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(DIR) Post #AVqP20gSpk1TRaafFw by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:00:27Z
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plants don't really offer any instant feedback, do they. they just sit there and if you do something wrong, you won't know for a while.
(DIR) Post #AVqP2ncwrbKFEsK34y by Flick@spinster.xyz
2023-05-20T11:03:31.391214Z
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@thor I’m afraid so.
(DIR) Post #AVqPAurXqWsJzo1JAG by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:04:58.821628Z
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@thor depends on how wrong and how mature the plant is (species also plays a role). Pour boiling water on a seedling the result is pretty quick.Although they also emit sounds when damaged although it's outside of our hearing frequency range.
(DIR) Post #AVqPKV5EY0lkwGzcy8 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:06:25Z
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@thatguyoverthere Kickstarter idea: a little sensor with a speaker that lets you hear the plants speaki know it's been monitored in a lab, but this would be a product.
(DIR) Post #AVqPWLyEFstG9OMuau by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:08:51.903410Z
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@thor that would be pretty cool. I wonder if you could isolate just the sounds from the plants and not pick up other things with overlapping frequency without some kind of sound proofing
(DIR) Post #AVqPWw7hq7rUHD4zMe by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:07:47Z
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@thatguyoverthere they sell those ultrasound devices that listen in on bat signals after all
(DIR) Post #AVqPYGVzVe0hoH4XbM by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:09:12.391075Z
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@thor I've never seen one of those but that sounds awesome
(DIR) Post #AVqPfwx484UxS5Ost6 by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:10:35.784719Z
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@thor I used to love throwing something (baseballs work well) up into the air at dusk and watching the bats check it out. I dont see as many bats around here as I used to. When I was a kid there would always be one or two sleeping in a window or something.
(DIR) Post #AVqSFVZNc0ncrTP9xg by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:26:13Z
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@thatguyoverthere well, if the plant is making sound, something must be vibrating.when you want to amplify an acoustic guitar on a stage, you can't use a microphone. the hollow body of the guitar will create feedback almost immediately.so what you do is stick a piezoelectric sensor to it that picks up the vibrations of the body and turns it into an electrical signal.maybe you could attach such a sensor to a plant.
(DIR) Post #AVqSFWTkERszgHmAoi by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:26:43Z
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@thatguyoverthere the piezoelectric sensor isolates the sound, basically.
(DIR) Post #AVqSFX61w6Vjb1gkUa by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:39:25.324010Z
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@thor but wind and other movement would also be setting off the piezo no?
(DIR) Post #AVqSRsZDvxPdf6EMhk by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:41:14Z
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@thatguyoverthere yes. but less so than wind blowing directly into the diaphragm. it would have to be tested. and there are means of reducing noise. you can talk fairly quietly into a smartphone in loud traffic and still be heard clearly. people shout into phones out of old habit, to be heard over the noise, but it's actually not necessary anymore.
(DIR) Post #AVqSZBBT7CZjQbbI4O by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:42:59.475981Z
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@thor yeah I guess you could target the known range and filter out other effects.I actually have some piezoelectric disks on their way to me for a different project. Now you have me thinking I might need to try and hear my plants
(DIR) Post #AVqT8kIoXNciTuzn9M by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:43:58Z
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@thatguyoverthere you'd have to check the frequency range. but i think it should be fairly high. clock crystals in computers and radios depend on the piezoelectric effect and those operate in the RF range.
(DIR) Post #AVqT8l7rTaSN2EsYiW by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:49:24.061213Z
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@thor yeah I am not sure about the specifications of the discs I'm getting, but I am planning to fiddle with vibration energy harvesting so we'll see how it goes.I also have a friend bringing me some old microwaves so I can scavenge some parts for other kinds of vibration harvester that aren't piezo based.
(DIR) Post #AVqT8m8xgyvmBwOx4S by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:45:13Z
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this is a bit of a far fetched idea but who the hell knows - it might just work @thatguyoverthere
(DIR) Post #AVqTcGJoa5mIAxXQmG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T11:54:44Z
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@thor Yes and no. You get some fairly quick feedback but it is subtle.
(DIR) Post #AVqTk6IthRohQqqYoy by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:56:07Z
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@amerika hm, so you have to be a bit obsessed with them to spot it, huh
(DIR) Post #AVqTrl8iGuuI6ojdOS by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:50:28Z
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@thatguyoverthere are you gonna step up the voltage with the magnetrons?
