Post AWCoPTpAxGLhhVz14S by eolas@stereophonic.space
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(DIR) Post #AWCiugCIP3lbKKI7Wq by niccolove@fosstodon.org
2023-05-31T03:13:56Z
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I managed to get Lunduke to threaten to sue me. When I'm bored, I'm extremely effective
(DIR) Post #AWCiugl2JtYX44Xrg8 by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-05-31T05:10:35Z
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@niccolove He seems like a complete bigot. My limited interactions with him back in the day on Twitter were very unpleasant as well. Fell down the rabbit hole, and kept digging.
(DIR) Post #AWCiuhThdpHjIbRXIe by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T05:29:46.250072Z
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I really do hope you don't end up falling spiraling into an echo chamber, @thelinuxEXP.
(DIR) Post #AWCiyy8bdurs7ubvhw by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T05:30:34.189595Z
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I really do hope you don't end up getting radicalized by the echo chamber you've turned your community into.
(DIR) Post #AWCml66jc8WYbhNP7I by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-05-31T05:56:50Z
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@eolas I am already “radicalized”, I’m bi.It’s not an echo chamber. It’s a common misconception that every place needs to be open to every discussion and argument.That’s not the case. It’s perfectly OK to have a space dedicated mostly to Linux and Open Source not be open to arguing on other topics.
(DIR) Post #AWCml6k5Fq02ZjmpRw by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T06:12:52.550347Z
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I'm bi myself and I'm yet to go woke. Being queer doesn't necessarily mean that you are "*radicalized*" as there are plenty of cool queer people out there that don't lean too heavily into the politics or social issues of the LGBTQA+. My neighbors and another transgender in another space that I told about what happened are a few examples that I can offer from the top of my head.Something I feel that has gone largely unaddressed is that by showing partisan support for a political or social issue you are doing so at the exclusion of other people. Myself being one such person in this particular case. This isn't the first time I've addressed concerns about your community. I think it's a pretty good thing that you have cultivated an open and inclusive environment where people can be themselves without fear of retaliation. But I do think it is equally as important for you to consider those who may have more conservative values that might find such an environment to be uncomfortable. This is why I firmly believe that communities shouldn't put their weight behind political or social issues as doing so will ultimately compromise the neutrality of your community and the likelihood of you fostering a diverse community of different demographics. When you have a heavily liberal-leaning community that has set the tone of strict political correctness, you can start to see how it would be difficult for anyone else to really get a word in or set their roots.Something that I feel is worth your consideration.
(DIR) Post #AWCmmtgMmXyqeLtvZA by mks_h@mstdn.social
2023-05-31T06:11:33Z
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@thelinuxEXP @eolas trust me, out of all people you would be the least "radicalized", in a good sense.
(DIR) Post #AWCmp5NcGHn5VaAsDo by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T06:13:36.449926Z
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I’m bi myself and I’m yet to go woke. Being queer doesn’t necessarily mean that you are “radicalized“ as there are plenty of cool queer people out there that don’t lean too heavily into the politics or social issues of the LGBTQA+. My neighbors and another transgender in another space that I told about what happened are a few examples that I can offer from the top of my head.Something I feel that has gone largely unaddressed is that by showing partisan support for a political or social issue you are doing so at the exclusion of other people. Myself being one such person in this particular case. This isn’t the first time I’ve addressed concerns about your community. I think it’s a pretty good thing that you have cultivated an open and inclusive environment where people can be themselves without fear of retaliation. But I do think it is equally as important for you to consider those who may have more conservative values that might find such an environment to be uncomfortable. This is why I firmly believe that communities shouldn’t put their weight behind political or social issues as doing so will ultimately compromise the neutrality of your community and the likelihood of you fostering a diverse community of different demographics. When you have a heavily liberal-leaning community that has set the tone of strict political correctness, you can start to see how it would be difficult for anyone else to really get a word in or set their roots.Something that I feel is worth your consideration.
(DIR) Post #AWCmvT21EpoMbH7DXM by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T06:14:46.067008Z
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I’m bi myself and I’m yet to go woke. Being queer doesn’t necessarily mean that you are “radicalized“ as there are plenty of cool queer people out there that don’t lean too heavily into the politics or social issues of the LGBTQA+. My neighbors and transgender woman in another space that I told about what happened are a few examples that I can offer from the top of my head.Something I feel that has gone largely unaddressed is that by showing partisan support for a political or social issue you are doing so at the exclusion of other people. Myself being one such person in this particular case. This isn’t the first time I’ve addressed concerns about your community. I think it’s a pretty good thing that you have cultivated an open and inclusive environment where people can be themselves without fear of retaliation. But I do think it is equally as important for you to consider those who may have more conservative values that might find such an environment to be uncomfortable. This is why I firmly believe that communities shouldn’t put their weight behind political or social issues as doing so will ultimately compromise the neutrality of your community and the likelihood of you fostering a diverse community of different demographics. When you have a heavily liberal-leaning community that has set the tone of strict political correctness, you can start to see how it would be difficult for anyone else to really get a word in or set their roots.Something that I feel is worth your consideration.
