Post AVmrfnYbLKbxTKVSF6 by sapphire@needs.vodka
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 (DIR) Post #AVlf4g4WofZ2w20s1A by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-17T19:17:34Z
       
       5 likes, 2 repeats
       
       Why are self called "meat eaters" triggered by my sustainable life style? It's not like I destroy the planet they are living on or harm any living being with my life style or have any negative impact on anything, except of destructive world views.And instead of having a constructive discussion, they insult me and others, who are living like me. #sustainability #vegan #meat #meateater #planetdestroyer #lifestyle #discussion
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlf4goG4e8zDrPOIS by StampedingLonghorn@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T04:00:11Z
       
       6 likes, 0 repeats
       
       I'm not vegan, btw.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlf4hfQswg7smHrBA by alex@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-18T04:09:24.504052Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @StampedingLonghorn ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlf7aZxhBf2le6W0G by alex@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-18T04:10:03.534944Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @StampedingLonghorn ...I'm vegan btw.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlfAMA1l77Cv1IESW by animeirl@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T04:10:36.572202Z
       
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       @utopify_org do you drive?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlfSzI70mrZUYxUum by charliebrownau@poa.st
       2023-05-18T04:13:59.117329Z
       
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       @alex @StampedingLonghorn Why are you veganDo you believe the bullshit that the International Mainstream and Commies/Marxists pushAre you willing to give Keto a go for 4-8 weeksVegan = Beta - yewtu.be/watch?v=VALpI6j7naAKeto = Chad
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlg2sXHba3QxwAWy8 by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T04:20:23.285041Z
       
       17 likes, 5 repeats
       
       @utopify_org because you people make it impossible to plan any large event where food is served, like a free lunch at work.  our diets are completely incompatible, especially considering how many non-meat dishes are cooked with butter, milk, and eggs, and how the only good way to fry things is in tallow.not to mention the non-food animal products that y'all want to replace with shitty plastics.  leather?  shitty plastic.  wool?  shitty plastic.  down?  shitty plastic.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlgODAg4v4l2wleue by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T04:24:15.019848Z
       
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       @animeirl @utopify_org you will sit in the leather seatyou will shift the leather trimmed gear shifteryou will turn the leather trimmed steering wheeland you will be happy
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlgceYN4Kp01bjibI by deprecated_ii@poa.st
       2023-05-18T04:26:55.903769Z
       
       7 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @skylar @animeirl @utopify_org I have at least six cows worth of leather in my living room furnitureit's really nice
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlgx4S6UG2k8mXab2 by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T04:30:33.240193Z
       
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       @deprecated_ii @animeirl @utopify_org i have no cows in my living room, it's a regular fabric couch
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlh4z3cQfCXj1rT6G by MachineMadeDog@poa.st
       2023-05-18T04:32:03.377967Z
       
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       @deprecated_ii @skylar @animeirl @utopify_org "imagine the smell":sniffing_intensifies:
       
 (DIR) Post #AVljYZVWBhK94y9CZU by 1967GTO@poa.st
       2023-05-18T04:59:48.377942Z
       
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       @skylar @deprecated_ii @animeirl @utopify_org >it's a regular fabric couchmfw Skylar doesn't know under which brand name corporate marketed his fabric. My car's seats are... lol... covered in Naugahyde! (folks at Uniroyal must've done a lot of drugs)
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlkI5kJAjwC62lrPs by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T05:07:59.344287Z
       
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       @1967GTO @deprecated_ii @animeirl @utopify_org well it's a couch!  what kind it is doesn't really matter, they all work the same.  what matters is that it's comfy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlkdKry8dbV5BU4hc by Deplorable_Degenerate@poa.st
       2023-05-18T05:11:52.843547Z
       
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       @alex @StampedingLonghorn Nobody is perfect. I still like you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlkyQfnkt3tADqpKi by PoalackJokes88@poa.st
       2023-05-18T05:15:41.485021Z
       
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       @skylar @utopify_org Tallow? Butter? Shitty plastic and yellow dye.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVln09vFCo4DhQ1j7Y by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T05:23:25Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl So you think all vegans replace everything with plastic, but you are better, because you are an exception with a couch made out of fabric? You know that vegans have access to the same resources and know even more materials, which are sustainable, because vegans are in general mindful? And I didn't understand the part with the leather in the car? Do you want to say it's better to live a destructive live, because you can only live 99.9% vegan?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVln0AWox67nZxbjgu by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T05:38:19.825540Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl i would prefer a couch made from animals and plants to a couch made from petrochemicalsanyway, you have a midwit's understanding of what is sustainable.  while there are many problems with modern industrial scale animal agriculture, livestock are a necessary part of maintaining soil health and modern industrial scale crop farming is far more destructive.  you can't rely on the haber-bosch process forever.  sooner or later, you run out of natural gas and need to till some manure into the soil.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlnU9AmYY563wasvw by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T05:37:46Z
       
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       @animeirl Drive a car? Yes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlnUALSCMDBhKavCq by animeirl@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T05:43:48.981309Z
       