(DIR) Post #AVqTrloXlOMqCYJ2au by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T11:57:32.178941Z
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@thor using the transformer to convert wind movement into electricity. Essentially a bladeless wind generator from scrap.I can't find the videos atm but Robert Murray smith on YouTube does some pretty cool stuff I want to try out.
(DIR) Post #AVqU1YR8M7JJbj1PsW by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T11:58:45Z
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@thatguyoverthere now i wonder what would happen if you stuck a magnetron on the end of a dynamic microphone (essentially a diaphragm that takes air movement and turns it into a small electrical signal)
(DIR) Post #AVqUI0iQyzDPwkxdSK by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T12:02:17.808461Z
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@thor I am very interested in this idea. As the world moves toward trying to track every bit of energy spent I think learning how to generate your own where it's needed could help keep the lights on so to speak.
(DIR) Post #AVqXFfcoj3g7oouR72 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:35:29Z
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@thor Not really, but you must be familiar with them. The way a leaf droops, the shade of green, sometimes the smells they give off... it is a science, and people who are good at it become wizards.
(DIR) Post #AVqXT3OJfvFbICVZk8 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:37:53Z
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@amerika that's what i meant by "obsessed"i realise we're geeks, so we assume it's normal to pay such close attention to things, but...
(DIR) Post #AVqY0WehtMI3bv8SsC by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:38:31Z
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@amerika let's just say i'm very far from being a plant geek, so i'm a bit of a plant normie.
(DIR) Post #AVqY0XErivDJQ43LEW by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:39:08Z
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@amerika what i know about how to take care of plants is from observing my mother. dad had zero interest in it.
(DIR) Post #AVqY0XrrNwPDN0IU0u by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:40:37Z
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@amerika i think the traditional attitude is that plants are a lady thing.
(DIR) Post #AVqY0YUV4HJXIqNLF2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:43:55Z
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@thor In the culture I am from, no.Fussy plants like growing African violets? Yes, you are a woman or homosexual. For sure.But plants generally? Anyone can do it, and men are often avid gardeners, even for non-cannabis plants.Is this one of those "real men don't kiss kitties" things?
(DIR) Post #AVqY0ZYR783abLE012 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:42:35Z
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@amerika growing up, there wasn't really an awareness in my environment that there are people who have a degree in plants.
(DIR) Post #AVqY6peu9Rm2HlEdxw by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:45:03Z
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@amerika well, clearly, i bought some pretty flowers that i am currently growing, so i'm not saying i *agree* with the viewpoint, but i'm most definitely shaped by it, through culture.
(DIR) Post #AVqY7phBV4R8gmmL7w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:45:15Z
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@thor I was fascinated by plants from a young age, so a bit of a different experience here.Most men are hopeless with plants because of the linear logic. "Plant looks weird, it needs water" = kills it by overwatering.
(DIR) Post #AVqYDfCtPRIftfOGAa by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:46:19Z
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@thor Interesting parallel. It must be sort of like how a normal person views operating systems and other fascinating stuff.Then again, if one grows up a literature geek... such fascinations are entirely normal.There might be a middle ground, which is learning the basics, and seeing that plants have a lot to tell us.They are after all more complex than operating systems.
(DIR) Post #AVqYIW1cyS8crtR0ts by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:47:11Z
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@amerika some bits of it them looked wilted so the temptation is to help by providing water.
(DIR) Post #AVqYNXKrWvJaNbpGYi by Coyote@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T12:48:07.014553Z
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@thor @amerika It's weird, things that matter (farming, say) are discouraged in younger generations. I don't remember flowers being anything more than things guys give girls, not something that had to be sourced from women... ? When did that happen?\\Other than farming, have you checked the salary of the head landscaper at any decent golf course in any decent sized town? Growing shit, isn't not something to be ashamed of.. But this thread is funny..
(DIR) Post #AVqYPMkHsFnM7BafNQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:48:26Z
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@thor Exactly. Or the leaves are yellow, so we hit them with more fertilizer. "They looked weak."I guess here, when I grew up, there was still a lot of agriculture. Knowing how to fix a plant (heh) was like knowing how to make an engine work.And the crazy kids all grew dope in the wastelands.
