to be intentionally obtuse to the point of being harassing. I feel fairly sure that there was miscommunication with my conversation, and there is similar with yours. As I read this exchange, I am reexamining my conversation with different eyes.
(DIR) Post #AWKFFjN4M6HbtJ8EKW by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T20:35:05Z
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@JonKramer I have no doubt there is miscommunication and people are assuming intent behind my questions that dont exist. I even understand those misunderstandings happen because as I stated earlier it is not uncommon for people to discuss in bad faith... However I have consistently explicitly made it clear that was not the case and that this is good-faith. I was polite, thanked them when i got an answer and just moved on (at least until the toxic nightmare of a debate kicked off in meta-land).@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWKG8logxrjHP2IT5c by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-06-03T20:45:04Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance , I don't doubt your intentions. I have watched your interactions for about 8 months now, since I joined this instance. I doubt MY observations of another person a few days back, someone I did not know, who I assumed was arguing without good faith, to 'win the internet'. The similarities were, looking at the two conversations, blatant. I am questioning now, based on your conversation, if I was too quick to judge. Second guessing myself. It seemed to me that everyone should be directly aware of the book bannings, the anti trans legislation, etc, that states like Florida are imposing, and how miserable the state is becoming. This discussion defused my opinion of a guy who I pretty much KNEW was sealioning me. So, I am attempting to return the favor.
(DIR) Post #AWKGKFlRxaC5TAFvt2 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T20:47:06Z
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@JonKramer Gotcha, thats fair.Yea I have been completely ignorant of what has been going on in Florida mostly because in israel, where I was stuck for 2 years, the focus was on other things, mainly Palestinian conflict.People in the USA have a tendency to assume everyone knows whats going on. Truth is most of the world most of the time just rolls their eyes at us and doesnt give it much attention.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWKGuSDN9BsIVaZuxE by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-06-03T20:53:41Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance , Ya, I get that. For being the creators of the internet, Americans seem to be the most insulated from the best benefits of the system. The existence of reality. I blame a lack of classes on critical thinking... But, this attitude of mine is bad too, because then I assume everywhere else in the world is BETTER informed....
(DIR) Post #AWKH3ELg4Pkm6seEQS by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T20:55:14Z
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@JonKramer The problem isnt the internet, americans are generally just as insufferable in person. Being in america is like being in a huge insane asylum but where no one actually realizes it because it is so pervasive no one realizes just how ill they are.It is very draining being around americans.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWKHdQqn49zDJCSlSy by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-06-03T21:01:48Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance , I love it when someone becomes self aware of what you noticed... Ya, we are, as a nation, nuts.
(DIR) Post #AWKHtwIptXGjUQS6i0 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T21:04:46Z
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@JonKramer I often remark on this when it comes to the latest tendency of increasing autism diagnosis... while im sure a great deal of autism is legitimate I think it is largely overinflated int he USA. The people labeled as autistic for not "fitting in" or "missing social clues" are really the health well rounded people and its everyone else who is toxic and constantly offended.. so it creates this weird dynamic where th e"norm" is having a social disorder and the healthy people are seen as the "unhealthy" and get mislabeled as autistic.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWKJnoraqDMCaUv3UO by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-06-03T21:26:06Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance , I really have to think about this post.... It's an interesting observation you have made, and my 1st thought was to dismiss it. But I live in the land of the blind, and the one-eyed kid would be king.... And obviously, to me, insane.
(DIR) Post #AWKK3qo5NpAXFSvI1Y by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T21:28:58Z
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@JonKramer I actually realized it when I had an in depth conversation with a recently diagnosed Autistic person... They listed all the examples of failed human interactions that they described to their psychiatrist and ultimately the line of thinking that lead to the diagnosis. Well this person used to live int he netherlands and I pointed out how I didnt think they would have had any of those examples happen in the netherlands and asked them to think back to when they lived there and they realized that all their social difficulties were non existent in the netherlands... They quickly shifted from fully believing they were autistic to convinced they weren't since all the diagnosis criteria only ever manifested int he USA... since that interaction I have become convinced this is a common mode of misdiagnosis in the USA.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWKKlYW2kYyHGHK98y by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-06-03T21:36:54Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance , that's a conversation I couldn't understand, because I lack the experience of being in the Netherlands long enough to be able to understand the change in environment. But I am fully aware of my limitation, in a theoretical way. To turn this back a bit, I was NOT capable of understanding the theoretical limitations that other English speakers wouldn't know about the dangers of Florida to education, and gay folks.... I will have to work on that.
