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(DIR) Post #AW48pjGmsIHyuG8pGK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:07:50Z
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@wjmaggos asked how my beliefs deviate from conservative orthodoxy.I grew up in a liberal environment and left it because I saw that what we said we wanted was never produced by what we were doing.Consequently, I am more of the paleoconservative or European New Right vein of conservative, but am best described as a "roots conservative."I see no need for the proxies of the last century or so.So let me list them...
(DIR) Post #AW48wdQqyeeQpQ8uNE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:09:05Z
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@wjmaggos 1. Pro-abortion:At the very least, I think this should be a states' rights issue.In blunt point of fact, I do not think that banning abortion does anything but make a mess.It should be between a woman and her GP.At some level, I think this is something that needs to be intensely private and not interfered with.The cures are worse than the disease.
(DIR) Post #AW490uOtpZXwc6GacS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:09:51Z
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@wjmaggos 2. DrugsI favor total decriminalization of all drugs, recreation and medical.Let people take care of themselves.Not only do we not want to be involved in trying to enforce these laws, but we want to enforce responsibility.You be responsible for what you take.If you drop, we bury you. Natural selection is preserved.
(DIR) Post #AW496yLM5I7kZzV4IS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:10:57Z
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@wjmaggos 3. TheocracyUnlike the atheists, I think religion is mostly positive, which is why every human civilization on Earth invents a religion.I do not think we can use religion as a substitute for culture like the GOP does.I do not think we want religious rules pushed on people.A good society rewards good people, regardless of degree of religiosity.But: the scientific position is agnosticism; atheism is a religion in itself.
(DIR) Post #AW49Fj5s9TNdtDQs3E by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:12:31Z
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@wjmaggos 4. Death penaltyFor most of my life, I have opposed it, simply because there is a rate of error to everything. Killing is irrevocable and a big deal.However, I favor something far more extreme, which is to lock people up for life after their first violent crime or their third crime of any sort. Keep them in jail until they rattle and drop.I think exile is underutilized. We should be sending defectives to Venezuela.
(DIR) Post #AW49LWiF66NtEB95CS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:13:34Z
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@wjmaggos 5. LGBTHIVBBQ+My rule is Plato's rule: good to the good, bad to the bad, and leave everyone else alone.Some matters should be kept private. That means neither we nor they divulge, and this applies to most heterosexual things too.I do not mind seeing couples of any sort holding hands or having quick pecks in public.Face-eating, fondling, squeezing, or other crassness belongs in the home.
(DIR) Post #AW49PpQlRi3ARI1OWe by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:14:21Z
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@wjmaggos 6. CapitalismI favor radical capitalism. That is, get government and law out of the way as much as possible.Every market is regulated by its audience. What people buy makes money. We need the people to take responsibility here instead of farming it out to government.
(DIR) Post #AW49Ur9AUbMND4BkPo by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:15:16Z
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@wjmaggos 7. WarI favor constant small wars. Your military is not a deterrent unless it is experienced. A strong deterrent is the best way to stay out of really disastrous wars.I like American worldwide hegemony. It is far from perfect, but it has gifted us with a lasting peace.
(DIR) Post #AW49Zj5jry3lfsuGzw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:16:08Z
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@wjmaggos 8. DiversityDiversity weaponizes different groups against each other.It obliterates any shared culture, and so society becomes dominated by ideology and commerce.Eventually everything must be dumbed down to avoid offending someone.Then it commits genocide, erasing unique genetic frameworks and replacing them with lower-competence grey race people.End diversity. It is immoral.
(DIR) Post #AW49adu0eFXts0rD84 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:16:18.436994Z
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I recommend the Death Canyon.Lead the MS-13 man-kind to their own design.
(DIR) Post #AW49ehp60rLjBkUqSO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:17:02Z
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@wjmaggos 9. SocialismHalf of the stuff conservatives advocate these days is socialist.I oppose any transfer of wealth from one group to another group.I support a flat tax or maybe a national sales tax in lieu of income tax, and total abolition of property tax.Stop taking from the strong to give to the weak. The weak never rise; they simply become dependent and revengeful.
(DIR) Post #AW49iLyTBj8IaGcWRc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:17:42Z
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@wjmaggos 10. Socialism IIThis includes public schooling.Private schools are competitive; government schools respond only to complaints of injustice, so constantly dumb everything down and preach Communism.
(DIR) Post #AW49olp00A2eU9FZwG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:18:51Z
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@wjmaggos 10. CommunismLiberalism -- the dominance of the individual over culture, nature, and tradition -- is a mental illness.Communism and anarchy weaponize it.These people need to be exiled and if not, shot on sight.I saw what East Germany did to people and I consider Communism to be not just immoral but suicidal.Let them suicide somewhere else on their own dime. They never want to do that, only take yours.
(DIR) Post #AW49uKL95e9ezSw6nw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:19:51Z
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@wjmaggos 11. EqualityIn the human context, equality is not found in nature. It represents a norming of all humans to the lowest common denominator.It must be opposed at all levels, including equality under the law.Those who are more useful get more consideration, and those who are more innocent get more leeway.No, a three-time criminal is not equal to a grandma who never broke the law.
(DIR) Post #AW4A2B8vAWk8mZxirY by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:21:16.412269Z
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Diversity simplifies social interactions to two casts: the offender and the offended.On a summer night in Chicago this translates to the killed and the killers.
(DIR) Post #AW4A391uVimoWD8yGW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:21:27Z
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@wjmaggos 12. EugenicsWe cannot escape natural selection. Whatever we reward or tolerate, we get more of; whatever we punish, we get less of.Now apply that to taxes, diversity, and so on.We are engaging in eugenics whether we like it or not.My solution is twofold:(1) Stop taxing the intelligent and good, and encourage them to have more children(2) Remove the insane, perverse, criminal, and retarded.Humanity needs to kick it up a notch; right now we have low biological quality.
(DIR) Post #AW4AB06hZKzBA68AqW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:22:53Z
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@wjmaggos 13. TraditionConservatism preserves what is eternally true.For low mute load populations like Western Europeans, this looks like:* Manorial feudalism* Social hierarchy* Strong culture* One ethnic group per nation* Naturalistic aesthetics* A master moralityIf this bothers other groups, they must stay away.If they are among us, they must be removed to their ethnic home continents.
(DIR) Post #AW4AG84DOxwlITPg7U by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:23:48Z
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@wjmaggos 14. UkraineYes, lots of people I do not like support this, but a broken clock is right twice a day.The ad hominem format is "you are a Democrat, so you are wrong," and is not logically consistent, even if most Democrats are mostly wrong.Ukraine should be free. They suffered enough under Russia during the Holodomor.
(DIR) Post #AW4AIEFNOa7P2jdQZ6 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:24:10.764271Z
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Muslims.. we still have fucking deranged Muslims.How praying many times a day help you build space stations?
(DIR) Post #AW4AMimdnruSuPKv0i by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:24:59Z
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@wjmaggos 15. The HolocaustIt happened, but not how the history books say, and the six million number is pure fantasy.Under 300k died and they died for the same reasons that inmates in Japanese, British, and Russian concentration camps died: disease.The only solution to pogroms and holocausts is to relocate all Jews and only Jews to Israel.See the bit about diversity.
(DIR) Post #AW4AQyQ5bsjcYuodVo by Tfmonkey@merovingian.club
2023-05-27T02:25:44Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos My issue with eugenics is that the people who direct it make self-interested value judgements that benefits them and theirs and isn't necessarily objective.Who decides who is "good" and deserves to have more children? Who decides who is "perverse" and should be removed?The people directed the eugenics program might decide that your group is perverse and should be removed, while their group is "good" and should be subsidized.Do you see the problem?