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       @utopify_org So then you don't live a sustainable lifestyle.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlngOPDkLcCmWBdJY by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T05:36:11Z
       
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       @skylar Impossible? I think any catering service has healthy food and you really must choose unhealthy/not vegan food actively to avoid that it is planed based.I understand what you mean, because at every event at work they order unhealthy stuff which is most likely sticky, because of cheese or with butter dough and if this isn't enough, it's full of sugar. But it's not impossible, because of vegans, it's because someone wants to force their unhealthy live style to others.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlngP1VS0EwhG6CzQ by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T05:45:57.915792Z
       
       7 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @utopify_org i am tired of the endless bagels, donuts, and other sugary baked goods.  i advocate for brisket, or at least a good bucket of chicken wings, for every catered meal
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlo0rdcls9dEfgYRk by animeirl@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T05:49:43.783577Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @bot @utopify_org he cares apparently since he brought it up
       
 (DIR) Post #AVloJstKKsFwcn6F6m by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T05:53:07.471835Z
       
       9 likes, 3 repeats
       
       @utopify_org actually veganism isn’t sustainable at all, you rely on the global trade network to provide you with out of season fruits and vegetables (usually grown in third world countries on deforested land) for most of the year, plus most food for vegetarians/vegans that isn’t homemade from scratch is heavily processed in hydrogenated oils, which are made with a very environmentally unfriendly process Just because your food doesn’t fart doesn’t mean a lot of environmental damage isn’t caused by their production
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlouccPngHAs0hu0u by MercurialBlack@pleroma.mercurial.blog
       2023-05-18T05:59:49.236208Z
       
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       @utopify_org @10grans tip 0.000000000001 to @utopify_org
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlovBT4EQawx9bQno by 10grans@fedi.cc
       2023-05-18T05:59:51Z
       
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       @MercurialBlack, you sent 1e-12 :10grans: to @utopify_org and have 0.52999998999882 remaining.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlp5KOBuvR3WB9v1s by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T06:01:40.232233Z
       
       8 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @skylar @utopify_org if you aren't willing to roast an entire pig for this meeting it can be an email
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlq2ikUzX3k9buizQ by AidanTTIerian@poa.st
       2023-05-18T06:12:29.553151Z
       
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       @utopify_org Animals have been eating other animals for millions of years, you gigantic fart-sniffing faggot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVls9OaMYb1BYNU21w by 1967GTO@poa.st
       2023-05-18T06:36:06.298023Z
       
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       @utopify_org @skylar @animeirl >vegans have access to the same resources and know even more materials, which are sustainable, because vegans are in general mindful? Vegans don't know shit. One sat next to my brother at a theater. yOuR jAcKeT iS LeAtHeR. yOu ShOuLd mOvE tO aNoThEr sEaT. No, it's synthetic. Feel it. See how soft it is?   oH, SoRRy. It was genuine leather. Vegans lack a lot of processing power.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVltD2DNlwxVHi29Gi by diresock@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-05-18T06:47:58.579342Z
       
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       @utopify_org Veganism is unsustainable for human beings, and the only "vegans" that are remotely healthy are the ones saying that they are vegan on the internet while stuffing their faces with chilidogs IRL.Veganism is a cult pushed on young impressionable people, usually women who are the majority of vegans.Fun fact: 90% of vegans give up on this madness within 1 year, with the most commonly given reason being health concerns.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVltXnjSoUKkRtwRSC by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T06:51:39.364630Z
       
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       @1967GTO @deprecated_ii @animeirl @utopify_org @skylar lol niggahyde
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlxY31iLgzlhTqqCu by BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital
       2023-05-18T07:36:34.947500Z
       
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       "If you have a problem with my jacket YOU move to another seat, faggot."
       
 (DIR) Post #AVlxb0FB9TV7wEYg6K by MusicVideoGuy@detroitriotcity.com
       2023-05-18T07:37:07.021823Z
       
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       @utopify_org Your canine teeth are not vestigial
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm0RkoVS2oNL3McW8 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T07:37:47Z
       
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       @book 1. I don't drink coffee, because for coffee beans a lot of rain forest gets destroyed and a lot of animals lose their habitat or get killed.2. I prefer spelt and oat as my "milk", because those are grown locally (in my country).3. Around 77% of all soy on this planet is used to create food for livestock and not for vegans or humans at all. If you seriously care about those 50,000 voles you are referring to, you should reduce your meat consumption.#vegan #livestock #sustainability
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm0sheLK4YpLQSbAW by HumongusChungus@poa.st
       2023-05-18T08:13:56.164361Z
       
       6 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @utopify_org I will eat your Children
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm1S5Sqlx0JL7xOrI by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:18:31Z
       
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       @book How do you even think that my oats and spelt create as much suffering as your bacon?Seriously, I am curious! Because if there is something highly destructive in my life, I want to reduce or get rid off it and I am thankful for every tip.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm1x0HS5zw0EuMrjs by Deplorable_Degenerate@poa.st
       2023-05-18T08:25:55.227525Z
       
