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(DIR) Post #AVoJD2HuUGD6dSjTTE by stux@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T10:48:31Z
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I find it super weird that people automactically asume I am against nuclear enegery because I love our planet.. :amaze: Uh.. I am super PRO nuclear enegery instead of endlessly burning fossil fuelsUntil we have, if ever discovered fusion I think fission is the way to goThe few nuclear mistakes on this planet are mostly caused by hoomans and reactors stand surpsingly well against nature forcesWe really need to stop making the stuff we breath toxic
(DIR) Post #AVoJSkSCYrAzxR2Rjk by danny@strangeminds.social
2023-05-19T10:51:01Z
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@stux from what I've read, nuclear fusion seems to be the way to go
(DIR) Post #AVoJUiv9ESoxmXWHnE by stux@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T10:51:48Z
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@danny I also think so 😮 It's a challenge but the sun is a puurfect example
(DIR) Post #AVoJWvm0PxuYDrIQ40 by stux@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T10:52:08Z
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@ozoned Ohhh...! :blobcatgiggle: That's like unlimited enegery :meowpumpkin:
(DIR) Post #AVoJY01Y6DYnhB4lSC by TLB73@mastodon.social
2023-05-19T10:52:25Z
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@stux I've stood atop the turbine of Dungeness BStood "round the back" where the water exhaust port is, felt the warm spray on my body.Seen the various bits associated with treating the coolant water.Gazed into the spent fuel holding pools!I would have acquired more radiation by eating a banana!
(DIR) Post #AVoJlii9GUgu3RXmrY by ablackcatstail@goblackcat.net
2023-05-19T10:54:49Z
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@stux Very well stated! Nuclear energy is the cleanest energy available. It is absolutely the way to go.
(DIR) Post #AVoJpKEoCKJpJJXWEK by fabiscafe@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T10:55:23Z
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@stux nah. Nuclear energy eats to much water, makes us dependent on a few countries for 20+ years, takes a lot of time and money to even be ready to use and is always a good spot to attack for terrorist.There's is literally nothing good in our currently possible forms of nuclear energy generation.
(DIR) Post #AVoKKYnU7IOTRUeY40 by justafrog@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T11:01:11Z
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@stux The thing that bothers me about opposition to nuclear is that on the one hand you have a few cubic meters of nuclear waste, and on the other you have the weather flying off the rails and making our life very hard.The scale of the problems is not at all in the same league.If we're trying to reduce human suffering and environmental damage, we really shouldn't do anything to keep coal/oil/gas fired plants going, even if the alternative isn't 100% perfect.
(DIR) Post #AVoKVNaa81ljrmmDbs by the_white_wolf@social.tchncs.de
2023-05-19T11:02:56Z
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@stuxI'm clearly against nuclear energy because it leaves us radiant waste for thousand of years. We don't what to do with this waste.
(DIR) Post #AVoKZSkwrJOD3CZZOS by pre@boing.world
2023-05-19T11:03:48Z
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@stux Yeah. The Green Party is right about many things but they are very wrong about nucelar power.A world serious about ending global warming would be building a new nuclear reactor every month.
(DIR) Post #AVoKg9mNoS7gDpR4kK by martinlentink@mastodon.social
2023-05-19T11:05:03Z
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@stux we need to stop burning stuff, and we need to do it *now*
(DIR) Post #AVoLDooKHQjh2DOb1U by thisleenoble@mastodon.online
2023-05-19T11:11:07Z
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@stux Agreed. I find it hard to believe there isn’t *somewhere* underground somewhere in the world where it would be perfectly safe to store waste long term.
(DIR) Post #AVoLslgIotwnCaAXWC by tomasveneny@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T11:18:26Z
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@stux Honestyl, I found nuclear energy the cleanest source for making energy.So I don't understand why germans & austrians are against it ... wait, I lied here ... cheap ruSSian gas is / was reason and it also why germans & austrians are so pro-green dealGreen deal is dead .. it just depends if it will kill whole europe or not.