(DIR) Post #AVqYZCFtjNwCTa40hM by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:48:09Z
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@amerika i have the pots sitting on some small plates now. i put some water in those this morning. it got soaked up. but i don't have an intuition for this so i'm flying blind.
(DIR) Post #AVqYZCw5CXgKaPnhS4 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:50:12Z
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@thor Observations on commercial plants -- keeping in mind that I have no idea where you got yours, or much about Norwegian shops other than Helvete -- generally:1. They use water-retention agents added to the soil; in wet climates, this leads to root rot.2. They are usually overgrown for the pot they are sold in by the time you can buy them.3. They have been grown quickly under controlled conditions and so are prone to shock.
(DIR) Post #AVqYZTNc3xD5aQnuaG by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:50:14Z
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@amerika living organisms.the reason i bought the plants is because bees sometimes fly in here looking for food. i figured maybe if the food is out on the balcony, that would help.the bee will find its food without either of us getting into the unfortunate situation of the bee being trapped and me being unable to relax.
(DIR) Post #AVqYdQPt1RbTYQkgds by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:50:58Z
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@thor Genius level is learning about soil pH.What I might do is look up the plant itself and how it likes to be watered, how much sun it likes, and the soil type it needs.If it likes sandy soils, that means you want to water it once a day and let it drain thoroughly.
(DIR) Post #AVqYpUCGnD9yko8NGa by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:43:49Z
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@amerika if i think back to my childhood, if i was 9 years old and i decided i was going to get flowers, the other boys would have made fun of me, because it's a girly thing
(DIR) Post #AVqYpUqKOHCcl2sMhk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:53:09Z
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@thor This is very true. Then again, the other kids usually made fun of me anyway because I was a total flaming nerd.Eventually I had to damage a few and they left me alone.
(DIR) Post #AVqYqeu2TQx6FPALU8 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:53:20Z
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@amerika without being any kind of expert, they didn't look super happy upon examining them. i don't know how to put it. i reckon i'd find happier plants from a dedicated store, but buying a plant at all is a first for me.
(DIR) Post #AVqYuLf3xI2ZjGv7R2 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:54:00Z
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@amerika i used to have this idea that people might like me if i try hard enough
(DIR) Post #AVqYw17fHx7Wbo5uoi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:54:20Z
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@thor That is honest: we are all shaped by our culture.Family also has an influence. A friend of mine had a mother who killed plants and a father who literally hated them.I always wondered how people decorate without plants. Lush green is very pleasant to my eyes.Then again (looks around domicile) clearly I am NOT the go-to person for decorating questions.
(DIR) Post #AVqZ46gOV3aOAbCE0O by errante@rot.gives
2023-05-20T12:53:58.174304Z
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@amerika @thor its a pretty quick solution, isnt it? when i was a kid i hit another over the head and suddenly they stopped bothering me :)
(DIR) Post #AVqZ5yhT9NN3zWaimm by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:56:06Z
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@amerika if you ever find decor in my apartment, something's gotten into me and maybe i need help 😆 i don't even have curtains.
(DIR) Post #AVqZJdvx9jEHdiskSG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T12:58:36Z
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@thor That's really pretty awesome. A food supply for bees. You will have some new buzzy friends.I remember stinging insects being a bit scary as a kid, but now bees are just cute little fuzzy helpers to me.Plants sometimes like a jolt of fertilizer before their flowering season. I tend to use gentle ones in multiple applications over MiracleGro type blitz infusions. The type of fertilizer varies somewhat with plant.
(DIR) Post #AVqZT982Xjs4zm4DZI by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:57:18Z
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@errante @amerika violence is never the answer except when it isi would have done better if i had a shred of violence in me.my problem is that i think before i punch. when faced with idiots who think with their fists, there's no time for that.
(DIR) Post #AVqZT9pHwwSx9uIkym by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:58:13Z
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@errante @amerika my bullies had fists for brains and poison for tongues. they didn't need to think.
(DIR) Post #AVqZTAONqSXSukimgK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:00:19Z
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@thor @errante Some of them were the same way here. Others were subverters, clever people who enjoyed hurting others with words.Those are the ones I suspect ended up in a ditch. The problem with being a bully is at some point you meet a bigger jerk.I think it is why everyone likes it when the Marines or SEALs or whatever are out drinking in the familiar bars. The local loudmouths get stomped.