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       @HumongusChungus @utopify_org Remember, Hitler was a vegetarian....So they might be alright.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm28adFHXzSAQ5POK by HumongusChungus@poa.st
       2023-05-18T08:28:00.771070Z
       
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       @Deplorable_Degenerate @utopify_org People say that Hitler was a Vegetarian, but People also say that Hitler was a Communist, a Homosexual, and a Jew, so it probably is not true.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm2DD7y6AVAiWeyzA by Deplorable_Degenerate@poa.st
       2023-05-18T08:28:51.014960Z
       
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       @HumongusChungus @utopify_org Shit can't argue with that logic.I guess go on eating their children (if they have any)
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm2cGVOg10YQuZ7c8 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:29:33Z
       
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       @book I don't know were you get the numbers from, but let's go back to the food of the animals you eat.What do you think what pigs eat?You can't pull a line at the 1 life of the pig. You need a lot of resources to feed the pig until you get meat out of it, which costs a lot more lives.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm2cubTapdcnLiXdw by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:32:54Z
       
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       @book I have an idea, because I occupy myself with this topics almost every day, because I want to get a better version of myself.I can reassure you, I eat only organic food. In organic farming, among other destructive things, synthetic pesticides are banned.But animals like pigs or cows don't get organic food at all. This would be too expensive and many people don't like expensive meat.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm2mFvhfiqjXkdN3Y by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:34:55Z
       
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       @book Well, that's only your point of view and not a scientific fact. It is possible, but it's a matter of motivation and mindset.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm3RNTWWTTQon3sA4 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:41:26Z
       
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       @book Please stop claiming weird stuff, because pigs couldn't survive very long with sawdust, other pigs and M&Ms. Most pics (in mass breading) get fed with some vegetables and most likely with grains. A lot of grains, which kill a lot of other animals (like you wrote above). If you skip the pig and eat the gains directly, you need much less and therefore kill less animals. But you over-read this part several times, because I already mentioned it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm3dbaprHiG4yJPnM by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:42:59Z
       
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       @book It is even forbidden to feed pigs to other pigs because it can produce diseases. At least in the EU it is forbidden (I don't know where you are from?).
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm3pj125TtoZhLROS by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T08:47:00.639118Z
       
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       @sapphire @utopify_org Its based on Plato's idea of feeding the lower classes garbage anyway if pushed from the top. Or even worse, suggested to heretics by demons.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm3tbhtCemh47F3Vw by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:47:07Z
       
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       @book That's not true!I am a good example that it can work, because I am a better version of myself I was 6 years ago. I had a really destructive lifestyle and I reduced or removed a lot of it and today I am healthy and life very sustainable. And I really don't understand why it is so hard to believe that it is possible to change something on this planet?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm4Ed8t3rbFbAtVzs by eee@poa.st
       2023-05-18T08:51:30.802720Z
       
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       @utopify_org @utopify_org @book you're still gay tho frfr
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm5xoS7xMKhf80D2m by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:00:50Z
       
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       @maxmustermann @sapphire The thing is, that livestock get fed by those grains, fruits and vegetables, too, which many people forget. If this food would been eaten by humans directly, the destructive impact would be much much less, because humans need less resources (grains, veggies, etc.) than an animal like a cow or pig.Veganism is always more sustainable than eating an animal, which eats the human eatable food. Only because I fart, it doesn't mean I have a destructive lifestyle.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm5xp2dlbXXUN5MxM by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T09:10:51.207270Z
       
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       @utopify_org @sapphire No it isn’t. The magical word of the week is: Arable land. Do you even know how little there is? Most soil isn’t. This is why its more sustainable to let cattle eat grass on the soil that isn’t usable for growing food than shipping garbage all over the place. Do you know why soy is expensive here in contrary to Japan where it is traditionally used as cheap side dish besides real fish and real pork belly? Because that bullshit has to be trucked all over the place and heavily processed to get it into a form factor stupid Tengu would eat instead. Same goes for Saitan and all the other stuff that are used to make nuggers in factories. They are not considered food but life style products. Life style products more and more people can not afford. Besides the actual unsustainability of a purely vegan diet for all of mankind, it is permanent malnutrition. Most people who stick to it lose all their marbles, because they don’t get the necessary proteins and vitamins that are in animal products. Without supplements, your teeth would also fall out your muscles shrink.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm77c7UlR86GMaaye by D00B@seal.cafe
       2023-05-18T09:23:51.153650Z
       
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       @book @utopify_org one sec
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm7F6IswLwPu3UF9M by D00B@seal.cafe
       2023-05-18T09:25:12.529375Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @book @utopify_org
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm7KuAUyJ8e0IKd3g by D00B@seal.cafe
       2023-05-18T09:26:15.572372Z
       
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       @book @utopify_org this dude also has a video where he shows boxes labeled "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" in giant letters that they feed to the pigs. As long as there's a medium between the human you can feed the human anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm8CdDsBu3l5MWrHE by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:32:53Z
       
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       @D00B @book Can you post the source or the name? I am curious...
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm8Cdmy5Q8GqCwsym by D00B@seal.cafe
       2023-05-18T09:35:56.312754Z
       