(DIR) Post #AW4AS7BgUuOo2ncdPs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:25:58Z
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@wjmaggos 16. LawWe are underutilizing our trial lawyers.Regulations protect the big guy, and costs are passed on down to the consumer.Instead allow lawsuits. These cure corporate bad behavior unlike anything else.Give personhood to lakes, rivers, forests, and prairies. Let people sue for those, and sue when laws are not enforced.
(DIR) Post #AW4AWbFWfaeeRDYd04 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:26:46Z
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@wjmaggos 17. MarriageI favor no fault divorce with no splitting of assets.That is, everyone leaves with what they brought in or generated during the marriage.Yes, this disincentivizes divorce. That is "responsibility." Welcome to it.
(DIR) Post #AW4AbHPTrMvkM4RfmK by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-05-27T02:27:37.515267Z
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When was the last time you were on a space station? 🤔
(DIR) Post #AW4AdGqguumTC57dlg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:27:59Z
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@wjmaggos 18. CompassionTo my mind compassion is twofold:(a) Accept people as they are(b) Understand what they know and what they are trying to do(c) Leave them to their destinyWe cannot save people from themselves or lift up the weak, poor, sad, alienated, marginalized, and so on.What we can do is reduce their cost of living, make the streets safer, and make the trains run on time.Cut the taxes and immigration.
(DIR) Post #AW4AgcExqAC0PJ4RqC by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:28:34.600257Z
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Really?Did you look at what Hungary suffered during the two World Wars?Ukraine WAS the man-power that descended on Hungary in 1849.I personally hope Ukraine and all its man-power burn in hell for what they did to Hungary in 1849.
(DIR) Post #AW4Am9ZNLnKBDwG5mC by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:29:35.832281Z
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When was the last time Islam was for Peace?
(DIR) Post #AW4AoR4nEREe6D2fp2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:30:00Z
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@wjmaggos 19. PollutionWe enabled this because we consider externalities to be someone else's responsibility.One good liability case will establish cradle-to-grave responsibility for all products.Recycling except of metals seems like garbage, so I would just burn the garbage in a responsible manner.This would encourage companies to avoid excessive packaging.If your fast food joint results in litter, you pay, even if you did not do it.
(DIR) Post #AW4Aqyg7GtNQtQiCIK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:30:28Z
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@wjmaggos 20. The Irish[ redacted on advice of counsel ]
(DIR) Post #AW4AuiQtc73JfPNJmS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:31:08Z
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@FourOh-LLC @wjmaggos The Soviets weaponized a number of populations. Many of their greatest generals were Ukranian or Baltic.I do not like it, but I chalk this one up to Communism, sort of like the East German assassins roaming the world offing people.
(DIR) Post #AW4AzjZUo7iqe8n4rY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:32:03Z
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@FourOh-LLC @wjmaggos The problem with most religions is who observes them.A high-IQ, high-realism, and high noble morality person will make a beautiful religion out of anything, even Islam, Judaism, and Presbyterianism.Low-IQ, inbred, starving, and overpopulated people from the third world turn any religion into a blood cult.
(DIR) Post #AW4B39JtX3D3N97byi by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-05-27T02:32:39.658239Z
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When was the last time any country was for peace? Texas sharpshooter fallacy much? 🙄
(DIR) Post #AW4B3WASaIKSEXstxw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:32:43Z
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@FourOh-LLC @wjmaggos This is the victimhood narrative of egalitarianism: take from the strong and give to the weak.The weak, presumed to be perpetual victims, are justified in harming the strong.This always backfires and we get Holocausts, pogroms, race riots, and the other silly stuff.
(DIR) Post #AW4B7O5SZOvuKXOIUa by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:33:26Z
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@FourOh-LLC @wjmaggos Hispanics belong in Mongolia.That is their root continent of ethnic origin.BOATS!Also the Irish belong in North Africa because they are f[redacted on advice of counsel] and [redacted on advice of counsel].
(DIR) Post #AW4BDO2Tf5aDv0rAUS by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:34:30.059728Z
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Hungary was winning the War against the Habsburgs in 1849. All the nations in the conflict were exhausted, then the fresh Ukraine troops were deployed and the revolution was lost.Thanks WW-I to that.
(DIR) Post #AW4BG4MPHa9vktSQbI by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:35:00.274824Z
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Hungary was winning the War against the Habsburgs in 1849. All the nations in the conflict were exhausted, then the fresh Ukraine troops were deployed and the revolution was lost.Thank WW-I to that.
(DIR) Post #AW4BYS8JdQFuhJdGuO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:38:18Z
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@FourOh-LLC @wjmaggos There was nothing good about WW1. What a sad, stupid war.
(DIR) Post #AW4Bc7KutmDNM8H2Z6 by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:38:59Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos Hey, I resemble that remark.
(DIR) Post #AW4BezDHYZs9204SNU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:39:30Z
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@wjmaggos 21. Free speechI have faced jail time and personal ruin for this stance.I believe in absolute free speech, with the caveat that it needs to be appropriate for the audience.That means:(a) No viewpoint is not permitted(b) Maybe it needs to be said with decorumMinorities need to man the fuck up and accept that getting called ethnic slurs is part of life.People using ethnic slurs need to accept that people like me are going to tune out.
(DIR) Post #AW4BnCerS9N72vtAX2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:40:59Z
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@wjmaggos 22. VeganismI do not care.That is, I think it is part of freedom that you be vegan.I have sympathy for this perspective but think it unhealthy for my makeup.I am made to kill and eat, probably not just chicken, pork, fish, beef, and shellfish, but also morons, cowards, yes-men, seatwarmers, and losers.They are made of meat too.
(DIR) Post #AW4Bsi1KHAxRlM1QOG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:41:59Z
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@wjmaggos 23. RacismI do not care.That is, I think it is part of freedom that you be racist.Every group and individual is racist against some group. Those who claim to be the least racist are always the most bigoted against whatever the majority is.The fight against racism, poverty, and drugs is more destructive than the original problem, by far.
(DIR) Post #AW4BvWyXnTiMNP4Aqm by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:42:29Z
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@KillerMule @wjmaggos You, too, are redacted?Happens to the best of us.But the Irish [redacted on advice of counsel].
(DIR) Post #AW4Bw2JtGAD1aaI9vU by admin@detroitriotcity.com
2023-05-27T02:42:34.705655Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos :merchant_usa:
(DIR) Post #AW4C4a7pSJTgkej0i0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:44:08Z
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@wjmaggos 24. "Nice"I believe in being nice to people, but recognize that others are often illogical, and therefore it is impossible to be nice to everyone.Reward the good, punish the bad, ignore those in the middle.
(DIR) Post #AW4CyosTnG78ipMUOu by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T02:54:17Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos just these 25 or they the top 25 (number 10 was used twice so "Nice" shows 24 but actually is the 25th entry)
(DIR) Post #AW4DDEgKeRb2o2YPaK by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:56:53.486833Z
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Well, do thank the fresh cavalry, troops and artillery pieces deployed by Ukraine against the exhausted Hungary in 1849.If Hungary won that Revolution the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary would have met its timely death way before the 19th Century.
(DIR) Post #AW4DNOMFWxrpiC0GkS by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T02:58:44.706777Z
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Well, do thank the fresh cavalry, troops and artillery pieces deployed by Ukraine against the exhausted Hungary in 1849.If Hungary won that Revolution the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary would have met its timely death way before the 20th Century.
(DIR) Post #AW4EbEfeRZEVfzF9n6 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T03:12:26.020629Z
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Listen carefully..Islam is a thing since when? Way before there were firearms.You need to focus before you engage, because of written records."Muslims.. we still have fucking deranged Muslims.How praying many times a day help you build space stations?"Keep focus, answer the fucking question.
(DIR) Post #AW4F1Y2357GDFlGZdo by FreddyFirewall@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T03:17:11Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos but would you hire, date or work for a vegan
(DIR) Post #AW4FNYLMbVAwaenG7M by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T03:21:08.744073Z
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If you are a fucking Muslim be sure to understand this:Muslims do not get along with anyone. Islam is something out of a comic books. If saying fuck Mohamed, suck my dick Allah condemns me to death - Islam has no place in the 21st Century.Change your "religion" or face the consequences.
