Post AVqwINHnrbd8fFSyhs by DamoreW@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AVqZC3RYQZeCRL2pou by stux@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T12:57:00Z
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In the US, hospitals are confident enough to print ‘39.95’ on the bill for holding your newbornThey are so sure about their system they don't mind explicitly spelling out that they charge $40 for literally handing over the baby and waiting for a few minutesBecause they don't even consider that absurd anymoreI got news for you.. it’s ABSURD!
(DIR) Post #AVqZW3jr2X4X9B8xV2 by drtifftaft@nerdculture.de
2023-05-20T13:00:43Z
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@stux and then insurance companies, who I have no love for, push back and are like we’re not paying for all of this and the hospitals say “see how evil they are?!” It’s fun.
(DIR) Post #AVqZWOJgX1cIy63r7o by DemocracySpot@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T13:00:47Z
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@stux Nurse asking"Does baby have a name" fee: $74.39.
(DIR) Post #AVqZcF181FSfrfAf68 by trebach@masto.ai
2023-05-20T13:01:39Z
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@stux Hospitals: The fuck you gonna do about it? Pay it or die!
(DIR) Post #AVqZgVi9tQkInZKkoy by stux@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T13:02:34Z
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@trebach Yeah...Also burning 'em down doesn't help much either.. 🤨
(DIR) Post #AVqZo6miS9Fdo65Xoe by photovotary@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T13:04:02Z
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@stux 😬
(DIR) Post #AVqZzlIEBVSQcuNuAi by tomasveneny@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T13:06:06Z
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@stux They're milking (health insurance) pretty hard because of profit ... that's why bills mostly go to absurdity https://www.today.com/tmrw/why-healthcare-so-expensive-united-states-t192119
(DIR) Post #AVqalokwbzUvGdjP1M by BintyMcFrazzles@ohai.social
2023-05-20T13:14:49Z
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@stux As a nurse, I find the US healthcare system morally repugnant. I could never work in a hospital in a country where this shit happens. Where people go bankrupt or are literally not treated if they don't have the money or correct insurance. Where machines are turned off because of money. Where they take your insurance details before treating you.I think it's against the Hippocratic Oath.
(DIR) Post #AVqbr9EhzjQMBfl6uW by condalmo@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T13:26:55Z
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@stux
(DIR) Post #AVqc8zVctm7fEQBEpc by jlapoutre@mastodon.online
2023-05-20T13:30:09Z
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@stux are you sure this isn’t photshopped? I mean, this is too…. Absurd?
(DIR) Post #AVqcXsQKNZhwUoZIIK by JohnLoader6@masto.ai
2023-05-20T13:34:00Z
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@stux coming to the UK soon
(DIR) Post #AVqcvK9FSxzH8tlBXU by jebba@jebba.moe
2023-05-20T13:38:52Z
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@stux I'm surprised they didn't give the baby an opium addiction to get them started in the USA healthcare system.
(DIR) Post #AVqczGd8UIsJOFcV04 by clouddweller@raccoon.place
2023-05-20T13:39:40Z
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@stux I decided after a surprise medical bill, sent after Congress signed a law forbidding such bills, that I will never go to the hospital for anything ever again. I will choose death over giving them another cent.
(DIR) Post #AVqdWLNRrLzjfX3QnY by pairko@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-20T13:45:38Z
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@stux This is a 'service' that hospitals put up on billboard advertising, for competitive advantage, therefore perceived to have value, to which a dollar amount will be assigned, which is then quadrupled to create the list prices. The system is Kafkaesque, but it's the system we have.
(DIR) Post #AVqe7DTWCb9RsLTYdU by nickistre@fosstodon.org
2023-05-20T13:51:58Z
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@stux At least illness isn't the #1 killer of children in the US!(It's firearms...)
(DIR) Post #AVqgjyarfHvIvJWPZI by IAmDannyBoling@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T14:21:43Z
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PREACH, @stux!!! 🤬
(DIR) Post #AVqivuxdCHu92Wzb9c by Caledonia@mastodon.scot
2023-05-20T14:46:15Z
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@stux Bloody hell. Do they charge to hand the baby to the mother to be breast fed? Whatever next. Thank gawd I don’t live in the US. I’d be locked up for protesting about the insanity.