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       @utopify_org @book i dont have the name or the 2nd video
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm8EggeHZXSPNy8GG by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:31:01Z
       
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       @D00B @book This is really alarming and disgusting. How can one even defend this with a sane mind?But this could be one explanation why people have so much plastic in their bodies: https://wwf.panda.org/wwf_news/?348371%2FCould-you-be-eating-a-credit-card-a-week
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm8sxJFtnV3XvECy8 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:39:52Z
       
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       @D00B @book oh man, that's a pity. Would be interesting to know more about it.Where you got the first video from?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm8sxyjPag1cYdKcK by D00B@seal.cafe
       2023-05-18T09:43:35.813894Z
       
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       @utopify_org @book someone posted it on fedi
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm91H1iTW4J0wzUGm by professorpowerbottom@seal.cafe
       2023-05-18T09:20:54.716460Z
       
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       that goes for livestock too, plastic is mixed into the feed
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm91KOVxD5TSWgEim by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:25:18Z
       
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       @professorpowerbottom @book Aren't people afraid of the amount of plastic the meat contains, because most of the stuff the animal eats, will end up in the human body. But I guess some people already eat a credit card a week and some plastic more would make a difference: https://wwf.panda.org/wwf_news/?348371%2FCould-you-be-eating-a-credit-card-a-week
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm93rZFaVxgvHuWki by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:49:59Z
       
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       @book Poor animals and poor humans who eat the meat, because how does the meat should even have any nutrition, if the pig wasn't able to get any?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm97UXx7ZcAgQ2AT2 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T08:53:34Z
       
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       @book Explain it to me, how it is a lie, if I read scientific papers about sustainability, the impact of the environment and building a lifestyle on those facts?Isn't it more a lie to come up with stories and building up another thing on it to get an excuse?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm9XRIJpq9I7s5tz6 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:49:55Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom That's, again, a black and white/1 and 0/all or nothing view on the thing.You can reduce the amount of micro plastic in your body drastically. There is no 100% escape, but come on, do you really believe you can't reduce it massively?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVm9pGOZ64iVXEVzdI by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:53:29Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom Thank god not everyone is thinking like this, because the planet would be already screwed up if there wouldn't be people who destroy it less.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmANczlZq5DTQImKu by Ottovonshitpost@mugicha.club
       2023-05-18T10:00:19.007322Z
       
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       >sustainableLOL
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmAYpVfO9xlTKZ3PU by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:58:21Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom I know the current state of the planet, because I occupy myself with sustainable topics.But scientist (yes, I know, you don't believe them) say, there is still a chance to save the planet and not reach the point of no return, which is a point we will reach in around 1-2 decades. For this a lot of people have to change something in their lives...
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmBDnDOpCZgEDYKZs by confederatehobo@mugicha.club
       2023-05-18T10:09:44.224231Z
       
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       You scarf down way too much dong to be a vegan.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmBLIyd8LeKlME7Fo by alex@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-18T10:11:03.219282Z
       
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       @charliebrownau @StampedingLonghorn That guy you posted is the dumbest idiot I've ever seen.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmBtV8WQnEGJx9x0C by TalmudTranslator@poa.st
       2023-05-18T10:16:02.718763Z
       
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       @alex @charliebrownau @StampedingLonghorn Do you love black people?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmBtVoLvGgoPgjMCe by charliebrownau@poa.st
       2023-05-18T10:17:20.178820Z
       
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       @TalmudTranslator @alex @StampedingLonghorn Only when they move to Israel
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmEUvrEFHZJol2y92 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T10:42:57Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom And on which facts are your theories based on?I somehow think you are looking for excuses to not change anything in your life, because you are a little bit too lazy to do anything 😜 Isn't there a little bit of truth in this sentence?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmFfSwMCQi3Gv23yi by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T09:20:59Z
       
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       @maxmustermann @sapphire Most of the arable land on this planet is used to feed livestock. The food of your meat is shipped from Africa and other places, which are far away, instead of feeding hungry humans there.It gets shipped to the places were still some grass is, which is occupied by the meat industry (cows). Cows produce a lot of methane and other gases.And the meat of the cows gets shipped to "meat eaters".This is a waste of resources!
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmFfTdbbdIvR3GbOC by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T10:59:31.640525Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann you’re welcome to eat that grass instead, tell me how it works out for you
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmHBmpTt5zMB4n9AO by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T10:58:12Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom I don't want to be blasphemic or something, but religion shouldn't be used if you want to build on facts.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmHvwI72bqaqNBuV6 by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2023-05-18T11:25:00.381963Z
       
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       @utopify_org There is nothing sustainable about your lifestyle. Your arrogance shows your "sustainability" is just a fashion accessory.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmR1pUg7q755Sx6OG by penguin@eveningzoo.club
       2023-05-18T13:06:55.071413Z
       
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 (DIR) Post #AVmR3LFhX9zBsEfT60 by penguin@eveningzoo.club
       2023-05-18T13:07:11.457363Z
       