(DIR) Post #AW4FlVu7KEKtyTTTxQ by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T03:25:29.563248Z
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Islam will be the mass-murdering, terrorist organization we have all come to understand.
(DIR) Post #AW4H356PoOHA18ASUy by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-05-27T03:39:52.012901Z
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You rn:
(DIR) Post #AW4HcmSEcdegbeOdFY by LurkPerry@poa.st
2023-05-27T03:43:23.210120Z
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@Humpleupagus @FourOh-LLC @wjmaggos @amerika I look like this and say that
(DIR) Post #AW4Hcn9U1qFYlmdAf2 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T03:46:18.389349Z
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I removed the offended party being triggered by trashing Islam.
(DIR) Post #AW4HygNvrv769YpN56 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-05-27T03:50:17.992706Z
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> Removes me> Calls me triggered. What a fag.
(DIR) Post #AW4Hzrq8lU3JyBaQgS by JedDrudge@nicecrew.digital
2023-05-27T03:44:11.684433Z
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That leathery neck though...
(DIR) Post #AW4LoPgJW6TNGjmfWC by union@mu.zaitcev.nu
2023-05-27T04:33:12.729989Z
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@FourOh-LLC @wjmaggos @amerika I also thing that Golodomor thing was a fault of commies, of which many were Ukrainians or Jews (not to mention, Stalin was a Georgian). In addition, Ukies already had their revenge during the WW2. They allied with Hitler, raped, pillaged, tortured, and then lost the war. So whatever, golodomor no longer counts.
(DIR) Post #AW525j9Oa3ryeIKDuy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T12:26:59Z
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@FreddyFirewall @wjmaggos Depends on the other signals.Most people have three-up, three-down.That is: three positive traits, three big negatives.If those big negatives overlap with things we cannot have in the office or home... no.But often they do not.Veganism is a minor signal.Blue hair, Communist politics, promiscuity, personal finance problems, drug/drink problems, general emotional instability... those are deal killers.
(DIR) Post #AW528uyx31ACDExg80 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T12:27:34Z
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@greyknight33 @wjmaggos This is an ongoing project, and I had to work around the lack of actual threading in this software, so there may be some numbering confusion.
(DIR) Post #AW52Qty7YQ0qHY9G8O by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T12:30:49Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos I always wonder why people care.Everybody hates something, somebody, and some group.Everyone is racist against some group.Everyone detests some religion.That is not a problem -- it is like managing a seating chart at a party -- but trying to deny it is a huge problem.Your average church strikes me as insane, but similarly, your average politician or celebrity does...Why do we give religion such a special category here?
(DIR) Post #AW52WK321HaOc51vRA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T12:31:48Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos Can we say that Islam is more insane than Joel Osteen or Dylan Mulvaney?Or even George W. Bush or Joe Biden?It can do more damage, but most of that has to do with third world overpopulation, inbreeding, and low average IQ.It is considered not polite to mention these things; that, in itself, is a bigger problem than Islam!
(DIR) Post #AW52jykC1Wn0avjLAO by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T12:34:15.296788Z
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People should separate things based on what they control.People do born with a skin color or a sexual disposition. They do not born to be Communists, Muslims or transgender.Any argument protecting your retard choices is admission of guilt.
(DIR) Post #AW52uhvsruGxdlJZDM by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T12:36:13.494994Z
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People should separate things based on what they control.People do born with a skin color or a sexual disposition. They do not born to be Communists, Muslims or transgender.Any argument protecting retard choices is admission of guilt.
(DIR) Post #AW52wb1xV7eQoU3ZQW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T12:36:33Z
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@union @wjmaggos @FourOh-LLC What does spelling it "Golodomor" mean? Is this de-Anglicized?Communists got everything wrong. They did many horrible things.I see no reason to stop noticing the Holodomor as a good example of typical Communist activity.
(DIR) Post #AW538eS0bvLKtazQEy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T12:38:44Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos I think we should separate things based on what works.Multiple religions, races, cultures, or ethnicities in the same nation does not work.The third world also has a chip on its shoulder because it is poor, disorganized, corrupt, filthy, and low average IQ with high mute load, which enrages it because it is never going to live the nice first world life no matter what it does (with one exception).
(DIR) Post #AW53CyTM71f49NgHY0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T12:39:30Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos That exception is described here:https://www.amerika.org/texts/creating-the-african-superman/
(DIR) Post #AW54qx6ciFUfRufuT2 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T12:57:56.041578Z
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You wrote this in 2006, and I have no idea what all that means.Do not forget, the African blacks were already slaves - BEFORE the whites brought them to the American continent.Wakanda is a fantasy, the blacks are doomed, self-destructing people. The African blacks may still build something resembling that superman, but the blacks in the US are fucked. They have good, credible leaders and role-models like Candace Owens and Dr. Ben Carson, but their elites are best described as deceptive and useless.
(DIR) Post #AW588LCefkxYyGTmZk by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T13:34:41.013976Z
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Hmm...Works for who?The age-old trick politicians use is to promise things they have no control over - such as "end racism", "unite the people".So the focus should be on control, because the politicians also promise things that WORK - "reduce regulation" but they cannot control. If California decides to regulate something you know its going to happen.I had to think about this for a little, because you do make a good point. But to be pragmatic, you need to dismiss the pie-in-the-sky.
(DIR) Post #AW5APaD8KLbALd3Jb6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:00:13Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos Big point is this: give me any population, let me apply eugenic pressures, and you will end up with a higher-performing population.If, for example, we IQ tested all Blacks and killed off all of the ones under 120 IQ points, you would end up with a much stronger population.Same way if we started filtering out weak and stupid Whites we could restore Western Civilization.
(DIR) Post #AW5AUusKvMdZsyrsdU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:01:11Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos Only some Blacks were enslaved and those were mostly war captives and criminals who were going to be executed anyway.Almost all of them were Bantu, a group which was originally small but took over Africa through aggressive breeding.There have been great kingdoms in Africa, like Aksum and its predecessors, but they were most likely eugenic monarchies.
(DIR) Post #AW5AbS56NWUabqxIGG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:02:22Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos Let us take an easy example: capitalism is eugenic, socialism is dysgenic, and as California has moved from the former to the latter, it has become more of an Idiocracy.My point in mentioning this here is: the only way for the third world to be equal is hard eugenics. They are undoing centuries of bad breeding including race-mixing, inbreeding, and dysgenic breeding for religious or political reasons.
(DIR) Post #AW5B2rTI5QMDAsL6LQ by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-05-27T14:07:19.660969Z
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Yes, I understand that and I fully agree.Only morons deny that what works for "refining" the species in grasses and trees, for cats, dogs and horses also works for humans.
(DIR) Post #AW5B7A7YgqcWAnE12W by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:08:04Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos People do not like to face this, but the data is clear: there is a direct correlation between IQ and degree of development.High-IQ nations have functional institutions, relatively sedate governments, industry, cleanliness, order, and accumulate learning.Low-IQ nations tend to be corrupt, ruled by warlords, have no industry, be filthy, chaotic, theocratic, socialist, and defiantly ignorant.The Leftists are just the third world party.
(DIR) Post #AW5BDHGX2Tze4NL292 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:09:12Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos This is why "humanism" was created: precisely to deny that 'what works for "refining" the species in grasses and trees, for cats, dogs and horses also works for humans.'That was well-written, by the way. "Refining." I like that. As opposed to Utopian reinvention.Equality is the opposite of natural selection and therefore, quality.
(DIR) Post #AW5BHcIcmIVCSlO0Fk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:09:59Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos How do we handle this in a compassionate way?We do it how nature does.Instead of taking from the strong to give to the weak, let the strong rise and leave the weak alone.The strong will then outbreed the weak, the weak will hybridize and become less weak, and over time you get the only real "equitable" society.
