Post AVz2O2FFA3yy8J1ynA by emc2@indieweb.social
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 (DIR) Post #AVz2O0iapyGrOkkOGG by emc2@indieweb.social
       2023-05-24T13:42:51Z
       
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       I am increasingly worried about the current AI hype cycle taking down all of computer science with it.  The more I think about it, the field is on the verge of a legitimacy crisis from several root-causes.I've seen some AI/ML people (Timnit, etc) talk about the need for an anti-AGI movement. I think that applies to #CS generally. If the public at large comes to equate CS with AGI, it will kill the whole field for a decade when AGI implodes.#CompSci
       
 (DIR) Post #AVz2O1WDrRyBsfy1cO by emc2@indieweb.social
       2023-05-24T13:53:08Z
       
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       How I see this happening:* AGI gets falsely presented as a real thing.  The singularitists amplify this.* Snake-oil vendors pop up, offering supposedly AGI-based solutions for replacing whole swaths of jobs. Mid-2000s style outsourcing comes back in vogue.* These fail utterly or get revealed as theranos-type scams backed by offshore labor.* Public opinion turns sharply against CS generally, resulting in deep funding cuts, bad legislation, etc.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVz2O2FFA3yy8J1ynA by emc2@indieweb.social
       2023-05-24T14:10:31Z
       
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       To be clear, I'm not advocating any kind of ludditism.  Ludditism and primitivism need to die of fucking Ebola.CS and particularly the industry needs to get back to basics: solving problems and enabling people.We need to get *a lot* better at calling out kooks, crackpots, and snake-oil.  We absolutely have our own analogues of anti-vaxxers, homeopathy, and flat-earthers.  We've done a shit job of policing that, and we've allowed it to grow unchecked.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVz2O2qSvfkxzkRhoG by troglodyt@mastodon.nu
       2023-05-24T14:48:22Z
       
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       @emc2 luddites advocate for worker control over means of production and the produce, and direct action against the forced substitution of workers with machineswhat's your problem with this position? will it rob you of your current income because you're middle class and administrate workers rather than work?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVz2O3e5x9SITffLAO by thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io
       2023-05-24T14:59:42Z
       
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       @troglodyt @emc2 Luddites did that 200 years ago, in the modern usage of the term it just means "opposed to technology" or "technophobic".
       
 (DIR) Post #AWjYZnE5eUT6aRDAbQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-06-16T01:39:26.490806Z
       
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       The answer to this is http://elevenfreedoms.org/ - bringing science back into the picture
       
 (DIR) Post #AWjYbqIPD6NigbCuSe by rysiek@mstdn.social
       2023-05-24T14:46:35Z
       
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       @emc2 agreed, but will add a small comment that Luddites were not anti-technology, they were anti exploitation that some employers engaged in by using technology in a particular way.It wasn't about not using technology at all, it was about not using it to exploit people.We *need* a modern-day Luddite movement — one that interrogates the hype around new technologies through the lens of how they affect labor and society in general.