(DIR) Post #AWKKrOLbT7iLSjDv84 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T21:37:55Z
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@JonKramer The important part is self reflection, no one is perfect. But yea living in other countries opens you up to a lot of blind spots for sure.@ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWKfAPnwH2fiZBpG6K by BernieWonIowa@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T11:50:47Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance A #Florida teacher is being investigated and her students interviewed by state agents because she let her class watch a #Disney movie. The reason? The film included a gay character.https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-teacher-disney-movie-resign/44064029
(DIR) Post #AWKfAQbZIWN3372tSS by andrewpazniewski@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T15:23:30Z
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@BernieWonIowa @freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance Fahrenheit 451 is a 1953 dystopian novel by Ray Bradbury. It presents an American society where books have been personified & outlawed & "firemen" burn any that are found. Fahrenheit 451 was written by Bradbury during the Second Red Scare & the McCarthy era, who was inspired by the book burnings in Nazi Germany & by ideological repression in the Soviet Union.
(DIR) Post #AWKfAQqSPAHRnI0mfI by BernieWonIowa@mastodon.social
2023-06-03T11:54:42Z
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Lgbt people themselves are expressing safety concerns now being out in #Florida. Let's listen to them.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/02/florida-lgbtq-pride-month-ron-desantis@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWKfARQyDPUHcX5wZs by qurlyjoe@mstdn.social
2023-06-04T00:50:59Z
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@andrewpazniewski @BernieWonIowa @freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance Fun fact: the title refers to the temperature (in degrees Fahrenheit) at which paper ignites, according to the story.
(DIR) Post #AWLproXDOdwSPyIQAS by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-06-04T14:59:40.684982Z
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Trans folks are definitely impacted by the bathroom law so I certainly understand the choice to avoid Florida but what specifically is happening that is putting black and gay/lesbian *lives* at risk? Is there a murder spree going unreported or are you exaggerating?
(DIR) Post #AWLq6h5pLZSrgJa57g by SchizoCynic@poa.st
2023-06-04T15:02:48.993399Z
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@feld @GeePawHill No they just keep those pedophiles away from children. Since raping children is how faggots reproduce them not being able to groom and rape children is trans genocide.
(DIR) Post #AWLqC4KuMAOHDWCKMS by SchizoCynic@poa.st
2023-06-04T15:03:47.291189Z
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@GeePawHill No they are mad they are not allowed to groom and rape children.
(DIR) Post #AWLqGOk0Qxhvey09gm by SchizoCynic@poa.st
2023-06-04T15:04:34.309663Z
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@GeePawHill FUCK YOU BLASPHEMER! MAY THE FIRE OF HELL CONSUME YOU SLOWLY
(DIR) Post #AWLqKIk2gJWqD9sbLM by SchizoCynic@poa.st
2023-06-04T15:05:16.541010Z
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@GeePawHill No child molesters allowed. Cope more faggot then kill yourself for being pro child rape
(DIR) Post #AWMGUPCO7t8XwScJ8q by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-04T19:58:22Z
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@GeePawHill No worries, and I appreciate the apology. From what is being described it does indeed seem like a grim situation and can certainly understand if people have a light trigger finger due to the emotional impact of these things.@ariaflame @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWMGfPNdn9N1gr7vMm by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-04T20:00:20Z
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@ariaflame I appreciate the apology (and the respectful use of my pronouns).. No harm done and we all seemed to come to a place where that is behind us.. Given the circumstances the heated reaction is understandable, think nothing of it.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWMhHihH1EEZPcEruC by nesmb@mas.to
2023-06-05T00:58:37Z
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@freemo @aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Offender You were not attacked, Sir (to use your preferred ‘pronoun’)
(DIR) Post #AWMxnWJcBfdbXpMGhs by AmpBenzScientist@qoto.org
2023-06-05T04:03:37Z
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@freemo @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance Bigoted asshats on bath salts trying to smash with their cousins but with gentrification that will certainly fix all the problems.
(DIR) Post #AWRDKISuygKU5gdWPg by DoesntExist@universeodon.com
2023-06-07T05:16:30Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance It's my favorite sealion! Dr. FREEMO!He's "just asking questions."