(DIR) Post #AW5BMW5LJGVedbVgky by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:10:52Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos Eugenics and natural selection work by two prongs:1. Remove the insane and dysfunctional2. Make sure the sane and functional breed moreFor example, mice that ignore the sound of owl wings tend to die before reproducing.Mice that learn to pay attention to their environment thrive.Over time, the second group outbreeds the first, and the whole species gains those traits.
(DIR) Post #AW5BRrxhOrfDw2UGw4 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:11:49Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos Naturally, in every generation some mutation occurs, and some of those are deleterious, for example making mice that cannot hear or ignore the sound of owls.Then those get reaped and the rest have less of this problem.Humanity thinks in binaries, but nature thinks in clines, grades, and spectra.
(DIR) Post #AW5C74rKLxhfoA9lE8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:19:17Z
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@FourOh-LLC @LurkPerry @wjmaggos I might add here that politicians love symbolic quests.These can never be won, which means they can never be lost.* War on drugs* War on racism* War on poverty* War on terrorism* War on smoking* War on alcoholism
(DIR) Post #AW5CzOg6slwAugoML2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:29:06Z
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@wjmaggos 25. The Horseshoe TheoryThe horseshoe theory states that far-Right and far-Left are the same because they rely on totalitarian methods.In other words, means (methods) not ends (goals) are what define them.This is complete nonsense. Here is the breakdown:* Right = order* Left = individualismMore likely, whenever any society has too many rules, it becomes unstable and resorts to extreme methods.
(DIR) Post #AW5D6N6d7tq042XdeS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:30:22Z
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@wjmaggos Of course, the buried lede here is that the Right prefers a society with few rules which is driven by incentives.Rules are a means-over-ends proposition: if we limit what people do to only the acceptable, this will make the bad good and change everyone's thinking via social engineering.This dodges the question of goals, forming a shattered society that quickly becomes a dark organization.
(DIR) Post #AW5DNyfQjAvZTuDKrY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:33:33Z
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@wjmaggos 26. "Muh Freedom"I do not believe in freedom. It is a form of individualism that is inherently egalitarian.Traditional societies believed in paired duties and privileges.That is, the more you could do, the more power you had.Freedom is a proxy for keeping government from micromanaging you in order to socially engineer you to achieve its ideological ends.Just question the ends instead.
(DIR) Post #AW5DWo0xhgAX35Ukro by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:35:08Z
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@wjmaggos Many conservatives seem to want anarchy.This is foolish, in my view. Freedom, democracy, equality, anarchy, liberty... all synonyms for proxies for social order that in fact degrade it.A sane society rewards good behavior, punishes bad behavior, and leaves everyone else tf alone.Theocracy is like Leftism, an attempt to socially engineer good behavior in those who are bad.This just hides badness and gives it power.
(DIR) Post #AW5Dn7PjLPhRqfrJKq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:38:06Z
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@wjmaggos 27. Buy AmericanThis one hit me early in life, when the Japanese were eating our lunch in the automobile industry.People said "buy American," and it seemed to me to be working against ourselves with natural selection.If the American product is inferior, and you buy it anyway, you are subsidizing inferiority... a lot like Communism.You keep the whole corrupt system of unions and bloated monopolies intact that way.Buy only the _good_ American products. Reject the bad.
(DIR) Post #AW5DvtvmqKZqdd2apM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:39:41Z
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@wjmaggos This was at the same time I observed the Bell Curve in classes regarding behavior (not IQ, although there was much overlap).In any given class of thirty kids:* Five kids were responsible for most of the problems* Five other kids were always answering the hard questions that were memorization-based* Five kids were in back, intelligent and bored, totally disconnected* Everyone else was focused on something else, usually socializing
(DIR) Post #AW5E4ICmTb96EuzVVg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-27T14:41:12Z
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@wjmaggos It was clear to me immediately that the five problem kids just needed to be removed. Something was wrong that was being subsidized by everyone else.I was most concerned with the kids in back and the "everyone else" group. They needed something different.The memorizers never impressed me but they were probably perfect for a bureaucracy.
(DIR) Post #AW6Yo593Yf81ISJvCC by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T06:08:16Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos the list definitely needs a little love but if a work in progress, makes sense. good luck and happy writing!
(DIR) Post #AW6Z3vqbtTSF5uFZQ0 by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-05-28T06:11:04.612071Z
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@amerika @greyknight33 @wjmaggos why are you not using pleroma? and using masodont
(DIR) Post #AW7ASjLdCVups3Rpr6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T13:10:13Z
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@dcc @wjmaggos @greyknight33 I like this instance.
(DIR) Post #AW7AVWCkWWbXybcgWu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T13:10:43Z
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@greyknight33 @wjmaggos It's just the awkward nature of this interface. The work in progress is the last few decades of writing. None of this is new.
(DIR) Post #AW7AWD90sIAL9TCoAy by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-05-28T13:10:48.061973Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos @greyknight33 hosting your own instance is quite nice
(DIR) Post #AW7AjVYLk82U0fOg4G by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T13:13:15Z
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@wjmaggos One more thing to add: Leftists confuse "valid" and "accurate."They often say that we are _not listening_, but this is the tantrum of a child or the statement of someone who cannot see the world except as they do.We are listening. We know what you stand for. That does not mean we accept it.
(DIR) Post #AW7AqB10V5MML8ytZg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T13:14:27Z
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@wjmaggos Properly:* Right = order (ends-over-means)* Left = individualism (means-over-ends)When you are individualistic, there is no goal and you rely on perpetuation and expansion of the self as a method. Sort of like equality: there is no goal, only a repeated method that is assumed to bring us to a messianic Utopia.Leftists are properly described as Utopians and egalitarians.Conservatives are NEVER egalitarian, and anyone who says otherwise is a fake.
(DIR) Post #AW7AvQNantXFRJ31Oq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T13:15:24Z
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@dcc @wjmaggos @greyknight33 I have my hands full with hosting tasks as it is, unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #AW7VLkea2va2vkpC4m by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:04:15Z
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@wjmaggos I guess everyone is weight in on transsexualism, Budweiser, Target, and so on.I say we let everyone find their own path. However, we do not subsidize it. Subsidized medicine (sorry, "socialized healthcare") is responsible for the recent transsexual trend.In most eras, transsexuals have been far less than 1% of the population, but now they seem to be ten or twenty percent.This is a social trend that is funded by government healthcare.
(DIR) Post #AW7VTI7nzzROld5cxs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:05:35Z
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@wjmaggos That being said, I think DADT is the best approach for LGBTHIVBBQ+ people: we do not talk about it, and in return, we can get along, just like we do with swingers.Your weird sex is not our business, and you should be left alone. You should not be bullied. But you should also not talk about it.Homosexual stuff grosses out heterosexuals, and vice-versa. We can get along by keeping these matters private.
(DIR) Post #AW7Ved4wQvrOwK9lbM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:07:40Z
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@wjmaggos All that being said... every store advertises to its audience.If I see BLM, Communism, LGBT+, La Raza, Tikkun Olam, Evangelical, or Green propaganda, I am going to (correctly) assume that I am not the target audience of the store.I like other heritage Americans seek out what is compatible with our values, genetics, lifestyle, and aesthetic ideals.Same way if I went to a croissant store and it had an anti-butter poster out front, I would make myself scarce fast.
(DIR) Post #AW7Visz3F00rQVQn4a by TheMadPirate@freespeechextremist.com
2023-05-28T17:08:27.657882Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos > We can get along by keeping these matters private.Now how do we get raging Machiavellian narcissists to keep these things private and not try to impose themselves on others ?
(DIR) Post #AW7VjTzLerEeC8r3Am by BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital
2023-05-28T17:08:33.402864Z
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WTFBBQ is just the natural result of the zeal to elevate every possible minority, *esp jews*, above the majority. It's jewish evolutionary strategy writ large.