(DIR) Post #AVqjCM14ND7vaHREUC by jackyan@mastodon.social
2023-05-20T14:49:15Z
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@stux Whomever conceives of these charges are a bizarre and inhuman lot.
(DIR) Post #AVqjzv2kvpOmPOrTFo by LevelUp@corteximplant.com
2023-05-20T14:57:59Z
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@stux Damn, if they're going to charge like as if those things are optional add ons then they better warn the parent beforehand and let them keep a menu of sorts.Terrible. As if it doesn't already cost a lot to have a growing child.I don't agree with this at all, it should cost nothing to hold your baby but there should be a cost breakdown that they should be made aware of ahead of time, then they can make informed decisions.Smh. The US healthcare system is mad.
(DIR) Post #AVqk1kX8yhqgOMwpo8 by rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T14:58:33Z
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@stux There must be more to it.
(DIR) Post #AVqkBdxEIJwssmrp4a by Jyoti@mas.to
2023-05-20T15:00:16Z
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@stux This is the horrendous system #Starmer and every other Tory wants for Britain. They are deliberately hobbling the #NHS so they can usher in their friends' companies and grow rich on the profits from a worse healthcare system that charges for things like HOLDING YOUR OWN NEWBORN CHILD. fuck me#ToriesOut #ProtectOurNHS
(DIR) Post #AVqlgUrGGQspbPLqXg by icg937@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T15:17:04Z
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@stux The whole Statesian health system is rotten from bottom to top.
(DIR) Post #AVqlnCKhXS1CAtJiXw by thinking_images@masto.ai
2023-05-20T15:17:52Z
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@stux It's near impossible to go to a US #hospital with as lawyer and an accountant by your side 24/7. I was charged 400.00 a day, for 4 days, for "hospitality". Ridiculous.
(DIR) Post #AVqn08AORKLQyKE5VQ by Paulos_the_fog@qoto.org
2023-05-20T15:31:52Z
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@stux and the tory scum in the UK want to move Britain from its current free hospital service to something resembling the utterly appalling system that is current in the USA!
(DIR) Post #AVqqIg85Cnv3NegJbk by ncw413@mastodon.social
2023-05-20T16:08:50Z
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@stux Brings back horrible memories,asked for itemized bill,took several pages of the bill, and sat in billing department going line by line for over an hour (with crying baby). I didn't have any medication, the kid didn't have any oxygen. I didn't ask for any tissues, I'm not paying for that either.
(DIR) Post #AVqrbkWfBRwUTKpuhk by maddad@mastodon.world
2023-05-20T16:23:03Z
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@stux That whole bill is absurd....
(DIR) Post #AVqrp0dUb7p6CYLyTI by real_jamescain@techhub.social
2023-05-20T16:25:50Z
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@stux I’d be pissed at being charged for a “Lactation consultant”; also, and I can’t emphasize this enough, this is a rhetorical question, why is there a quantity of 2?
(DIR) Post #AVqsmorBWO0L2nHGc4 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-20T16:36:38Z
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@stux In Finland that whole thing would be 38.10 € in total (about 41 dollars).
(DIR) Post #AVqsy9oJxKQLDULPFY by dalfen@universeodon.com
2023-05-20T16:38:43Z
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@stux For the low, low price of only $39.95, you too can hold the newborn that doctors have just surgically removed from you 🙄Our for-profit medical system is out of control.
(DIR) Post #AVqtCDQNJhOeTjqazQ by gavinisdie@masto.ai
2023-05-20T16:40:43Z
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@stux we have a medical system where "guess I'll die" is normal
(DIR) Post #AVqtfv9Np8HyUS42Eq by paul@notnull.click
2023-05-20T16:46:42.989045Z
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@stux That's bad, very bad.my brain though is stuck on a loop truing to work out "Delivery C section, quantity 79"That person had 79 C sections? 🫤
(DIR) Post #AVqu1mLdEQChYpDRx2 by MaryAustinBooks@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T16:50:14Z
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@stux The system is so screwed up there is an entire cottage industry in the US for "medical billing advocates." Not only do they take on the complexities of dealing with hospitals and insurance companies, they often find errors (like duplicate charges) and also negotiate so the final bill is thousands of dollars lower. I don't just recommend these people to those who are struggling financially. Even the well off can benefit from them.US healthcare. 🤦♀️ https://www.verywellhealth.com/when-you-should-use-a-medical-billing-advocate-1738475
(DIR) Post #AVqu4PnFXs9CTgOJ84 by EricLawton@spore.social
2023-05-20T16:51:01Z
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@stuxIf anybody is wondering why right-wing governments in jurisdictions like Ontario, Alberta and the UK are trying so hard to privatise public healthcare, it's right here. ⬆️A goldmine for their funders.
