Post AWBHTBc7aLJXqcAJ5k by drq@mastodon.ml
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(DIR) Post #AWBHTBc7aLJXqcAJ5k by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T12:47:23Z
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Time to set record straight: there's state-sanctioned transgender genocide here in Russia going on.
(DIR) Post #AWBHq2FQZe7NSZRgwq by Cat@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T12:51:16Z
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@drq :cat_wtf: что происходит?
(DIR) Post #AWBKQRY4BTAkGHeVDE by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T13:20:31Z
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@drq since when being a transgender defined by genes?
(DIR) Post #AWBLIIxiK8fBGkKdG4 by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T13:30:09Z
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@oleg_ru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide
(DIR) Post #AWBT6DqKKX0nYCcshk by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T14:52:51Z
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@drq Oh, Wikipedia, lol! The funny thing is the claim of the notion of "Transgender genocide" in this article refers to Jones, Adam (2017), who wrote nothing about transgender genocide in his book and Waites Matthew (2018) who mainly oppose Lemkin who initially defined it as "race" or "tribe". Matthew argues that in his opinion it is not correct as "race in biological terms is a fiction" and prefers to focus on the cultural aspects of "tribe" but not biological. This is very arguable and the discussion supposes to be still open, as it's not clear then whether was it Jew 'genocide' in Germany as most of the German Jews didn't identify themself as "Jews" actually but culturally identified themself as "Germans". This is better to use precise terminology that conveys meaning but not emotions. I understand that "genocide" is a strong word whose connotation can be used to increase the emotional aspect of the message, but I suppose that for this particular situation words like: "discrimination", "persecution", and "attack" better fit the context.
(DIR) Post #AWBTaDFn5MxwPVpxzM by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T15:03:01Z
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@oleg_ru > words like: "discrimination", "persecution", and "attack"... don't paint an adequate picture. It's targeted extermination.
(DIR) Post #AWBU5HcOuLRmvNEDcu by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T15:06:38Z
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@drq So, what happened? Are any facts that evidence "targeted extermination"?
(DIR) Post #AWBU8JChTAayi6eLfU by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T15:09:18Z
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@oleg_ru All there in the thread.
(DIR) Post #AWBUqt4nSQasi0D45Y by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T15:17:20Z
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@drq There is a news article in this thread that says that new law is being amended to prohibit medical professionals from performing gender reassignment surgeries, with the exception of anomalies in children. Both medical and legal gender change at a person's request will be prohibited. Which is indeed discriminatory. But there is nothing about "targeted extermination". Maybe I miss something?
(DIR) Post #AWBVENa0DGgXyQ0Xs8 by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T15:21:41Z
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@oleg_ru You miss the knock-on effects of these legislations. You fail to see the forrest for a tree and read between the lines. And the lines are fucking clear, and have been long ago.
(DIR) Post #AWBWCth9wBmax8DEw4 by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T15:32:35Z
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@drq Perspective indeed is not bright for Russian transgenders. And it is horrible and of course that should be discussed. But there is no "transgender genocide", and no systematic "targeted extermination" (yet). I believe that there is some kind of mistake in your statement. If you speculate, at least you could add some markers such as "COULD BE", "SHOULD BE" or "WILL BE" if you are strictly sure of your point. Otherwise, your statement can be considered a lie.
(DIR) Post #AWBWnr4QeufVWjifmC by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T15:39:11Z
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@oleg_ru You're not listening, are you.I will repeat: "They Are Banning Every Kind Of Transition, Both Legal And Medical". Which is what being trans is all about. And without which, there *will* be mental health deterioration, and there *will* be suicides.What is it if not targeted erasure? That's what they're going for, that's what their goal is.
(DIR) Post #AWBdvPpW34MXvPCwme by putnik16@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T16:59:03Z
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@drq monsieur exaggerates.
(DIR) Post #AWBjkLzsYfGgZqACmW by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T18:03:48Z
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Yes, and what you describe is discrimination. As with any other discrimination, there could be a wide variety of subsequent secondary effects. It *can* cause mental problems and subsequently *can* affect suicide rates. But it doesn't mean it will be so in magnitude that we can call it "genocide" or "targeted extermination". And again, this is really horrible, and consequences for the society could be very dramatic.
(DIR) Post #AWBkWMlyyc28spYdvs by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T18:08:04Z
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@drq Omg, moreover, it's just a law draft and still there is a chance that it will not pass. However, in modern Russia, I would call this chance "miraculous" as 90% it will.
(DIR) Post #AWBoN9NPoWFoXuvZaa by oleg_ru@dindon.one
2023-05-30T18:08:52Z
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@drq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
(DIR) Post #AWBoNA2BMwrcaM088G by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-05-30T18:55:57Z
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@oleg_ru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra
(DIR) Post #AWDSUQrLP1007SuhoO by th3rdsergeevich@mastodon.ml
2023-05-31T13:40:08Z
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@oleg_ru > But there is no "transgender genocide", and no systematic "targeted extermination" (yet).Ah yes, the good ol' "Call us back when you've got killed" mentality.@drq implies that the law will bring the legal and psychological repercussions for trans folk, which leads to rising suicide rates, intensified persecutions (LGBTQ+ is illegal in Russia, remember?)... and of course, factually sanctioned "hate crime" killings.All of this is a straightforward policy of erasure of anyone of non-comforming gender. A genocide, in other words. If you don't see the problem, you might be as well a part of the problem.
(DIR) Post #AWDoLg5navkJkWuCR6 by CapitalB@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T18:05:25Z
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@drq @oleg_ru But what did these persons do 10000 years ago?Who funds this?Are taxes involved?Should it be just a right of the well to do?