Post AW7iY7ApRR0Xee8NXc by _hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #AW7iXyCym4Ndqi4T8y by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-05-28T16:11:00Z
       
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       Yep IPv6 only would be such a great idea, because I totally want to cycle through my home network wifi because it randomly decides to drop IPv6 if it didn't happen to see the route advertisement in time.Android has such _great_ IPv6 support, we should all be happy that such great opinionated visionaries have control over its network stack!
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iXyn8bdIteqzLVI by awlnx@social.ffmuc.net
       2023-05-28T16:50:42Z
       
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       @flameeyes This "feature" is really one of the worst bugs in Android ... and it affects sooo many devices.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iXztuTwJb69AGhM by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-05-28T17:03:01Z
       
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       @awlnx do you know the story behind this? That it basically has one strong opponent to fix this because "DHCPv6 is a hack"?
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY0ehfxkHRH3ddQ by awlnx@social.ffmuc.net
       2023-05-28T17:27:55Z
       
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       @flameeyes I have no idea behind the story, but I discussed this matter many many times on Twitter. There are several Bug reports to Google about that issue. It mostly has to do with power saving and missing RAs. But no real reaction yet ... https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/241959699?pli=1https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/36949115
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY1KBBkvFVuSlHc by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-05-28T17:32:30Z
       
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       @awlnx RAs were such a great idea for IPv6. "You know what we need to make this a great idea? Race conditions between the router and the client!"
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY24yNmLvr2M8Dg by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-05-28T17:42:05Z
       
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       @awlnx by now I'm actually taking pleasure in reminding the v6 fanboys that there's little chance that any consumer would ever *want* v6, let alone care.https://flameeyes.blog/2023/04/30/ipv6-in-real-life/
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY2f8DLHBfBH0a0 by awlnx@social.ffmuc.net
       2023-05-28T17:44:43Z
       
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       @flameeyes Don't get me wrong I am all for #IPv6 adoption. But it has soo many issues, right now. Let alone the stability for networks like Vodafone, Tata and the like. Also if your application doesn't support happy-eyeballs it's a big mess.One example:https://github.com/npm/cli/issues/4163#issuecomment-1084601306
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY3G00GlbVWWS2q by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-05-28T17:46:57Z
       
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       @awlnx yup that's the difference between caring for network evolution and being a fanboy I guess.Not realising that there's a long way to go and suggesting (like in the comments there) fines for those not adopting v6 is fanboy material.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY3my1h8d9lwmQq by awlnx@social.ffmuc.net
       2023-05-28T17:49:27Z
       
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       @flameeyes Yep, that's what fanboys often forget. Sure I can add a AAAA record to stuff and don't care. But if I want to retain quality of my network ... there is much more work to do beyond putting on a AAAA.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY5u8A23ZiZJWsK by flameeyes@mastodon.social
       2023-05-28T17:53:23Z
       
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       @awlnx yup, network engineers who believe "well, it's ready, it's the application developers problem now" seem to ignore that a network without applications is pretty much dead in the water.As I said two years ago, "it's a full stack world" https://flameeyes.blog/2021/06/08/ten-years-of-ipv6/
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY6ZxeVW7oIsw4m by awlnx@social.ffmuc.net
       2023-05-28T17:55:32Z
       
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       @flameeyes Yep, when we turned on IPv6 at my last job. It ended in a pretty big disaster, because of Linux Kernel bugs, Android bugs which lead to happy eyeballs not working correctly and providers which just dropped odd IPv6 addresses.Debugging this was a hell lot of fun.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY7ApRR0Xee8NXc by _hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org
       2023-05-28T18:49:48Z
       
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       @awlnx @flameeyes this. I've read about IPv6, took a couple of online classes, tried it at home and enabled it on my private VPS, but I just can't see myself proposing to enable it on our enterprise/small ISP network any time soon. It would be just too much added work for something that in our environment has no clear benefits and a few major drawbacks :/
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7iY82MEPpGKfB7ya by tschaefer@ipv6.social
       2023-05-28T19:31:56Z
       
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       @_hic_haec_hoc @awlnx @flameeyes 🫤
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7j6r7595sbymwnke by tschaefer@ipv6.social
       2023-05-28T19:38:23Z
       
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       @awlnx @flameeyes "Fanboys" don't forget this!