Post AVti7JAG22ROoNe5pY by amuse@infosec.exchange
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 (DIR) Post #AVtSSsJ6y6LQcU35rE by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-05-21T22:25:30Z
       
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       Yet another question on Google Accounts. If you were ever locked out of a Google Account that you considered to be your own, and were *unable* to regain access:
       
 (DIR) Post #AVtSviBTgWdXcaEFCC by otheorange_tag@mstdn.social
       2023-05-21T22:30:50Z
       
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       @lauren I keep NOTHING of value on any 1 machine. I crushed my github when they went all 2FA on me, I log in as root, since 1980 and my security is to beat the st out of the cpu and piss on the motherboard if someone does manage to get through. btw you cant hack state machine servers so 0 worry on my part.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVtTBqZUGk1aGd9XSC by az@betagravity.com
       2023-05-21T22:33:42Z
       
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       @lauren I've read too many horror stories of people locked out of their Google account with no recourse to trust them with anything important
       
 (DIR) Post #AVtXVTaxnrTYcGSVwO by amuse@infosec.exchange
       2023-05-21T23:22:03Z
       
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       @lauren There's a third missing option: "Regularly back up my data using takeout; highly annoyed but not actually damaged"
       
 (DIR) Post #AVtY7zcdAziWwxbZ4q by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-05-21T23:29:07Z
       
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       @amuse Of course. But the percentage of consumers who back up any data in any kind of reliable way (if at all) is painfully small, whether in the "cloud" or just on their own hardware locally. And the time required to do so (especially on slower Internet connections) is even more discouraging. Even more to the point, most people's hardware now is not designed to make backup straightforward. Uploading to multiple clouds can be impractical given typical much slower upload that download Internet speeds, most phones now don't even support sdcards, external usb drives are typically a pain -- the whole model has been "trust the cloud." And in fact, the cloud is much more reliable and secure for most people's data given these facts -- *until* they lose access to their accounts and are locked out of their data.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVtYKHd03YmOGldcRc by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-05-21T23:31:20Z
       
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       @amuse I'll add I'm a big fan of Takeout (and the team who originally deployed it, in their white lab coats -- I still remember!) But even I find it impractical to use it frequently, for a bunch of reasons that aren't exactly rocket science.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVtZlGp9FnbNY4kipc by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-05-21T23:47:24Z
       
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       @amuse One continuing limitation in Takeout (AFAIK - has this changed?) is that there is no way to do anything other than a *full* pull of data. No way to do any sort of incrementals. This is a significant limitation if more than a trivial amount of data is present.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVtdgPDT1XlHwg3zX6 by amuse@infosec.exchange
       2023-05-22T00:31:17Z
       
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       @lauren yeah I filed the internal ticket to ask for incremental exports (likely a very hard problem).In the meantime I backup 1.3TB every 3 months!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AVthLdVf5N9u0kvRnU by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-05-22T01:12:13Z
       
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       @amuse Thanks! Though, uh, I won't hold my breath ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AVti7JAG22ROoNe5pY by amuse@infosec.exchange
       2023-05-22T01:20:59Z
       
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       @lauren i filled it well before today :DBut yeah I think it's probably a very complicated thing to build so it's not like, a quick patch