(DIR) Post #AVqZUqW6iEVnqp8Q9w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:00:38Z
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@thor @errante This was wonderfully poetic so I retooted it or whatever the term is.
(DIR) Post #AVqZb75zz9lT0UuYyG by errante@rot.gives
2023-05-20T12:59:58.028849Z
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@amerika @thor over in pleromaland, we call em boosts. on mastodon, its a retoot. misskey and tumblr call them renoting
(DIR) Post #AVqZc9kdb8IdX4PvCS by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:01:57Z
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@thor @errante We had a wide range of bullies.I grew up where the oil patch, farm fields, and city joined.Kids who were prone to sudden attacks like that you just avoided, then lay in wait for them with a bat.The oilfield kids were fun because they knew the drill from watching their parents.If a bully attacked, they gang rushed him and put him into the hospital.
(DIR) Post #AVqZeTJJqc0em2k8bw by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-05-20T13:02:22.208973Z
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@errante @thor @amerika didn't they stop calling things toots because mastodon hates fun being had anywhere in the world
(DIR) Post #AVqZgjInMWmAwxZhEO by errante@rot.gives
2023-05-20T13:00:58.836811Z
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@icedquinn @thor @amerika :akarietto:
(DIR) Post #AVqZgjMh81tZ93OoJE by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:02:45Z
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@amerika i used to have a paralysing fear of black-and-yellow flying buzzing things. bees, wasps, etc.i'm no longer paralysed, but i'm not going to have an enjoyable evening if one of them is buzzing around in the ceiling of my apartment. it will have to be dealt with.my former roommate was a bit better at that than i am. he'd trap bothersome bugs in a glass with a sheet of paper and let them out.i don't have the nerves for that, so i'm forced to kill them.i don't like it very much though. first time i killed a wasp, i almost threw up.i think maybe the plants are better. and also ecosystem reasons.
(DIR) Post #AVqZhYnNuYY2ebHLUW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:02:56Z
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@thor @errante Farm kids were restrained because when you are fifty miles from anywhere, you must be very polite to people who carry shotguns and handle rattlesnakes daily.They'll kill you by leaving a snake in your bedroll. Not that a rattlesnake bite will usually kill you, but a rattlesnake bite plus no one answering your cries for help might.
(DIR) Post #AVqZoRA8gls50XCX6O by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:04:10Z
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@errante @thor "Might is Right," or at least, might is decisive.It is sort of the only way to deal with bullies. Raise the pain level and they no longer see you as an easy target.One of the reasons that this town is so gentle is that people tend to be armed.You want to go pick on some guy? Well, he might blow your head off, and the cops will come out and report it as "vandalism."
(DIR) Post #AVqZqOEwWebsWTNZtA by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:54:41Z
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@amerika although i am a massive geek, i also want to be liked. that part of me never went away.
(DIR) Post #AVqZqP3zSrRX4nGLSK by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T12:55:06Z
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@amerika if i was happy being cut off from other people, i would not be on fedi, would i
(DIR) Post #AVqZqPgHAW4GzXAv8C by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:04:30Z
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@thor Good point. Social media lets us pick who we socialize with more than physical reality does oftentimes.
(DIR) Post #AVqZs1XtsCmoiW1dxY by errante@rot.gives
2023-05-20T13:03:01.142811Z
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@amerika @thor arm too many crazy people, and that might end up problematic...
(DIR) Post #AVqZuO3V9aob6nvwUC by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:04:21Z
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@errante @icedquinn @amerika in one of the Masto APIs, sharing a post is called a "reblog"
(DIR) Post #AVqZuOZlDecSir1hlg by errante@rot.gives
2023-05-20T13:03:26.759074Z
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@thor @icedquinn @amerika oh my
(DIR) Post #AVqaDJ0u7iiIyQjvn6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:08:40Z
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@thor Geeks are normal healthy people at their core. They are just prone to get obsessed by things as a method of understanding them in order to have power over them so that they can be creative with them, in my view.We like being liked and we really dig being recognized for the cool stuff we can do, not so much for the "we" but for the "cool."
(DIR) Post #AVqaHj9CtsA3BWjQm0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:09:28Z
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@thor For me, it became clear early on that the way to make people like you was to be interesting and possibly to manipulate their emotions.The latter part struck me as immoral and still does for the most part. I do not like manipulating people; it gives bad data and is not kind.