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       jk ... They're ok 🙄
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmRMgIJWXV6dY6z8C by TheWeez@nicecrew.digital
       2023-05-18T13:10:41.083517Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       I knew you would post this
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmRUJBxIoSlInm5OC by matty@nicecrew.digital
       2023-05-18T13:12:03.715423Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       >sustainable life style>veganHow about you go sustain yourself some bitches lmao
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmRd7TCFmg5YO2Z4C by Red_Hat@nicecrew.digital
       2023-05-18T13:13:39.486003Z
       
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       Homosexuality is sustainable with captive heterosexuals.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmRdb0WQxZBA8r5XM by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2023-05-18T13:13:44.155314Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @matty @utopify_org They have no idea what a "sustainable" lifestyle is. They just repeat mass media talking points like a robot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmSN05U299tyhpIae by penguin@eveningzoo.club
       2023-05-18T13:21:56.911068Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       🤣🤣🤣
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmTMx8786WAl9b8SG by feralphilosophernc@nicecrew.digital
       2023-05-18T13:33:08.724707Z
       
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       That's because vegans are degenerate faggots who believe in evolution, but deny their teeth indicate heavy meat consumption.Also, you're generally weak and pathetic.  We mock you only because you so very richly deserve it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmU5xshBPY27YqjPU by Whitewall_Blasphemy@poa.st
       2023-05-18T13:41:16.765200Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @matty @utopify_org It means shift to flat out peasantry. Not even close to early agrarian animal husbandry with gardening.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmUejsZEaVEpVN4XQ by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2023-05-18T13:47:33.196081Z
       
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       @Whitewall_Blasphemy @matty @utopify_org it's the "dig the hole" meme. He thinks he is one of the good people who produces good culture things, and won't be doing pesanty things
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmYPejKUmheKj76YK by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T14:29:39.386539Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl @utopify_org “you can’t rely on the haber-bosch process forever.  sooner or later, you run out of natural gas”Natural gas is only the cheapest source of hydrogens to attached to nitrogen to make ammonia in the Haber-Bosch process.  As long as water is a thing, we’ll not be lacking in a source of hydrogen for it.A great deal of these “Limits to Growth” claims really reduce to “how expensive is X” and I’ll add we haven’t even begun to tap the resources in outer space.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmZJokoPipfdeaSHo by Whitewall_Blasphemy@poa.st
       2023-05-18T14:39:48.565432Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @matty @utopify_org I kinda wanna see what would happen to them in a South African economy. They would prolly try to move out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmZNqRe4M2w2bXg7U by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2023-05-18T14:40:32.044314Z
       
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       @Whitewall_Blasphemy @matty @utopify_org almost certainly
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmZssebuDclryPCRk by wizardmanperson@poa.st
       2023-05-18T14:46:08.754451Z
       
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       @utopify_org @ThatWouldBeTelling @animeirl @utopify_org @skylar perhaps, but we haven't tapped space for several reasons, and we don't look to be progressing in a path that that will be more achievable
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmaNmAO4lu0j507LU by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T14:51:43.738893Z
       
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       @wizardmanperson @animeirl @utopify_org @skylar So Falcon 9/Heavy/Starship + Super Heavy are chicken feed so to speak??Space flight needs to get a lot cheaper and some commodity on earth either needs to get a lot more expensive or Musk or a user of his systems needs to see an opportunity to undercut existing sources.Maybe look at platinum.  South Africa can’t keep the lights on, and RUSSIA!!! is not longer an acceptable source for anything that’s not super ultra vital.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmhEUxRO79cQWT6bQ by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T16:08:21.710485Z
       
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       @ThatWouldBeTelling @animeirl @utopify_org well we can't go to space either, until we get more nazi rocket scientists
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmiaO6TeVj3UfhGGe by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T16:23:01.819982Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl @utopify_org Musk is the Nazi African-American we need to get out into space.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmlweez4lPd4n98gi by Dozu@bae.st
       2023-05-18T17:01:17.246166Z
       
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       @utopify_org @utopify_org Thanks, this gave me just the motivation I need to get a leather jacket.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmrfn0vMXflmskYka by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T11:14:22Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann How did you even misinterpret the last few sentences? 😆 Hint: It's not the grass that humans should eat!
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmrfnYbLKbxTKVSF6 by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T18:05:22.837650Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann well, it’s the grass that grows on most of this grazeland so eat up buddy
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmvN81bQ5tdGZQNOq by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T18:05:28Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl ok, ok, first I have to remove all insinuations.Only because vegans don't buy leather, it doesn't mean they buy stuff made out of petrochemicals.I only buy organic food. No chemical pesticides are used.Telling someone who is living sustainable for about 6 years and is trying to improve it every day, that he have a midwit understanding of what sustainability is, is just insolent.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmvN8iqpIUVQheuoK by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T18:05:42Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl Your sources sounds like: "Trust me, bro!". I read books, studied the topic and occupy myself with agriculture and even grow my own food and everything without animals (or their crap). Overfertilization with animal manure is a big problem and is harming the planet a lot. Rivers and lakes near overfertilized fields get polluted and a lot of algaes grow because of the nutrition.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmvN9LUVdOpMXjm2S by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T18:46:49.086350Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl >I read booksyeah i can tell, you've internalized what a bunch of book nerds want you to believeif you think science is so great, how about an experiment?drive up to the high plains in western Nebraska, Wyoming east of the front range, or west Texas.  observe the surface water quality here in beef country.  walk through the a representative sample of pasture and count the number of different species of grasses, other plants, insects, birds, small mammals you can identify.then repeat the same observations in the corn belt, anywhere from Indiana to eastern Nebraska.  if animal agriculture is so harmful to the environment, then you'll find it worse in most if not all metrics.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmvNDDq61ehNyBifQ by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T18:05:50Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl Too many algaes, which is covering a lot and even throw a shadow on other life forms, which need the sun (e.g. photosynthesis). The consequences are death to a lot of animals like fish and other animals who live in water. Nitrate is another problem, which pollutes the groundwater. I could write a whole book about the bad consequences of animal manure, but those already exist, but one is fore sure: You don't need it to get healthy soil.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmvox9jQKMbfJUj3o by Saber@mugicha.club
       2023-05-18T18:51:49.957898Z
       