(DIR) Post #AW7VtqONDUiaZfV6JM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:10:25Z
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@wjmaggos I might add a quick note on conformity, tolerance, and pacifism:The big secret is that "normal" is a range. It means you adapt to reality. That is it, really, in my view.There is room for lots of neurodivergence, eccentricity, passionate beliefs, interests in odd things, esotericism, and so on.People used to be more accepting of each other. Now the fear is so great that they only like narrow ranges.(borrowed from another post)
(DIR) Post #AW7W9mIAEEnsUWC5nk by netdoll@rot.gives
2023-05-28T17:11:13.818845Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos This is an interesting premise, but to my eye, it doesn't seem to concur with the evidence available. Folk wisdom in most trans communities I've been in is that unless you're doing everything "by the books" due to being susceptible to appeals to authority or being a lawcuck, govt funded trans clinics are famously terrible and it's literally a better deal to do everything out of pocket while remaining blind to the system. Informed consent as a model alongside DIY is literally only able to exist because of private enterprise and arbitrage and oftentimes these things work totally out of pocket (assuming your insurance doesn't cover it, which is a distinct possiblity in America and all but a guarantee elsewhere)
(DIR) Post #AW7XIrVKJotXDXFKfA by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:26:09Z
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@wjmaggos The point is that we do not want tolerance.We want acceptance for who we are."Tolerance" masks a desire to set up a universal standard and enforce it, then make exceptions/subsidies for those who conform.Acceptance means taking people as they are and, if they are harming nothing, leaving them tf alone.
(DIR) Post #AW7XPn7R1PHXdxNK7c by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:27:24Z
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@wjmaggos Pacifism holds that we should give up on ends, and make our method that of tolerating all behavior even though we know some of it is harmful.Harmful behavior should never be tolerated.Yes, bad people will try to redefine "harmful" like they have done with smoking ditch weed and having opinions against the Great Replacement.One must always be vigilant. There is never a chance to rest and forget about government and the future.
(DIR) Post #AW7XYsMosX74Whu3lY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:29:02Z
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@netdoll @wjmaggos Around here, the major hospitals do the surgeries and bill Uncle Sam. Your results may vary elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #AW7XbynjPgitLlyGMy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:29:37Z
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@TheMadPirate @wjmaggos If someone is a narcissist, we have bigger problems than their sexual activity.Narcissists are harmful and need to be segregated or removed from the general population.
(DIR) Post #AW7XjHCrNhOUSbCiI4 by netdoll@rot.gives
2023-05-28T17:28:51.486232Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos Yeah, SRS is a bit of a special case. But my understanding is that most trans ppl don't opt for it because it's really expensive and hateful no matter how you go about it, same with FFS to a lesser extent. Just the bog standard hormones regimen is dirt cheap on or off insurance, and it's what most everyone (yours truly included) opts for.
(DIR) Post #AW7XpmO8MQrquGZuJU by errante@rot.gives
2023-05-28T17:30:02.487003Z
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@netdoll @amerika @wjmaggos a lot of srs surgeries (so not many, theyre rare) are done abroad also, iirc
(DIR) Post #AW7Y0mkNMptLCkEIfQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-28T17:34:05Z
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@errante @wjmaggos @netdoll Here is the American legal ruling, by the way:https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/05/18/2016-11458/nondiscrimination-in-health-programs-and-activitiesInteresting legal buzzword salad. It gets worse for the easy concepts, which seems to be the opposite way one would think it would be.Where I live, I imagine most people just go to Mexico for drugs. Thanks to all for your input.
(DIR) Post #AW7YdFAi8JUKMmszhI by netdoll@rot.gives
2023-05-28T17:38:57.498480Z
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@errante @amerika @wjmaggos Yeah, Thailand is the stereotype it is for a reason. Suporn graduates etc.
(DIR) Post #AW9brD4FRReC4b8NKy by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-29T17:26:35Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos just mean there seems to be some conflicts in the list, maybe its a "nice-to-have" list vs a what will actually happen list. i can't say much cuz if no one voiced their "nice-to-have" list, the result will be quite... shit.
(DIR) Post #AW9vo8rScdH5F4y2e8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-29T21:10:09Z
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@greyknight33 @wjmaggos > there seems to be some conflicts in the listWhich did you have in mind?
(DIR) Post #AWAEzl9kTsQaKIm63E by Beefki@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T00:45:08Z
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@amerikaI'm generally anti-abortion because we know what causes babies. I'm in favor of contraception as a result.I think abortions are okay given the right circumstances. Rape, incest, risk to the mother, etc are fine. Most are elective and that is not okay.Allow them but call them a baby murdering. No more euphemisms.@wjmaggos
(DIR) Post #AWBalNbRArPIG995RQ by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T16:23:45Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos well there's some nice-to-have vs what actually will happen but i believe announcing concepts is required to ensure other viewpoints are heard. the biggest one for me is the reduction of taxes and gov't yet "Reward the good, punish the bad, ignore those in the middle". just not sure who's the arbiter of who's "good" and who's "bad". sounds like a morality conflict which requires consensus, which starts to nip at the other items in the list (i.e. culture, tradition)
(DIR) Post #AWBasUGQo3dewhi2QS by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T16:25:02Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos imo, its a great summary list to get the ball rolling h/e implementation-wise, it'd likely be just good food for thought. well i guess besides the Irish one since there's nothing there as advised LOL
(DIR) Post #AWBbtYrVISXxRx7r3Q by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T16:36:15Z
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@greyknight33haven't you been paying attention? the very smart @amerika decides all things, or someone who agrees with him 100% and isn't "diverse". we just have to get him in power and keep him there, whatever horrors that may temporarily entail for us and the people we love. it will all be worth it, someday, he promises us. only low IQ mixed bloods wouldn't see the logic of it all.
(DIR) Post #AWBcrl6mtSGGo4yl0a by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T16:47:20Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika nah gotta say you are off track here. i do the same thing. if i ask the question, ppl ignore me. if i state something that isn't right, ppl jump on me to correct me. its just human nature so stating something drives feedback. that being the case, stating something drives developing a thesis further.no one person knows all answers so we have to discuss together for the more truthful answer. if one can't agree with discourse then that person is being manipulated.
(DIR) Post #AWBdTgoLJt1aTyREnY by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T16:54:09Z
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@greyknight33 how long have you been following @amerika? he believes in monarchy and thinks they need to push the policies he has laid out over many years.
(DIR) Post #AWBdt8xRo7vZ1Apn4S by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T16:58:47Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika ok so he has a belief that you don't agree with so he should be silenced and outcasted? his point of view should be censored and not brought to open forum for discussion/debate?
(DIR) Post #AWBfDyJIgpXE1xYFY8 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T17:13:44Z
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@greyknight33 @amerikawhy do you assume I think that? I do not. I completely defend his right to be heard and not censored. but I think he should be subjected to the same fair criticism that we do the M5M. same with alt media personalities who push conspiracies, and the ancaps who say don't vote etc. there are no perfect solutions, but instead of an open conversation about goals and trade-offs, people fall into ideological camps. warring propaganda instead of a search for the best available.
(DIR) Post #AWBgAb7cXz2tCN2kVc by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T17:24:21Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika t'was my alternative response to the simple "and what about it?" except more direct.i dont' get triggered by buzz words but prefer to hear out someone's point of view and then layer on my thoughts.warring propaganda shows how the low IQ are easily manipulated. unfortunately, they are the vast majority and then seat themselves into their camps ready to attack the opposing ideology, like literally attack. all starts with someone voicing an opinion and people hating on it
(DIR) Post #AWBhXP5dY1fcUqYPPU by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T17:39:40Z
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@greyknight33 @amerikathe problem is not low IQs but the lack of a critical thinking education. our cultural narcissism that refuses to truly consider other perspectives."I do this but they do that."