(DIR) Post #AVquToz51WRpqT2UjY by zachvat@newsie.social
2023-05-20T16:55:32Z
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@stux Greatest country on earth. 😏
(DIR) Post #AVquhpOyGeuPC7pQbA by rodhilton@mastodon.social
2023-05-20T16:58:10Z
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@stux alright I hate to be a reply guy but as the father of two c-section babies I feel like I can explain this a bit.People who have c-sections are heavily medicated through the procedure. My wife could barely stay awake through all of it, both times.Skin-to-skin after a c-section means that the nurses have to stay with mama to basically ensure the baby isn't dropped by a mother that passes out. It also means staff has to stay in the OR longer. So it actually costs quite a lot.
(DIR) Post #AVqwINHnrbd8fFSyhs by DamoreW@mastodon.social
2023-05-20T17:15:58Z
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@stux . . well sadly if you are not able to deliver you baby yourself. . then you will be at the mercy of those who can. . like with all of capitalism. . your gonna pay whatever price is charged. . especially if you don't have a choice. . one reason the education system has been gutted so the population doesn't have actual life skills and must therefore pay whatever price is asked. . if they want to survive.
(DIR) Post #AVqxt9OGafZeEhac0O by arem@mstdn.ca
2023-05-20T17:33:38Z
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@stux Apparently they need an extra nurse for safety reasons. Because they think the woman is going to be standing up after the C-section, and the anaesthetics give a good chance of dropping the baby.At least they're transparent about that line. The bill still has a large quantity of generic levels 1 and 3.
(DIR) Post #AVqyMH84tdiadTuBVY by mcnulla@techhub.social
2023-05-20T17:39:07Z
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@stux $40 bucks? Naw, we good. You can hold it.
(DIR) Post #AVqykDnsuevVGssWhc by chicating@mastodon.world
2023-05-20T17:43:26Z
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@stux "It's...some *bullshit*" as they might have said on The Wire.
(DIR) Post #AVr00N7E9uDGjuBt0S by JoeQuinlan@mastodon.social
2023-05-20T17:57:33Z
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@stux Capitalist Healthcare for Profit is a national disgrace.
(DIR) Post #AVr1mp4Vcb05IXaPVg by jimmyhoke@fosstodon.org
2023-05-20T18:17:23Z
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@stux Doctor: *shakes patients hand*Doctor: that'll be $100.
(DIR) Post #AVr43SmFxrfgz66xhQ by patriksvensson@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T18:42:58Z
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@stux US health care is crazy.
(DIR) Post #AVr57UPnuuILB15q5o by jazzdetective@mastodon.social
2023-05-20T18:54:31Z
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@stux I sympathise, I really do. The US is a great country, which I lived in for years, but putting a price on holding your baby is what’s wrong with the healthcare model. Meanwhile, in the UK, the bill for the entire process from the hospital, is £0 (that’s $0 at today’s exchange rate).It’s also the reason why there’ll never be a British re-make of Breaking Bad!
(DIR) Post #AVr5mRXjV4Ga8rKWS8 by vecrumba@historians.social
2023-05-20T19:02:17Z
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@stux There is actually an explanation. That care isn't universal is a separate problem.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doula-explains-why-hospital-charged-parents-39-to-hold-newborn-baby-in-viral-post/
(DIR) Post #AVr6dXdvYFGoPNXx9U by Leroy@defcon.social
2023-05-20T19:11:52Z
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@stux I'm more willing to die than to live a life where they might charge me for breathing if I go to the hospital. I don't care if it's an easily fixable issue, I would rather die than feed another cent into the US healthcare system
(DIR) Post #AVr7IvLCLcxdmMWED2 by Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net
2023-05-20T19:19:20Z
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@stux, there is a big difference who has in his political program to end poverty, depending on whether it is put by a leftist party or a capitalist party. First refer to the cause and others to the subjects.