(DIR) Post #AVoMZgkZ1vTYMNd16G by bornach@masto.ai
2023-05-19T11:26:19Z
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@stux @dannyFrom what I've read commercially viable nuclear fusion is still decades away
(DIR) Post #AVoMvMP5MGsNcxuqDQ by funguy2playwith@mastodon.online
2023-05-19T11:30:11Z
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@stux There is a really interesting TED Talks episode here from 4 years ago by Michael Shellenberger. He has some very valid points in that nuclear might be a better option than renewables, for now at least. https://youtu.be/N-yALPEpV4w
(DIR) Post #AVoOX4FxNSoIIrBqGO by Gothilla@nutmeg.social
2023-05-19T11:48:13Z
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@stux unfortunately, nuclear power plants have to be run by Hoomons.
(DIR) Post #AVoOfnfsOjzpTuTgH2 by jfalava@mas.to
2023-05-19T11:49:50Z
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@stux the bad (really bad) thing about them is the exhausted nuclear material. No purpose, super dangerous for thousands of years and we generate so much of it.
(DIR) Post #AVoQk6LN7zJgRx48FE by mattwilcox@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T12:13:03Z
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@stux Applications for nuclear that make financial and time sense are few and far between now. It's cheaper and faster to tool up the same Gwh supply with renewables than nuclear most of the time.Nuclear's a good backup to have - but not a sensible main source anymore. The tech moved on.
(DIR) Post #AVoV7cpCvfeNfKUetU by VojtechHorky@mastodon.pirati.cz
2023-05-19T13:01:52Z
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@stux Nuclear energy is mostly fine (except for the toxic waste). The issue is that reactors are expensive and therefore only a few get built and the resulting grid is very centralised. I am personally in favour of decentralised systems (hello fediverse) and as such I think we should move towards a decentralised power grid with the help of renewables.
(DIR) Post #AVoVRE3kiSDUeHdvkW by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2023-05-19T13:05:42Z
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@the_white_wolf @stux We already have heaps of that waste. Adding a little to the pile won't make it substantially harder to get rid of. For that reason, closing down perfectly fine reactors (replacing them with filthy coal) is a terrible idea.
(DIR) Post #AVoWVvkyIEjTHkfKhE by pairko@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-19T13:17:32Z
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@stux The rush to install small fission reactors is a sign that executives believe fusion truly is around the corner & seek to get established before becoming obsolete. The problem of fission, the lesson of Chernoby, is that its waste has a geological scale lifespan while civilizations do not. The nation that builds it won't, history says, be around to clean it up. Most operational problems are human problems, fine, but the solution is to eliminate all humans, but that's no solution at all.
(DIR) Post #AVoeBqRj7usienb6nY by RD4Anarchy@kolektiva.social
2023-05-19T14:43:39Z
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@stux Our real dilemma is not about how to meet our insane energy needs, it is to address the insanity of those "needs".It wouldn't matter even if we discover a perfectly clean, free and safe source of energy if we continue using that energy to transform everything into shit.That we even find ourselves in the position to want to gamble on fission energy probably means we've already gone too far to reverse course.As for fusion, it will never happen IMO (it has always been "decades away" for many decades now), and even if it did it presents many of it's own serious problems. It's not the clean, sustainable solution many think. Investigate issues with helium and tritium shortages for example, and gamma rays.
(DIR) Post #AVop8uKhJpWxL26z44 by MKH@masto.ai
2023-05-19T16:46:22Z
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@stux but what to do with the radioactive waste?
(DIR) Post #AVovwoLsQh6EzbqHXk by The_GNU_Ninja@mstdn.social
2023-05-19T18:02:41Z
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@stux You may find Sabine's channel interesting 👇https://youtu.be/0kahih8RT1k🖖
(DIR) Post #AVp4jgwRZJ1TpilUem by Bredroll@mas.to
2023-05-19T19:41:09Z
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@stux I am not against nuclear energy, indeed if we have plants we should use them, we should extend the life of those we have too. However, the cost of nuclear generated electricity produced for the lifetime of a plant (include cost of construction, fuel and decommissioning) is far far higher per MWh produced than any wind or solar generator including the same life cycle costs. If we spend $1bn on offshore wind, we getmore, cheaper power than $1bn spent on a *new* nuclear plant.