(DIR) Post #AWCoO7itdpPmriOoca by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-05-31T06:26:48Z
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@eolas On top of that, it’s not a question of politics or social issues. No one is saying “ban the conservatives”. But if these beliefs turn into anything offensive, we’ll act.Having a politically correct tone is mandatory in any online community, if you don’t, you get overwhelmed with the same kind of toxic people that now run rampant on Twitter. It’s NOT the place for arguing on these topics. There are other communities focused on these issues.
(DIR) Post #AWCoO8Pn4Lj50kT4To by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T06:31:08.395269Z
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I have absolutely no issue with it exclusively being a Linux space, thaI absolutely have no issues with it remaining exclusively a Linux-orientated space, that is actually what I would've much rather preferred. What I am asking is that you continue to offer an LGBTQA+ inclusive space without treating that demographic as first-class citizens. The space is rife with queer discussion in just about any channel you visit which itself isn't a bad thing. Though it can become an issue when the overall impression of your community is that it is transgender first and Linux second.All I would like to see is the space being recalibrated to focus primarily back on Linux-related content with any other topics shared primarily in an off-topic channel.
(DIR) Post #AWCoPTpAxGLhhVz14S by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T06:31:23.787724Z
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I absolutely have no issues with it remaining exclusively a Linux-orientated space, that is actually what I would've much rather preferred. What I am asking is that you continue to offer an LGBTQA+ inclusive space without treating that demographic as first-class citizens. The space is rife with queer discussion in just about any channel you visit which itself isn't a bad thing. Though it can become an issue when the overall impression of your community is that it is transgender first and Linux second.All I would like to see is the space being recalibrated to focus primarily back on Linux-related content with any other topics shared primarily in an off-topic channel.
(DIR) Post #AWCpGNBCOHI2RMVP8a by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-05-31T06:35:25Z
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@eolas In my experience, only the “general” channel has queer discussions, the rest is Linux and open source focused. The “general” channel is what we use for off topic.
(DIR) Post #AWCpGNs5onbKaOZezo by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T06:40:55.012342Z
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That's fair enough, though there still remains the issue of the overall community not really having much of a balanced demographic of people. There's honestly not much you can do about that, as you can't just ask that none-queer people join to even things back out. I do feel that there are some things you can do to help make the community feel less polarizing in that respect.
(DIR) Post #AWCpOOmyI7oTkR05Vw by eolas@stereophonic.space
2023-05-31T06:42:23.881199Z
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Being a little more permissive in what is allowed to be discussed or joked about there so long as it is not directed towards any particular person or group might be a good start.
(DIR) Post #AZYqbc1glCj70LN70C by slembcke@mastodon.gamedev.place
2023-06-01T15:08:45Z
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@RL_Dane @thelinuxEXP @niccolove Uff, similar timeline to mine. He seemed whimsical and fun, but would occasionally say something that made me think "hmm?" Then I saw a rant of his on Twitter and thought "ooOOooh..." It all made much more sense.
(DIR) Post #AZYqbkypTCmqm56SIK by RL_Dane@fosstodon.org
2023-06-01T16:51:57Z
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@slembcke @thelinuxEXP @niccoloveI think there's a lesson for progressives in this, too: we* need to be careful of dogpiling and accusations. There have been many opportunities to reach out to people going astray that were wasted on offended, self-righteous denouncements. ...*"we" in virtual scarequotes, because I don't neatly fit into any political camp. I guess in the American context I'm a pretty classic liberal, because… dear God, 'murica. 🙄
(DIR) Post #AZYqboVYLzkHiRR8DY by RL_Dane@fosstodon.org
2023-06-01T16:52:25Z
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@slembcke @thelinuxEXP @niccolove...Humans just *love* denouncing stuff -- I'm no exception. And while I'd never say that it's the *job* of anyone to patiently explain *reality* to the wilfully and chronically clueless, withholding a stinging rebuke can at the very least help to not push a person *further* into the echo chamber.