(DIR) Post #AVqaQyEKC1imZKX6no by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:11:06Z
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@thor They all tend to buy from similar suppliers, so it is probably not an issue.When I bring home a new plant, I repot it in some "organic" potting soil which means peat and cow manure added to regular ol' dirt. If the plant likes sandy soil, there is a mix for that as well.Then I squeeze the sides of the plastic pot a few times to make the plant slide out easily, and take it out, then massage the roots and snip off any overgrowth.Then it goes into a new pot with more dirt.
(DIR) Post #AVqaW0bUnLdnNXm1Ee by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:12:02Z
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@thor So, here our biggest problem is too much sun. It is easy to kill plants that way. I like this plant because it is effortlessly verdant: leave a seed lying around, come back to a full plant two weeks later.This means I have to look up the plant to see how much sun it likes.
(DIR) Post #AVqacLqeimHV0MtAvY by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:13:09Z
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@amerika it's probably hard for a plant to die from too much sun here. i think it's more likely that sub-zero temps for one night is gonna kill it.
(DIR) Post #AVqaf1dyIWllD6EOCe by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:13:40Z
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@Coyote @thor Texas A&M = Texas Agricultural and Mechanical, meaning you learned how to grow plants, take care of livestock, and fix tractors.Back in the day.You can still get cool degrees like this:https://catalog.tamu.edu/undergraduate/agriculture-life-sciences/soil-crop-sciences/plant-environmental-soil-science-crops-bs-emphasis/
(DIR) Post #AVqalCZGaxZspPyXXk by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:14:48Z
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@Coyote @thor I liked growing stuff, even before I found the "interesting" plants.Biology is like magic to me. That a tiny seed can make a huge tree in a few short years is... mind-blowing.How plants react and thrive and work together across species lines is really interesting to me too.It's just awe-inspiring, especially in a place which goes from hum-drum to everything green in a few short weeks.
(DIR) Post #AVqau28ck3sV5Tj064 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:14:02Z
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@amerika it's generally safe to assume that Norway is above zero for the summer half year but sometimes, it can get freakishly cold at night.
(DIR) Post #AVqau2jUWzMuvoyRYu by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:14:30Z
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@amerika zero as in 0ºC
(DIR) Post #AVqau3R5usFN73NGWe by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:16:22Z
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@thor That is some serious cold. It gets down to that temperature once or twice a year here.I guess they are going to be indoor plants in winter, then? Are they annuals or perennials?
(DIR) Post #AVqazGbYNnXBP1kgAi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:17:20Z
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@errante @thor Not really. That's the interesting thing.Crazy people look for easy targets.In places where everyone is armed, they know that people who transgress too hard will die in a hail of bullets.Then again, you are going to see people get shot when you are growing up, and you may shock yourself by concluding that it was a good thing.
(DIR) Post #AVqb83GpKRmgeZFK1w by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:18:55Z
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@thor We have some nasty wasps around here. The red ones are aggressive, and the cicada killers are... well, best avoided, although they are not usually confrontational.I trap critters if I can. I have an awesome clear plastic container from blank DVD-ROMs that is great for it. The trick is to trap, then wait for the creature to calm down.There is actually less risk of getting stung this way although it doesn't look like it.
(DIR) Post #AVqbAzVJmvW7qDQSsy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:19:27Z
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@thor Now, we do have some nasty spiders here... a brown recluse will probably be removed by death.Cockroaches the same. You want to smash them and any egg cases inside of them.
(DIR) Post #AVqbF7cxWnjwC2yBKy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:20:12Z
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@errante @thor "Boost" is going to win out. "Toot" was always awkward. "Noting" and "renoting" is sort of nerdly but descriptive. I'll go with boost.
(DIR) Post #AVqbFOwj8YeZuHLi0e by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:20:09Z
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@amerika from what i've been told, they're not coming back if i leave them out over winter. and if i bring them indoors, they *might* survive winter.
(DIR) Post #AVqbTK5Q0DNwt93Ks4 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:22:46Z
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@thor They are very pretty. Bees are going to love that purple in the flowers. Also these look pretty healthy to me. They are used to having a lot of ambient light, if I could guess from the leaf distribution.
(DIR) Post #AVqbXmfRgGCKgo20LQ by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:16:28Z
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@Coyote @amerika working in the so-called blue collar professions often comes with a degree these days.also, demand is almost infinite. if your electricity isn't working, who you gonna call?if the piping has issues, again, who you gonna call?