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       >if you put too much manure into the ground it's bad sometimes>therefore we must eliminate all manure-creating animals from the ecosystem
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmwHhupAMrmnPEUro by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T14:01:27Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom @utopify_org I've learned this in tech, using FLOSS software, psychology, etcThere is no right way to view anything.And there is no black and white, there is ways to accomplish your goal.Whatever that goal may be, i dont care. I care that you are trying something.Again ive said this a killabilljillon times before, life is a series of trying and then trying to compromise as least as possible.At the end, why do you care about this?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmwHkdv1g7tFqLXQu by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T14:08:53Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom @utopify_org Notice the reduce in the 'reduce, reuse, recycle'I mean just saying... I'm not a vegan at all, i block veganism.social from my own instance because they really do get annoying there.Why do i care? Well, I wish the best for anyone in pursuit of goals.Removing everything against your views is basically what genocide is(How fun that is)At some point you have to concede, and i will too. I havent seen much else  to talk about
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmwMZglBH3kjEyWsC by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T17:35:51Z
       
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       @fbievan @book @professorpowerbottom Calling it a genocide if you remove bad things in life, is a little bit exaggerated. It's like saying to someone who fought cancer successfully, that they did a genocide. It's not like the bad things in life have rights like a minority of humans and comparing this is a little bit crazy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmwPP0fLDxqTedOhE by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T11:19:21Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom And why do you think so?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmxeUhoXv4qROZpwW by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T19:03:25Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom @utopify_org I mean I see it in psychology there Is a more 'right' theory but often you see the truth is a combination of all
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmxnC80zBIdQjys76 by udongle@mugicha.club
       2023-05-18T19:14:00.067001Z
       
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       You think the solution to over industrialized animal husbandry is even more over industrialized global shipping of industrial almond farming.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmxyYLUiqO1WPhZrc by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T18:09:21Z
       
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       @ThatWouldBeTelling @animeirl @skylar Can someone explain to me why we talk about going to space now? Before we go to space, we should solve some problems on this planet, because we can't just go to another planet and exploit it, because there is none. Mars is a dead planet...
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmxyZ2O9MhJfRlpiq by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T19:15:23.293656Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl @skylar How about you fuck right off and stop telling other people they should do what you want them to instead of what you want them to do?  Are they your slaves, now or is that your ambition?We’ve been hearing this extinction level loser talk since the 1960s, and that after we in the US started a much more expensive and infinitely less successful “War on Poverty.”You also could use a  real STEM education if you think we can’t exploit Mars.Worse, looking at how you started this article, any diet including a vegan one needs not just nitrogen but also in the big three macronutrients phosphorus and potassium which we mine.More supplies of those might plausibly come from space, else we’re going to be recycling with methods likely more expensive in every way and that’ll also result in mass die offs.General lack of imagination or the very old Malthusian conceit, like the people who complain about soil loss without thinking what we could do with the Mississippi river delta or zillions of other sources of silt.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmyQvH34Kzsk09Me0 by Groomschild@poa.st
       2023-05-18T19:21:13.021388Z
       
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       @utopify_org @skylar @animeirl Algae is food for animals to. The ecosystem will balance itself back put as the algae eater population increases
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmz5JUQSFWxQbfP8a by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T18:26:44Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann Sorry, but you don't know how cows get feed. They don't eat only grass (like I wrote above) and btw. most livestock don't see the sun in their short lives at all. This would be expensive and people don't like expensive meat.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmz5KGzXgNXrEOBpw by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T18:43:43Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann ... or are you just focusing on the grass, because you are trying to do a joke here? If yes, I don't get it :DBut back to sustainability: Livestock gets fed with about 70% of the soy, which is grown world wide, which is a huge problem.Those resources could be eaten by humans directly, which would reduce methane and CO2 output a lot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmz5KofWTJjXg95KS by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T19:28:23.627994Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann yeah and then what are you going to replace it with? My meat is grown in my back yard, I don't care about the problem of overpopulation, I expect you to do your own part to reduce that. I live sustainably because I can. You don't even have the option because you're on a first world fad diet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmzObcbGUiBAIgovQ by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T19:31:23.535816Z
       