(DIR) Post #AVr7uAJxcCwExAhLLk by mike@thecanadian.social
2023-05-20T19:26:06Z
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@stux It's not a microcosm of capitalism it's an example of insurance milking, which in turn is an example of how insurance companies shouldn't be your funding model for health care.
(DIR) Post #AVr8NFWjL3SpUtXV4a by hey@social.nowicki.io
2023-05-20T19:31:19Z
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@stux @lori in Germany they go nuts and beyond about holding a newborn. Literally force both mother and father to hold the baby as much as possible. Doesn’t matter she’s drugged and not really there, BRING THE BABY, SHE MUST HOLD HIM! BONDING!And I find it amazing
(DIR) Post #AVr8UQo9nIoaVo7CW8 by nicolaottomano@mastodon.uno
2023-05-20T19:32:35Z
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@stux these are the moments in which I'm proud to live in a country where national health system is nearly free for all.It is funded by taxes and nobody, no matter if rich or poor, have to worry about money while at the hospital.
(DIR) Post #AVrCAFoZMCyMRRwThY by CDeorum@mastodon.world
2023-05-20T20:13:49Z
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@stux that’s not what the cost is for, though? The cost is because immediate contact after an intensive surgery takes money to pull off. You can’t just cut open a mother and then delay the closing without additional work.It’s wrong charging for birth or any healthcare at all.But if you’re spreading misinformation, it leaves the entire argument open to easy dismissal. If part of an argument is false, why would people trust the rest?
(DIR) Post #AVrDWCBtbvl1WmsaYa by Sim0n@mastodon.org.uk
2023-05-20T20:28:57Z
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@stux given how much it costs to have a baby it’s a wonder y’all are having any
(DIR) Post #AVrEzN9Y25nDsWG2EK by lynnwritestuff@mas.to
2023-05-20T20:45:22Z
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@stux You can be certain it’s because there’s a CPT billing code for it.
(DIR) Post #AVrGZ5yjSqIEzYnS4W by nuncio@mstdn.social
2023-05-20T21:03:08Z
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@stux This is why I'll never get pregnant.
(DIR) Post #AVrGaIDrQWMdFuRZvU by Cps10001@mastodonapp.uk
2023-05-20T21:03:21Z
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@stux Unbelievable
(DIR) Post #AVrJl5P3jFwUXqWInw by CrackerBarrelGrandma@mstdn.party
2023-05-20T21:38:54Z
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@stux I’ve sort of come to the conclusion that hospitals are the origin of the problem
(DIR) Post #AVrL5GtinmpTwN3ESe by csdummi@babka.social
2023-05-20T21:53:45Z
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@stux @trebach burn down the wxchange where their shares are traded, seems like the better option.
(DIR) Post #AVrMLUfZSzINExjPkm by CStamp@mastodon.social
2023-05-20T22:07:54Z
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@stux And they want to force girls and women to give birth with no mention of being able to afford the pregnancy and birth.
(DIR) Post #AVrNblSauHTzu3z4nA by adoranten@tldr.nettime.org
2023-05-20T22:22:00Z
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@stux Wow! I think this quite says it all about the deeply tragic side of American capitalism.
(DIR) Post #AVrPpex06cTHg0xZaK by bimshwel@mastodon.art
2023-05-20T22:46:53Z
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@stux do they repossess the baby if you don't pay that?
(DIR) Post #AVrPqPfEQVBUYW0Xui by Resister@radicalsocial.work
2023-05-20T22:47:03Z
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@stux Canadian here. Ummmm...WUT?! Capitalism meets health care =😬😱🤯
(DIR) Post #AVrPrJ3aTeLYLypH0q by WestCoastCliche@creativewriting.social
2023-05-20T22:47:13Z
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@stux $13,280.49 is a lot for a C-section hospitalization too!