(DIR) Post #AVqbXnVCZpb9HKFL16 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:17:30Z
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@Coyote @amerika i have some issues with my sinks that homegrown plumbing hasn't really resolved. i bet a professional could do a better job.
(DIR) Post #AVqbXoFdnAkFbLyQOu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:23:33Z
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@thor @Coyote High-end service and repair are well-paid here.Add HVAC to that list. You can make an assload of money with relatively little work by simply doing it right when you do it.
(DIR) Post #AVqbYQlAcOXp2918oy by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:23:40Z
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@amerika i lived for 6 months in Manila in a condo there.i made the mistake of opening a window to let in some air. old habit. in a tropical climate, the freshest air is from the air conditioner. outside, it's just heavy humid air and pollution.after ONE cockroach got in there, they just kept coming back. even after a janitor showed up and sprayed down the apartment.it didn't take me long to develop an almost reflexive reaction to cockroaches, in which the sight of one immediately lead to a foot coming down.
(DIR) Post #AVqbgRhT0RtIGa6hY8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:25:07Z
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@thor The climate here is probably closer to Manila than Norway, hilariously enough. Not quite tropical but very much on the edge.What you say is true. We never open the windows except in spring and winter.In summer, you stay sealed in your home, then get into a sealed car to drive to sealed offices, restaurants, gyms, shops, and so on.It is like being a goldfish to a degree.
(DIR) Post #AVqblBJXM9RGtVAk4G by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:25:59Z
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@thor I remember the Ministry guys talking about how they rented a house outside Austin and blasted cockroaches with shotguns.I have been tempted.Traps do not work, poisons sort of work, but the only long-term solution is finding out where they get in.Have to keep the goldfish bowl sealed!
(DIR) Post #AVqbrHjUPAncXSDo00 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:24:46Z
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@amerika i bought cockroach traps but they didn't give two fucks about them so it was a full on war.
(DIR) Post #AVqbrIYtK3ur6sGr7Q by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:25:43Z
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@amerika i also learned the hard way that those motherfuckers can fly
(DIR) Post #AVqbrPYnIozuobHNRI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T13:27:04Z
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@thor Not only that, but they fly toward noise, so if you scream... they are headed toward your face.They are amazing creatures but they belong in the woods.Leave them out there long enough and they turn green. Then they are pretty.The only other bug here worth fearing are those water bugs that are four inches long and have a painful bite.
(DIR) Post #AVqbsaAtK8Fk1beooi by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:27:18Z
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@amerika in Norway, you're happy when you get to see the sun and the green trees.in a tropical climate, the sun is a death ray and trees = huge nasty bugs
(DIR) Post #AVqfvF6eVm3JMsCNLE by Coyote@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T14:12:38.709730Z
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@thor @amerika europe blue collar still has training, US, it's on the job, no education at all hardly other than private trade school (mostly scam) stuff..
(DIR) Post #AVqh4c2khXBr4BPF6e by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-05-20T14:25:32Z
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@thatguyoverthere There are very few mosquitoes outside Moscow nowadays. They used to be a problem even in the city, there were no easily installable anti-mosquito nets, but lighter curtains were a must and vaporizers were nice to have. Outside of the city they still do come when you're cooking something in the kitchen late in the evening, but very few of them, still attracted by moist, heat and light, but you barely notice them at other times.@thor
(DIR) Post #AVqh7HHKMRtBXAUiES by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-05-20T14:26:01Z
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@thatguyoverthere It also seldomly gets below -30°C in winter, I remember when I was a schoolkid it even got below -40°C — this was a huge problem as it damaged hot water pipes. Now it rarely gets below -30°C during winter, for a week maybe, or less. Global warming or not, things are definitely changing.@thor
(DIR) Post #AVqhROX36OPVp2RNMe by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:28:32Z
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@amerika i thought the sun was my friend but when you're close to the equator, it's like some kind of lethal floodlight that will bake you
(DIR) Post #AVqhRPCsars3um0mZ6 by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:29:28Z
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@amerika it doesn't even have that charming yellow tint to it. it's 100% cold white like some kind of neon floodlight and it's there to cook you alive if you don't protect yourself.