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       @diresock @utopify_org “Fun fact: 90% of vegans give up on this madness within 1 year, with the most commonly given reason being health concerns.”And the ones that don’t … one interesting Japanese cookbook writer from Hokkaido, the northernmost home island that’s big and cold where there are areas with doors on the second floor for snow accumulation said the vegans he knew in the US looked like the old timers there did by the end of winter.In my personal circle I knew only one, who really seriously screwed up his body even putting a lot of effort into getting a theoretically balanced diet.  The length and anatomy of our gut tells us we’re omnivores, or supposed to be….
       
 (DIR) Post #AVmzvcCU8N76W5DMum by caekislove@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-18T19:37:57.558110Z
       
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       @skylar @utopify_org This. We used to get free lunch WEEKLY at our office, until they hired a vegan who bitched and moaned until nobody gets free lunch anymore. Thanks, asshole!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn1IfnL2IiWHM0kvw by HWABAG@bae.st
       2023-05-18T19:53:20.491199Z
       
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       @utopify_org @sapphire @maxmustermann @utopify_org Animal products are part of a healthy diet and it’s scientifically proven that protein consumption is correlated with IQ in newborn children. Regenerative farming works and veganism is promoted by globohomo to keep you weak and stupid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn1QKweRHP3vn1Otc by BiggusDiccus@poa.st
       2023-05-18T19:29:30.280248Z
       
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       @utopify_org @utopify_orgVegans are all batshit crazy. Just as crazy as the troonytunes, but since veganism destroys your libido they don't touch kids. They've chemically castrated themselves, and are thus marginally more tolerable.@skylar @animeirl
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn2c4tC3lEvZ2ZCG8 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T18:59:10Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl You are comparing apples with pears here. Comparing animals (which actually see sun light and are allowed to be on grass) with conventionally grown veggies is just far from reality. It is pretty sure not much is growing or living in or nearby fields with synthetic pesticides (except of the thing the farmer wants). Again: I eat only organic food.Please compare it with an organic farm, if you can find one in Murica.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn2c5Rvyb1rImowPQ by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T20:07:57.863102Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl well if you get to pick an organic farm, i get to pick a grass fed cattle ranch where they've intentionally preserved or replanted native prairie grasses
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn2c6WZyoL4dU0AHw by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T19:00:16Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl btw. there is a really good documentary called Dominion, which is about the consequences about life stock with Joaquin Phoenix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9NiOwibz14
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn2lg3jESCnS14Vmq by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:00:07Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom Not really and I think a book which was written around 2,000 years ago can't solve modern problems, except if you just look for excuses and don't care for a solution.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn42wNptM6OxOGxMW by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:20:15Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann What do you mean with "what are you going to replace it with"? You don't have to replace anything if you would eat the stuff your food eats. Where does the topic overpopulation come from? And you expect me to reduce that? What exactly? Humanity?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn42wz3exsOopggNc by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T20:24:01.625529Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann okay, we're back to "eat grass and tell me how that works out" because that's what my food eats. Before you start bringing up bullshit I don't care about about global factory farming, please remember I eat the cows that grow in my back yard eating the grass that also grows in my back yard.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn42y3LgUu28Qhchs by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:22:28Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann  I am convinced that people extinguish themselves because they make excuses for their destructive lifestyles and then destroy themselves and the only thing that keeps them alive is modern medicine, making them die longer, instead of having a healthy life.The problem is that more freshly born people get conditioned to stick to a destructive lifestyle than people dying.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn4VwMF4BARH7M4VE by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:13:16Z
       