(DIR) Post #AWBiFoPKmKD7l9wVpA by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T17:47:42Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika not isolated to just "our" culture otherwise that would insinuate other cultures are perfect.now, if we take your statement at face value, then democracy is broken with each person's cultural narcissism and lack of considering other perspectives. still sounds like there's a "class" of ppl that are contributing to the problem.i definitely see your point with low IQ ppl, without them, lots of jobs would not get done. but can they be easily manipulated?
(DIR) Post #AWBpNoPXLjLllWnclk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:07:33Z
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@wjmaggos @greyknight33 That's classic Dunning-Kruger Effect however...
(DIR) Post #AWBpOpsRNqu6bPo64G by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:07:46Z
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@wjmaggos @greyknight33 Critical thinking cannot be taught to people under 120 IQ or thereabouts.
(DIR) Post #AWBpYi51ECbZJeOmdk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:09:32Z
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@greyknight33 @wjmaggos The most sensible approach is to choose that which is most:* Realistic* Quality* Enduring* EfficientThis is what nature does, after all.It is important to know "ends," i.e. goals, first, before choosing means to get there.
(DIR) Post #AWBpdiTXBYPZzSFjtI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:10:27Z
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@wjmaggos @greyknight33 Low IQ people of any sort see very little.I dunno where the hostility and scorn comes from, but yes, I argue hard for realism.Pluralism is a fiction, EXCEPT in #OpenDiscussion, as I say.At some point, choices must be made... or are made for us, which is where democracy, anarchy, communism, entitlements, etc. lead.
(DIR) Post #AWBpfjoRBWPAiTzhKK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:10:49Z
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@wjmaggos @greyknight33 Monarchy is our only option.Everything else is shades of oligarchy.
(DIR) Post #AWBrEyakKOmOduxOWO by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T19:28:22Z
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@amerika @greyknight33 not that it actually matters, but all that happens in nature is the species who populates best wins. if they are dumb but better at surviving and making babies, they displace the others who require the same food source. unless they eliminate that food source. etc etc. "nature" has no concept of ends. WTF are you talking about?most IQs are fine at thinking thru problems. the problem is they get dismissed and told not to think about the big picture by people like you.
(DIR) Post #AWBs9kPRjJGNACk4bg by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T19:38:34Z
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@amerika @greyknight33 you don't argue for realism. realism is what is here. you're constantly selling us as being on a path to destruction, unsupported by most evidence. my hostility comes from realizing that you're a propagandist, posing as someone trying to get people to think critically. you have a goal that will suck imo, but just like ancapistan, I can't prove it. you avoid talking about the short term horror. and when I try to engage you in good faith about your arguments, you dodge.
(DIR) Post #AWBt1Eeg0XksJhN3iq by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:48:18Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos 💯 only way an means violates the 4 points you brought up (well only 3, nature cares not about quality) is if its artificially propped up. of course, that resource train will run out. the one doing the "propping" forgets that Mother Nature outlasts them and is very patient :)
(DIR) Post #AWBtI6ZXJT9sAf0ivo by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:51:22Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos why so? all forms of gov't lead to oligarchy unless there is a final arbiter? i guess an advanced technocracy is just another oligarchy?
(DIR) Post #AWBtWd0bVlZepEb34a by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:54:00Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika wait, the species that makes babies the most will beat out all other species? i might be retarded but doesn't that sound like a open season buffet for that extremely fertile species' predator?i think the balance of nature is lost in this statement.
(DIR) Post #AWBtivTgfZbZa642CG by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T19:56:12Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika yeah can't disagree with your observations here but that's where i change my perspective. instead of a holistic convincing, just take the bits you need to improve yourself. taking anyone 100% at face value is the work of hyper liberals.give the book "The Technological Society" a read (Jacques Ellul). it may help unlock some of the missing perspectives.
(DIR) Post #AWBuEZC93JMJjqwjFQ by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:01:56Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika completely makes sense. and a true democracy is just mob rule, which is back to oligarchy (those who pull the strings of the mob).so assuming monarchy is the answer, how does a society ensure the monarchy doesn't operate like an oligarchy. honestly seems like its inevitable as the oligarchy uses its power to gain and retain control.really seeming like its a morality vs power issue which no law can prevent.
(DIR) Post #AWBv1V88x8uLK2PNEe by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:10:45Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika and when he fails to do so? (bribed too much, invested too much, etc.)
(DIR) Post #AWBvFCOpOHiNHdkBc0 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:13:15Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika exactly, like how bad things happen with bad prime ministers, bad presidents, bad dictators, bad [fill in title here].doesn't sound like its the gov't system that is the problem, its the leader who is "entrusted" that's the problem.
(DIR) Post #AWBvSijMUm45JznPxg by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:15:42Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika now how to enforce a good monarch?
(DIR) Post #AWBwiGb6xeIKeiuicS by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T20:29:40Z
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@greyknight33 I actually said "better at surviving and making babies" and I didn't say it would beat out all other species. what actually happens is realism. it's not about those qualities. @amerika wants to tie his arguments to nature as evidence we should support them over what we're doing now. monarchy is more natural than anarchy? evolution demands diversity. he knows his arguments are weak, but he's not playing to a critical audience, they just want arguments that sound intellectual.
(DIR) Post #AWBxEER2XJuNDRRf5k by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:35:29Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika got it and makes sense. still i guess "my topic" addresses the underlying problem. even with a good king, there's still no long term solution on the table at current. maybe a form of chivalry as currency? we just monitized and thus incentivized the wrong behaviors? there could be a real solution h/e we based our understanding of power on material wealth (control of resources). that's Mother Nature's control over us?
(DIR) Post #AWBxHwNRcLh6MtX2Q4 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T20:36:05Z
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@book @amerika @greyknight33all this stuff has been thought through and come to some pretty decent structural compromises via the Enlightenment and the Constitution etc. a well educated and informed public can make it function as best as possible, and improve it as necessary.IMO
(DIR) Post #AWBxdsunAcSQ09asDI by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:40:08Z
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@wjmaggos i disagree with the "making babies" part but agree with the "surviving". if we were all androids, i doubt you'd need babies yet we would still rule.monarchy is observed in nature (lion pride, alpha wolf, etc.) however the whole of nature is definitely run through anarchy. the down side with anarchy is an advanced civilization would never come to existence. its a fallacy to believe that ppl will live harmoniously without some governing body. for one,imagine if the food was running out
(DIR) Post #AWBxgx7RznTfuQyfK4 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:40:41Z
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@wjmaggos @book @amerika and how does a society ensure it is a well educated and informed society?
(DIR) Post #AWBy6Bc1FREO69JA6i by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:45:14Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika doesn't mean there isn't a solution. i have a business problem, i seek a solution. you could say that its a problem with a solution but you could say that for anything. if there are problems with no solutions, i could have said that about my business problem. sounds like a cop out imo
(DIR) Post #AWByBzwhXJgFeXklKC by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T20:46:08Z
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@book @amerika @greyknight33more education based on critical thinking and supporting/spreading the best journalism. maybe it will never be good enough for you but we are better at this than most people ever have been.
(DIR) Post #AWByCfAyFASLWfkEl6 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:46:24Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika same thing the Founding Fathers of America thought? doubt it.
(DIR) Post #AWByfZzcapkNqhDzV2 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:51:38Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika one solution is to create a proto-star that orbits the opposite side of the Earth at all times. could even be siphoned off the Sun with a dyson sphere.like i said, just stating "impossible" doesn't mean it is.
(DIR) Post #AWByzCaBLFWB2DgMJE by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:55:11Z
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@wjmaggos @book @amerika maybe there are more critical thinkers on Earth now because there are more ppl but i doubt there's a higher percentage. plus there are lots of great journalists who get censored or murdered. your intentions seem very on point and honorable but in real life, i doubt it will work. an uninformed society with parrot journalism is good for business and the current party's control.