(DIR) Post #AWRDSCioDUBqarq8DA by DoesntExist@universeodon.com
2023-06-07T05:17:55Z
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@freemo @aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance Here he goes again. Dr. Freemo! He doesn't understand anything, but he somehow knows the word "asshat."
(DIR) Post #AWRDXijgcG6PKcsf3o by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-07T05:18:54Z
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@DoesntExist Oh nice, a new troll on a dead thread where the OP already apologized for the people like you disrupting the thread... please share your opinions, im sure we all care soooo much.@GeePawHill @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWRDbiJ09s799gIqtk by DoesntExist@universeodon.com
2023-06-07T05:19:39Z
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@freemo @aardvark @ariaflame @GeePawHill @agilealliance Dr. Freemo's Pyrrhonism is among my favorite aspects of his sealioning! So much fun!
(DIR) Post #AWRGFUFY2IgH3OmTFA by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-07T05:24:01Z
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@DoesntExist @freemo @aardvark @ariaflame @agilealliance Oh shut the fuck up. You seem less likely than Freemo to know what I'm talking about.Define yourself by what you're in favor of, child, not what you're against.
(DIR) Post #AWRGFVXJFkTz2m6AZE by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-07T05:49:11Z
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@GeePawHill Thanks for that. Some people are just beyond help and will spew toxicity in every thread like this guy, all while adding nothing of value. The sad part is how they are so counter-productive to their own claimed objectives. Sometimes I wont if people like this are just russian-paid trolls trying to create fights where none clearly exist othewise.@DoesntExist @aardvark @ariaflame @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWRGMWNQWg2xg5ov3Y by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-07T05:50:28Z
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@GeePawHill Thanks for that. Some people are just beyond help and will spew toxicity in every thread like this guy, all while adding nothing of value. The sad part is how they are so counter-productive to their own claimed objectives. Sometimes I wonder if people like this are just russian-paid trolls trying to create fights where none clearly exist othewise.@DoesntExist @aardvark @ariaflame @agilealliance
(DIR) Post #AWRGv15IrVVQlIn9H6 by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2023-06-07T05:56:45Z
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@freemo @DoesntExist @aardvark @ariaflame @agilealliance Our system makes it very very easy to hate, and very very hard to be both angry and kind.Freems -- affectionate nickname -- I don't even really know you. I don't know what kinda foolishness you're up to. I suspect, on what evidence I have, we'd be all fisticuffs and what-not.But the current system wants us to hate, cuz hate is profitable.I ain't play that.
(DIR) Post #AWRSt2KYSQ4VUskQds by olives@qoto.org
2023-06-07T08:10:52Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance "male / female impersonation" being defined as "adult content" which children shouldn't see means that someone could harass / arrest someone simply for walking around.
(DIR) Post #AWRSxZ50ddbOE2dTvM by olives@qoto.org
2023-06-07T08:11:41Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance "male / female impersonation" being defined as "adult content" which minors shouldn't see means that someone could harass / arrest someone simply for walking around.
(DIR) Post #AWRTBFVEDqRRYvQOWW by olives@qoto.org
2023-06-07T08:14:10Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance "male / female impersonation" being defined as "adult content" which minors shouldn't see means that someone could harass / arrest someone simply for walking around.I've seen this in some states. On the upside, this is certainly a violation of the First Amendment which protects free expression.
(DIR) Post #AWRTVF35cSifwjnQoq by olives@qoto.org
2023-06-07T08:17:46Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance "male / female impersonation" being defined as "adult content" which minors shouldn't see means that someone could harass / arrest someone simply for walking around.I've seen this in some states. On the upside, this is certainly a violation of the First Amendment which protects free expression.That might be one. You also have to consider that if a politician is riling people up, then a place might be unsafe, in general.
(DIR) Post #AWRU39llkpQlQ0rnI8 by olives@qoto.org
2023-06-07T08:23:53Z
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@freemo @GeePawHill @agilealliance "male / female impersonation" being defined as "adult content" which minors shouldn't see means that someone could harass / arrest someone simply for walking around.I've seen this in some states. On the upside, this is certainly a violation of the First Amendment which protects free expression.That might be one. Also, rhetoric / laws from politicians might make people feel unsafe, in general.