Post AWJGGR1Py6oo4Fwb9U by Mair@wetdry.world
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(DIR) Post #AWJGGOjcTJOQyTbM8G by asahi95@possum.city
2023-06-03T08:39:19.839Z
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I just realized Windows also had a marketshare drop like AndroidLinux... they haven't even risen a slight bit :blobfoxsad:, still at around 2.69%
(DIR) Post #AWJGGPU3geXXIVKRW4 by Mair@wetdry.world
2023-06-03T08:47:17Z
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@asahi95 keep in mind that most people do not give a solitary fuck about privacy or data freedomsLinux also does things in a fundamentally different way to windows, which means it will take Linux being substantially better than windows to get people to switch
(DIR) Post #AWJGGQAF9oHfPL48Gm by asahi95@possum.city
2023-06-03T08:48:31.689Z
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@Mair@wetdry.world True, Linux has to somehow step up their game if they want more users to join their sideWindows is just too convenient for the average user, even me because I don't want to fiddle around with settings so much.
(DIR) Post #AWJGGR1Py6oo4Fwb9U by Mair@wetdry.world
2023-06-03T08:55:05Z
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@asahi95 most people treat their PC as a glorified application launcher, either for games or work softwareBecause it costs money and time for people to retrain on different OSs, Linux needs to be al least 50% better than windows if it wants to winLinux rn is only really worth it if you're a software engineer or a power user who wants to customise their OS
(DIR) Post #AWJGGRbZnfk3sOrTVo by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-06-03T09:11:39.298818Z
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Many such cases of: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-users-never-heard-of-gnu.en.html@asahi95 >they haven't even risen a slight bit, still at around 2.69%Such "marketshare" stats appear to be based off the useragents of the used that browse degenerate sites that don't show anything without proprietary JavaScript.The stats aren't very useful, as GNU users are unlikely to visit those sites, or at least use Tor Browser to visit - thus reporting a windows useragent most of the time.>GNU has to somehow step up their game if they want more users to join their sideThe freedom has been set at 11 for decades now and more free software than ever before is available, so we really can't do any better.Unfortunately, users need to decide for themselves to stop falling for the proprietary tricks and join us on the superfortress we've built.>Windows is just too convenient for the average userWindows only has the appearance of convenience - it's just that everything else has been sabotaged with countless layers of proprietary tricks.As I have sadly used windows before, I have personal experience of how inconvenient it is to complete basic tasks and how much of a dumpster fire everything is.@Mair >Linux needs to be al least 50% better than windows if it wants to winThe kernel, Linux is 1000% better than the mess known as the NT kernel, but a kernel is useless on its own sadly.The GNU OS is 100% free software, thus it is better it every single way - although it happens to be much more reliable and functionally better than windows.
(DIR) Post #AWJLxae6YuOG8fR9k0 by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
2023-06-03T09:01:07.878469Z
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@asahi95 >Windows is just too convenient for the average userNo. Windows has been a pain in the ass for a long time. People use Windows for its applications, mostly games and productivity-related shit. On Linux, while we have some of that stuff, people want to use the same software they actually use on Windows. That's the truth. The only way to see more people moving to Linux, is to see some of the big software developers to actually make stuff for this OS. Let me give you an example. Valve has tried its best to improve gaming on Linux, and now we can enjoy playing more games because of their contribution. I might not like Steam for being proprietary, but they actually improved the Linux ecosystem in some ways.As for me, I don't care about the marketshare of Linux. I want it to be improved.@Mair
(DIR) Post #AWJM3E9N75lq6hkYQi by sigmasternchen@comfy.social
2023-06-03T09:39:48.152Z
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@getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz @asahi95@possum.city @Mair@wetdry.world One of the biggest problems with making applications for linux is that there is not one "Linux", but maybe 10 relevant distros + let's say 3 different relevant versions each with different libraries.In a Q&A a few years back even Linus Torvalds said "Making binaries for Linux desktop apps is a major f*cking pain in the ass." (Here is a recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc )My feeling is that maybe Snap, FlatPak, ... will change that. But I think Linux people don't really like that approach of containerizing everything..
(DIR) Post #AWJM4eCxiSvlDK6fFA by Mair@wetdry.world
2023-06-03T09:41:47Z
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@sigmasternchen it seems like flatpak will be the future; many devs only support it now
(DIR) Post #AWJM4eqfKqgpCSgN84 by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
2023-06-03T09:42:40.910129Z
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@Mair flatpak is shit@sigmasternchen
(DIR) Post #AWJM4fSx2VJZ7Cawnw by sigmasternchen@comfy.social
2023-06-03T09:46:48.675Z
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@getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz @Mair@wetdry.world Well, the alternative is just having each distribution building and maintaining it's own packages. Which works for most open-source software quite well. But for commercial software - and this is the relevant one for this discussion - that approach just doesn't work. Sure, you can have community repositories like AUR or PPAs or something like that. But that's not the ideal solution. It duplicates work and delays the time for software releases. Also you still have issues with different versions of different libraries.Containerized solutions resolve all of that in one go:- The libraries are in the container.- The workload is shifted from the distro maintainers to the software maintainers.
(DIR) Post #AWJM4gAuP4TbJXA3Jw by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
2023-06-03T09:48:28.020208Z
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@sigmasternchen I prefer AppImages, but they have their own issues@Mair