(DIR) Post #AWBz1V87M12N8aeSv2 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:55:36Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika maybe living under george was better?
(DIR) Post #AWBzFaXq1DKfzAOpiC by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T20:58:09Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika splitting atoms. damn crazy theories. should just burn coal like normal ppl.
(DIR) Post #AWBzWL7AdmMB3KuhtY by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T21:01:10Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika won't disagree with that at all. especially with oversocializing of today. maybe there's more in number tho if one proved there are actually less, i'd be 0% surprised.i would be completely astounded if the percentage of ppl increased. i'd question the data at that point. makes no sense.
(DIR) Post #AWC4T4dzv9BSs9Wwme by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T21:56:36Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 It's true. You either produce good leaders and enough smart people to recognize them and support them, or it is over for you.Democracy works against this by degrading the quality of everything.The best way to have good monarchs is to have an active and healthy aristocracy which polices itself and keeps the middle classes at bay.
(DIR) Post #AWC4WM61UVDjrrCh9M by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T21:57:12Z
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@wjmaggos @greyknight33 > realism is what is here.I think you have confused pragmatism and realism.
(DIR) Post #AWC6iFNMVE4sPN70MK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:21:45Z
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@greyknight33 @wjmaggos @book It breeds more people above 120 IQ points.
(DIR) Post #AWC6lmEOns2BAzbRIG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:22:24Z
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@wjmaggos @book @greyknight33 Compromises are a lack of direction, not a direction.The egalitarian fallacy consists of using methods to regulate people who have differing abilities.Most people cannot make these decisions and it is not fair to ask them to.
(DIR) Post #AWC6onl9ZsLYmjMjoG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:22:56Z
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@greyknight33 @book @wjmaggos Different populations have different average IQs.When your leadership is bad, average IQs drop.
(DIR) Post #AWC7FfQWfNkqlCWmxM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:27:45Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 Sort of. Another way to say this: there is no Utopia.That is, the human problems that we know will always be with us, probably because they are inherent pitfall to intelligence or the lack thereof.We cannot end greed, stupidity, envy, scapegoating, narcissism, and other pathologies, but we can limit them with a system of government that incentivizes something better.
(DIR) Post #AWC7Nj219FF2FyuHAm by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:29:15Z
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@greyknight33 @book @wjmaggos Yes and no.We cannot "solve" human frailty, only reduce its frequency and influence.But as soon as we admit some problems have no solutions, people will be clamoring to list all problems under that banner.No solutions = anarchy = human "talking monkeys with car keys" play while the teacher is away.People love futility.
(DIR) Post #AWC7SSAfGLFnPeCopU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:30:06Z
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@greyknight33 @book @wjmaggos On the other hand, saying there are no solutions to _some_ problems splits the population.There are those who are fine with it.There are those who want to crusade against those problems anyway.Like... you know... socialists.Poverty will always be with us.In any human group, someone will be the dumbest in the room, and he is gonna be the poorest or close to it.
(DIR) Post #AWC7Ucq6ZK1T4yco1g by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:30:30Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 Technology is worth pursuing in its own right if we can keep from self-destructing.
(DIR) Post #AWC7ZOXv8dM4CIOSmG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:31:21Z
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@greyknight33 @book @wjmaggos The American Revolutionw was as much a tantrum against government from 4k miles away conveyed by handwritten letters in sailing ships as it was any kind of ideological venture.
(DIR) Post #AWC7d3C8SpoB8Swlpw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:32:01Z
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@wjmaggos @book @greyknight33 I disagree. People now are dumb as rocks as compared to people even a few generations ago."Education" cannot raise intelligence."Critical thinking" applies only to those above a certain IQ level.
(DIR) Post #AWC7fIL97obigfEQgC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:32:26Z
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@wjmaggos @book @greyknight33 Journalism is a product, just like science writing.It will not save us, only create the illusion of control.
(DIR) Post #AWC7lbzOyy8LMk4bD6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:33:34Z
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@greyknight33 @book @wjmaggos If you are looking for the absolute solution to everything, you are going to end up at massive generalization of method, sort of like "natural selection," "gravity," or "time."You need good kings, good aristocrats to support them, and good quality people beneath them.Then you have to watch out for middle class takeover because those people are covert morons.
(DIR) Post #AWC85N7DzbGT1k9dya by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-30T22:37:06Z
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@amerika @book @greyknight33when you have to compromise with other people, say re something like where to go to dinner, what do you do?
(DIR) Post #AWC8I3C1NM830ERZZo by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:39:26Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 This is consistent with my observation. Even at its best, democracy is a moribund oligarchy ruled by illusions.
(DIR) Post #AWC8K4PTp0ARMAhaPQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:39:45Z
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@greyknight33 @book @wjmaggos Government systems that reward manipulators tend to end badly.Like emocracy.
(DIR) Post #AWC8MBmNOTJun7QDmi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:40:09Z
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@greyknight33 @book @wjmaggos The whole point of a king is that you cannot bribe him.That is, until the middle classes impoverish him.
(DIR) Post #AWC8Tl1Ukx5M7p6Pxo by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:41:33Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 Oligarchy is the default human system.A few warlords own everything and nearly everyone is retarded and criminal.That's Mexico, Brazil, Russia, Italy, South Africa, Vietnam, Turkey, Libya, China, India, Pakistan, and Louisiana in a nutshell.
(DIR) Post #AWC8aByRT0ipRtk76G by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:42:43Z
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@greyknight33 @wjmaggos Mother nature is waiting to absorb humanity and try again.We will live on as hominids, which is basically how most of the third world lives anyway.
(DIR) Post #AWC8eZFUsAO6nGo3o8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:43:30Z
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@wjmaggos @greyknight33 We are clearly on a path to destruction; in fact, much of the destruction has already occurred.You do not have world wars like we did in a sane system, nor the debt we have, nor the pollution, nor the garbage culture, nor the bullshit wage slave McJobs, etc. etc.You have to be hard in denial not to see this.
(DIR) Post #AWC8h80mb45pBg93Ro by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:43:58Z
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@wjmaggos @greyknight33 Nature rewards those who can breed and feed.In human civilization, human selection takes over for natural selection.It then creates idiocracy and self-destructs.
(DIR) Post #AWC8nZA8Yzed8EaevI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:45:07Z
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@wjmaggos @book @greyknight33 Hardly an analogy to government, don't you think?I usually go where someone else wants to go because the choice itself does not matter to me; I want to see these people.I do not compromise on who I see however. Invite idiots or dangerous people, and people like me drop out of social engagements.
(DIR) Post #AWC8paBXjS3GsnD2y8 by D00B@seal.cafe
2023-05-30T22:45:29.227143Z
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@book @wjmaggos @amerika @greyknight33 agreeableness: 0. 🤝
(DIR) Post #AWC8sAC6p1Zd8shl44 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:45:57Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 At some point, you have realists versus Utopians.The realists say that humanity is what it is and always has been and will never change, so we focus on rewarding good behavior and punishing bad.The Utopians believe they can socially engineer a neutered pacifistic race of humans who will avoid conflict and live in "Imagine" forever.
(DIR) Post #AWC8w73ORNB0YnVkzg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:46:40Z
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@D00B @wjmaggos @greyknight33 @book If you are serious about your goal, you do not compromise.If you are more interested in pacifism than goals, then compromise is a good idea.
(DIR) Post #AWC8zf7aEbFT5VAD4K by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-30T22:47:19Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 Let me put it this way:This city has better restaurants than anywhere I have ever been.I am still skeptical of them. Restaurant food has to appeal widely so tends to be over-dramatized.Home cooking beats it out most of the time.