(DIR) Post #AVqhRPpWHCmNqc5dnE by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:32:03Z
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@amerika the sun is never straight above you in Norway. so it's always passing through a bit of atmosphere.compared to living in an equatorial climate, it's almost as if the sun is always setting or rising.also, daylight further south works almost like a light switch. one moment, it's on. the next, it's off.further north, it's more gradual than that.
(DIR) Post #AVqhRQQk2oYNi3VMoK by thor@berserker.town
2023-05-20T13:34:40Z
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@amerika in Norway, the amount of sunlight is seasonal so you get like 3-4 hours of it in the winter but 20 hours in the summer.down south near the equator, it's almost mathematical. it rises at 6 AM and it's gone by 6 PM.
(DIR) Post #AVqhRR8hPNiPuO4TKK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T14:29:37Z
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@thor That sounds almost perfect. Always somewhere in its arc, never quite stationary.The closer one gets to the equator, the more sun exposure seems to be a thing... and the longer the sun just hangs there, baking everything.This is great for plants if they have enough water, less so for pasty and pale humans. We roast!
(DIR) Post #AVqhU0oLkiVV7bmTp2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T14:30:07Z
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@thor People have said similar things about the sunlight in New Zealand. Apparently it has some kind of mystical quality, but I imagine in the lands of the Northern Lights, the same is true in a different way.
(DIR) Post #AVqha47SMjbp7SbXAO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T14:31:13Z
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@Coyote @thor The credentialing system has taken over here.You get a job as an assistant, then get the credential, then you can take on the full job.It makes more sense to just allow the informal mentoring system to do this.I do not trust the regulations or meritocracy anyway; they teach to the test, not the reality of the job.
(DIR) Post #AVqhdI1h7Fpv7VRkx6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-20T14:31:48Z
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@Coyote @thor It's like what Thor was saying about IT/CS a few days back: most of the best creators were self-taught.They tend to be interested in technology, not just a degree to get a paycheck.
(DIR) Post #AVqjSV4YTDgwIxleOO by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T14:52:15.859775Z
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@m0xee @thor yeah it's noticeable. I question whether we are causing temperature rises but the winters of my youth were quite a bit different. I think we have a hell of an environmental impact even if we aren't contributing to temperature rises. I just doubt many of the offered solutions.
(DIR) Post #AVqnjk9655ejnFMz6u by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-05-20T15:40:12Z
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@thatguyoverthere Same here. I do agree that if we want to have sustainable economy we have to strongly tone down on consumption, economy can't be based on mass-producing electronics that goes into garbage bin in 2-3 years (on computers running cryptographic hash function 24/7 either).But some of the problems raised are questionable to say the least, e.g. I don't get the beef problem. I'm not against people not eating meat when it's their choice.@thor
(DIR) Post #AVqnmMevrNNXotVhDs by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-05-20T15:40:40Z
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@thatguyoverthere Doesn't work for me, I do feel myself better when I'm on carnivore diet. I'm also not against looking for new sources of protein, but I still think that the whole problem is way overblown.The whole renting instead of owning does work when it really allows people to save, but it shouldn't be imposed on everyone — and it feels especially hypocritical when people who tell us that are brought in to their regular COP by dozens of private jets 🤷@thor
(DIR) Post #AVqq8zFPGnfpmKUB5E by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-20T16:07:10.019220Z
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@m0xee @thor the beef thing is weird, because on the one hand, I agree that the way we farm beef is generally unsustainable, but it's really a much more local problem that could be solved by spreading out the farms. Instead of having a handful of massive feed lots a bunch of small farms that primarily feed grasses to the cows (which they can graze on their own) is much more sustainable, and the quality of meat is higher which results in better health for the people eating it. Instead somehow the solution is stop farming meat and start farming crickets and algae.
(DIR) Post #AVsfcbKQ3SqN6PfWkK by Vedrfolnir@berserker.town
2023-05-21T13:18:40Z
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@amerika @Coyote @thor I’ve been doing electrical work for 10 years and learned on the job. My job title is electrician now, but I just never got my journeyman’s license. The only reason to get that would be if you wanted a job as a supervisor, maintenance position, or start your own company. Some places will pay the same whether you have a journeyman’s license or not, like where I work now, they base it on what you can actually do, not what the piece of paper says you can. A few years ago I worked for a different company and one lead man on one job site had his journeyman’s license and only 3 years of experience, he got the position just because he had a journeyman’s license but I had to show him how to wire motors, a three way switch, and everything on the fire alarm, he had no clue, the only way I could see how he got the job as a lead man is because he was a good bullshitter.