(DIR) Post #AVrTHqmY0gqyLGCk1A by dd9000@mastodon.online
2023-05-20T23:25:41Z
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@stux Hospitals have a lot of fixed and other costs. They are not, it appears, allowed to charge a % of your bill for "overhead" so they must spread those costs across services which is how you get these ridiculous charges. That they could come up with less absurd ways to spread the costs is, of course, another matter.
(DIR) Post #AVrfmYunghEFM7TYOW by CapriMoon@cooler.mom
2023-05-21T01:45:31Z
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@stux I want to know why it’s not just included in the delivery as insurance reimbursement is typically based on how complicated labor/delivery/recovery are (rather than on itemization)
(DIR) Post #AVrj8q0H8NHqaULlCa by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-05-21T02:23:16Z
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@stux yeah, fuck that shit
(DIR) Post #AVrklYc5p7c3tw4824 by jordan_kendrick@fosstodon.org
2023-05-21T02:41:28Z
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@stux It’s time for a revolution.
(DIR) Post #AVrndInp1Wt0PWJ6H2 by DFreysinger@mastodon.social
2023-05-21T03:13:40Z
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@stux Everything about our medical system is absurd.
(DIR) Post #AVrumafcf0q66zqdEG by ClinicalNovellas@mastodonbooks.net
2023-05-21T04:33:44Z
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@stux The hospital also charged an extra $61.95 for the mother’s lactation (consultation) 🫤
(DIR) Post #AVrwDNRS3HTirCYXvU by rwba@aus.social
2023-05-21T04:49:27Z
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@stux It's obscene is what it is.
(DIR) Post #AVrxd9fRzEDXcWxZHk by davisn@mastodon.social
2023-05-21T05:05:39Z
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@stux https://yip.su/2wdzH7
(DIR) Post #AVs3bSd96zD5ZvSPhY by svgeesus@mastodon.social
2023-05-21T06:12:35Z
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@stux That isn't a charge (the amount is minimal). It's a threat."We could have stopped you doing this. Payment constitutes acceptance"Few, I suspect, contest that absurd charge. The message is understood.
(DIR) Post #AVs6HsWrPYxPyLs5Oy by thomas_klopf@mastodon.social
2023-05-21T06:42:41Z
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@stux the delivery is covered by insurance, but not the holding part, right ?
(DIR) Post #AVs6Uttnd3oNzBoIhE by GoAskAlice@newsie.social
2023-05-21T06:44:34Z
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@stux I blame the insurance companies who make sure that reasonable reimbursement barely pay for real costs.So when a Doc you’d like to call your own doesn’t accept your insurance a lot of time it’s for good reason.
(DIR) Post #AVs8iJOAMywWiKXLGK by BillKochman@mastodon.social
2023-05-21T07:09:52Z
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@stux Wow! The epitome of corporate greed! 😡😩😲
(DIR) Post #AVsWkTqKrxzscIHP7I by experiencersinternational@mstdn.social
2023-05-21T11:39:11Z
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@stux god am I glad that healthcare is mostly free here, albeit it's in a shit state at this point
(DIR) Post #AVsjdkw6DcJz0T6EYi by D1g1talDrag0n@techhub.social
2023-05-21T14:03:36Z
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@stux that’s effing crazy! I wonder if you could sue the hospital for skin to skin on a newborn? I mean, they should be wearing protective gear like gloves and masks right? If so there was no skin to skin and this charge is a lie. If they are not then they could be transferring in germs/bacteria to a new born. Ugh…
(DIR) Post #AVslAKDWgCx9eLLRD6 by pattonadams@infosec.exchange
2023-05-21T14:20:41Z
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@stux You’re so right and thanks for posting this reminder. Please encourage followers to ask their OB/GYN to describe their and hospitals’ standard delivery services in advance of childbirth (or to ask their doctor in advance of any scheduled procedure, not just childbirth) and use https://www.fairhealthconsumer.org to estimate reasonable costs. Find out what procedure costs can be waived or what procedures can be declined, and whether instructions can be documented on a directive in advance. Caveat: I am not a doctor, insurance professional, or any sort of expert in matters like this, just a fellow consumer.