(DIR) Post #AWCH63wFg1NJQaQUTI by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-31T00:18:00Z
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@book @amerika @greyknight33I'm asking when you have to compromise, what do you do? when you care what the result is. being social creatures, solving our disagreements is a core reason we have government imo. it's the same issue, but harder cause there's more people. what do you do? I don't think more people means we get to get rid of some people cause they look at the world differently, are of a different ethnicity or dumber.
(DIR) Post #AWDKSbHKtTkkDngd3A by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-31T12:30:28Z
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@amerika @D00B @greyknight33 @bookso how many times have you hurt people, or even threatened it, in order to not have to compromise? you're all full of shit.
(DIR) Post #AWDbXPSnwodCFLvisK by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T15:41:52Z
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@amerika @book @wjmaggos bingo! technocracy. otherwise the aristocracy become more and more incompetent over time. now i see technocracy failing terribly like everyone else but maybe its a platform that marries the best of both?no the ppl becoming complacent is basically the ppl "voting" to be raped and pillaged. maybe that progression is just natural? again, Mother Nature finding perfect balance?
(DIR) Post #AWDbdOsr14uUBZyGUC by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T15:42:57Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos @book lets say everyone has >120 IQ, wouldn't that make ppl with less than average (lets say in that society is 150) a moron? wouldn't it be relative and not absolute?
(DIR) Post #AWDc9WSUOBQqwexKwy by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-31T15:48:44Z
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@greyknight33 @amerika @bookdoesn't that also mean people might be getting smarter, that what counts as 100 today was 110 years ago? that society has an influence.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
(DIR) Post #AWDcCRdklAzOs0cO8W by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T15:49:16Z
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@wjmaggos @book @amerika so if a lion pride is dumb and a bad batch of hunters, they deserve to reproduce and get handouts? if yes, should your lion pride hunt twice as many zebras and give half to them cuz they suck at their job?
(DIR) Post #AWDcNt2lDPGh2sls36 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T15:51:20Z
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@amerika @book @wjmaggos i can't refute if bad leadership leads to lower IQ but then it depends on the definition of "bad" leadership. imo, being exposed to complex situations that require advanced thinking to solve result in higher average IQs. when provided handouts, there's no incentive to struggle for finding answers and that drops avg IQ. maybe the latter is your definition of "bad leadership"?
(DIR) Post #AWDcgA06uJMCqlFFia by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T15:54:39Z
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@amerika @book @wjmaggos love this! so... what system can man implement to ensure good behavior is rewarded and the bad punished? we've already defined that a good monarch is the answer until the good monarchy becomes bad. its almost like society needs a monarch that has a humanity focused goal and lives forever. sounds like this "good king" is a computer.
(DIR) Post #AWDcqlSWUdSjv8aiie by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T15:56:34Z
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@amerika @book @wjmaggos 💯
(DIR) Post #AWDd1HdjhTq4ciqsiW by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-31T15:58:27Z
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@greyknight33 @book @amerikalions are not people. again, if we want to live as nature intended, we'd be anarchists. no large groups that make possible all the modern shit we love. people have to compromise for that. so you're being selective.
(DIR) Post #AWDdAdpUZLru38oSZ6 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T16:00:09Z
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@amerika @book @wjmaggos poverty is relative so its yes and no. you could have improved living standards without taxing everyone to death. imo, its productivity. once a group is completely unproductive, it has become "useless" in the system. it can fend for itself however if demanding hand outs can get what it puts in.crusading against a problem like socialists is more a fight for the means and not the end. the end becomes the reason for the crusade so solving the problem ends the crusade
(DIR) Post #AWDdQLgdn7WQPkA8zg by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T16:02:59Z
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@amerika @book @wjmaggos nah, my point is corruption is the issue. there are good ppl and thus your idea of a good king... which i believe is 100% possible. once the position becomes corrupted, its now posioned. how can one prevent, or at least treat, the poison (corruption) that seeps into that class? find that answer and i think you solved gov't.
(DIR) Post #AWDgoz13W8HVCj9LMG by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-31T16:40:59Z
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@amerika @D00B @greyknight33 @book https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos/110464277181382772
(DIR) Post #AWDiIlk9WrFkgK0hcW by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T16:57:37Z
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@amerika @book @wjmaggos yes and no. i imagine Trump was such a threat to the control mechanism because he couldn't be bribed however china has figured a way around that. "G" is only one part of BGY.
(DIR) Post #AWDiPGDp7hqewkz4gC by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T16:58:50Z
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@amerika @wjmaggos well maybe the humans that get left behind from progress. if Mother Nature will absorb humanity, then there's a fight against Mother Nature's goal of destroying you and your kind.
(DIR) Post #AWDkoJTcMKK4BmRflo by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T17:25:46Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika @book really depends. i can imagine a piss poor society causing a degredation. in the link you sent, i dug into some references and Flynn states that mental degradation is predominant when not exercising your brain (only makes logical sense). i can see "hand out" cultures expediting that degradation.with the mass migration occuring on Earth, lets repeat his IQ tests and see what happens. his samples are biased so maybe post-mass migration the next samples wont' be
(DIR) Post #AWDl9ufHI2GBbhCOLQ by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T17:29:41Z
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@wjmaggos @book @amerika hopefully i'm not misinterpreting but aren't you the one being selective: "lions are not people"our society functions much different than a nature based one due to the additional layers of complexity but in its most raw form, the more productive beget the resources. that's true in the wild and s/b for humanity.its kinda like giving your car gas but it doesn't run the motor. so add more gas? its consuming it but won't actually travel.
(DIR) Post #AWDlagnUxNB8PtoOci by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T17:34:31Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika @D00B @book sorry bud, you completely misunderstand gov't. what you described is the judicial system. gov't governs, not solves disputes.
(DIR) Post #AWDmhhjXyRWbIlsA2S by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-31T17:46:58Z
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@greyknight33 @book @amerikaanimals are generally not "productive". different animals have found very different ways to thrive. some animals work together, some go solo. but yes, if you don't try in nature, you probably die. is that a disposition passed on by nature or nurture? I'm glad we now have some autistic people building technology instead of dead because they were antisocial and couldn't hunt etc.but again, this is a silly conversation based on the naturalistic fallacy.
(DIR) Post #AWDnHjbeUMc5XDMOtE by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-05-31T17:53:29Z
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@greyknight33 @amerika @D00B @bookwho writes the laws? who manages shared resources? who polices? the judicial system is only part of the govt that we collectively allow to manage much of society when we'd rather no person or smaller group have control over.
(DIR) Post #AWDpUQxJLIdRMbfrm4 by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T18:18:12Z
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@wjmaggos @book @amerika you conclude WAY too quickly. what you brought up is exactly the point. animals in nature have found ways of being productive to either themselves or their "tribe". if they are not, they die.in the case of autistics developing incredible advancements, they are being productive. we humans just found a way to putting value injected into society into something we can trade. this allows one to build technology and still eat.now how about the junky who doesn't produce?
(DIR) Post #AWDpx2R3aSuliIE9nE by greyknight33@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T18:23:22Z
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@wjmaggos @amerika @D00B @book >> who writes the laws?if politicians on their own, we'd both be in jail today.>> who manages shared resources?nothing to do with disputes. give it time and it will be corporations.>> who polices?polices as solving disputes? the courts. polices as policing society? that's not solving disputes, that's behavior enforcement.big gov't is a problem. if you can't see that, i will pray for you.
(DIR) Post #AWE3MKt7PtWlaRkK4u by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T20:53:36Z
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@wjmaggos Understanding conservatismhttps://noagendasocial.com/@amerika/110449516493696466Roughly:* Right = order (beyond individual, ends-over-means)* Left = individualism (fairness and envy, means-over-ends)The right has two parts:* Realism (effects, not opinions)* Transcendent (aim for the cool, good, beautiful, and eternally true)
(DIR) Post #AWEGYxQfFLV1zzmlmq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-31T23:21:33Z
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@book @wjmaggos @greyknight33 @D00B The voters created this mess.Now they are looking for a scapegoat.