(DIR) Post #AVsfljcObPWxQ4QsLY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-21T13:20:20Z
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@Vedrfolnir @Coyote @thor The use of tests and credentials is dangerous.Get good at what is on the test, and you can go farther than someone who knows what he is doing.
(DIR) Post #AVsgo3ePC2jo5A2n9U by Vedrfolnir@berserker.town
2023-05-21T13:31:56Z
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@amerika @thor In the area I live, most people have a vegetable garden, it’s usually the men tilling the soil and planting, you don’t normally see a woman doing the tilling, and then both men and women tend to it, women do most of the tending to it because they stay at home, the men don’t have as much time because of their work. I used to have a big garden but now just plant what I can manage while still working a full time job.
(DIR) Post #AVsjy6f39gXeB2pRC4 by Vedrfolnir@berserker.town
2023-05-21T14:07:22Z
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@amerika @Coyote @thor Yea. The guy I was talking about would never make it in the company I work for now, there’s no way he could have bullshit his way into a lead position with more pay. the other company had about 600 employees and there was a lot of so called “journeymen” like him, the HR manager wasn’t even an electrician and you had to pass a few basic tests online to get hired, the ones with a journeyman’s license could bullshit their way into a lead position. The company I work for now is a small family owned business with only around 30 employees, the pay is better, they don’t have an HR manager, the owner is the one that hires, they did have a few simple tests online but during the interview the owner, who is a master electrician, asks some hard technical questions, what companies and job sites have you worked on, what have you done on those jobs, basically they wanted to know what exactly you can do in detail. I told them I don’t have my journeyman license, and I know I was asking for journeyman’s pay, but after I explained what I could do, I was actually surprised they gave me what I was asking for. Sure I could have got my journeyman’s license probably 5 or 6 years ago and bullshit like the rest of them, fake it until you make it, but I can’t stand a liar. It took me 10 years of on the job training and experience and 4 different companies to get where I’m at. Might have taken me longer than some people but at least I can say I didn’t lie to get where I’m at.
(DIR) Post #AVskEd3aTac1HgBUbg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-21T14:10:23Z
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@Vedrfolnir @thor Nothing like getting home at 6:30 to have two hours of additional work in the garden.I suppose that if it defrayed food costs, and one could work fewer hours as a result, it might pay off.People distrust gardens however because nature is inconsistent. Some years have better yields than others.
(DIR) Post #AVskKOY5KW8A1eCOCu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-21T14:11:25Z
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@Vedrfolnir @Coyote @thor Also: if you get sane managers, they take a look at stuff like that.The guy that made his way into a position without the credentialing must know something, especially if he is not covered with electrical burn scars.
(DIR) Post #AVskUQ3mZ9TNbmnyKW by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-21T14:13:14.684172Z
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@amerika @Vedrfolnir @thor diversify and grow perennials that require far less maintenance.
(DIR) Post #AVske6ywLvhfKoA5iq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-21T14:14:59Z
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@thatguyoverthere @thor @Vedrfolnir I plant local here, and those tend to be perennials since we do not really have seasons.
(DIR) Post #AVslUTyW6rfvhlw6MK by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-21T14:24:27.344265Z
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@amerika @thor @Vedrfolnir I prefer perennial planting. There is usually a little bit of effort getting them going but once they are established they are almost maintenance free except for occasionally pruning and feeding (especially local cultivars).
(DIR) Post #AVsmB6JnwMX8msDPLE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-21T14:32:08Z
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@thatguyoverthere @thor @Vedrfolnir Me too. Speaking of soil health, I tend to plant like a pot grower, namely digging out large areas of the clay and mixing it into with composed peat and cow manure. As the plant grows, its roots naturally break down the clay and mix up the soil.
(DIR) Post #AVsmjzFgCnS10Rv9iC by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-05-21T14:38:28.047807Z
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@amerika @thor @Vedrfolnir some plants are especially good at breaking up hard soils (alfalfa). Others not so much. I follow a similar pattern although I don't import manure or compost as I have plenty here to go around. You can't use chicken shit the same way as cow manure, but once it has had a chance to compost/breakdown it's excellent fertilizer. I also add in charcoal/biochar, and if it's going into pots I'll add something to help keep it aerated (chick grit and/or oyster shell work).