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       @ThatWouldBeTelling @animeirl @skylar What exactly triggered you, that you used the f-word? All what I was saying is that we should solve some problems on this planet first.btw. phosphorus and potassium aren't macro nutrients. But I get what you mean and we need much more nutrients for soil, but this can be solved with a natural cycle (organic farming does it already).Please explain it to me how Mars can be exploited, because all I see is a rusty ball.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn4VwsV8EyItARpmi by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T20:29:20.924110Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl @skylar “What exactly triggered you, that you used the f-word? All what I was saying is that we should solve some problems on this planet first.”Because you’re a liar?  And so arrogant you believe other people must bend to your will?  Something I see you’re not denying?We’ll never solve all the problems your kind believes need to be “solved first.”I didn’t make this clear but I’ve watched this play out in real time since the late 1960s, and 55 years later the list of “problems,” many if not most imaginary, that we must “solve first” is only growing larger.  You are in short an anti-human who deserves no quarter.  Don’t bother to reply because you’re muted now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn574gj3bMPpGdw1o by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:33:43Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann Wow, you are an exception, that's cool and that's much better than conventional grown meat. But it doesn't change anything on the worlds situation and on the bad impact of industrial livestock farming.And I can't believe that you never visit a fast food restaurant or order meat from other places.Do you really eat the cows, which live in your back yard, without any exceptions? And do you really only feed them with grass without exceptions?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn575IemZhZiuOE9Q by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T20:35:58.833906Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann "wow you have the option to live sustainably I BET THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS" this is what veganism does to your brain.Also since you didn't get it the first time, if you're complaining about overpopulation do your part to reduce the population by one before you advocate for others doing the same, especially since you're insisting on living a life that's only sustainable by the wonders of industrial society.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn62kx0b9BLPJlQsi by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:45:36Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann I really would like to reduce the population by one or even more, but I am not allowed to kill people, who built up their lives on lies, excuses and made up concepts to destroy the planet even more, I live in freedom and harmony on. They have rights, too. #satire btw. when did I advocate others to reduce population? All I am trying to do is to convince people to get a healthy life style and stop destroying the planet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn62ldC4IvTW9V7dQ by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T20:46:25.916401Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann by convincing them to get on a diet that relies on global shipping? You're doing an extremely poor job and you should kill the only person you have a right to kill: yourself.Where do you get your vitamin B12 by the way?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn6dSEj8k7W54YCqe by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:48:09Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl And the winner is organic farm, because my food doesn't fart all day. 😜
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn6dVJRheg3cZmW7U by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
       2023-05-18T20:53:00.145495Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl Hitler's gassiest cow on its way to rip ass upwind of a synagogue
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn6nH7LKr4SUWmPOC by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:53:17Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann Again: Soy grows far away, which gets shipped to cows, which are far away, which get slaughtered for their meat. QUADRILLION times more global shipping with a meat diet instead of vegan.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn6nHgnD3QYGTMie0 by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T20:54:49.826797Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann again, cows in my back yard, sustainability is at least possible with my diet. Also didn't answer my question unsurprisingly
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn74gGt4CpPQaXlZI by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:26:26Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom No, those problems are pretty new. Most of them started with the industrial age and they are not there forever, because human kind will extinguish. We literally kill ourselves, because of ignorance.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn7RuswtmtfPdQUoi by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T21:01:39Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom Please stop writing in riddles, every sentence of you has a huge potential to interpret it like I want.It's like the bible. Who is the person on the pic?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn7xEymEvSei55ZWC by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:57:09Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann Please try to get it finally, that not the whole world can live like you. We need a solution, which works on a lot of people not only on one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVn7xFXAB4y0QjB27E by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T21:07:49.319278Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann yeah the solution is less population. Lead the charge buddy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnAziwM7H8o4dpeAS by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T20:55:12Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann And before I answer your question about B12, I have to tell you that most live stock on the planet get their B12 over supplements, because it's not possible to get B12 if you are locked in a room for your whole life.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnAzjdFXnS6Dftu1g by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T21:06:42Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann Didn't get a reaction to this fact... unsurprisingly...
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnAzkChPzoBzcUDHU by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T21:41:52.774016Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann because it doesn’t apply to me. Maybe you should stop reading off the card and realize you’re talking to me, not factory farming.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnDNKlppWgRyHITNw by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T21:50:59Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann Well, that's true!btw. are you feed and kill the cows in your back yard by yourself?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnDNLQbNxIG0iN1vc by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T22:08:34.726244Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann I know the guy that does it, since he’s my neighbor and I’m not an antisocial retard, is that good enough for you
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnEL7t6rA8ZOKD7su by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T22:18:46Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann Why do you think I would call you an antisocial retard, only because you eat meat?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnEL8ZeJ0AHWG76Bs by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T22:19:22.687875Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann you seem like the kind of person who has no concept of community so I figured I'd clarify.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnENorS3P2VFXiezA by diresock@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-05-18T22:19:56.505588Z
       
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       @ThatWouldBeTelling @utopify_org The ones that don't give up later.Human beings are not omnivores, we require meat to thrive, and you are deluding yourself if you thing otherwise.Omnivorous animals have a longer intestines than us, and additional enzymes that humans don't have.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnF3r0QTCeq41xcmG by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-18T22:24:25Z
       
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       @sapphire @maxmustermann And there is another allegation. Never had so much of them within a few hours...Anyway, why do you think - out of the nowhere - that I seem like a person, who has no concept of community? I even lived in sustainable communities, but I guess you are denial about this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnF3rY6Rzb1kTiWGm by sapphire@needs.vodka
       2023-05-18T22:27:27.151552Z
       
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       @utopify_org @maxmustermann so many* Thanks for leaking that you're ESL and your opinion can be directly discarded though, saves me some time I could otherwise spend working
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnIHDR2go2nFpTPGK by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
       2023-05-18T23:03:33.919053Z
       
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       @diresock You sure you’re not confusing herbivores, eats plants, with omnivores, “omni” meaning all, as in we can eat and survive on both plants and animals?  This is the first time I’ve ever heard of humans not being in the latter category.“Thrive” is not a requirement, and even then not a whole lot of meat is required for humans to thrive as long as they get enough fats.  Which of course normally come along with eating meat.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnIoyHrW3KC7SH82C by diresock@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-05-18T23:09:40.156739Z
       
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       @ThatWouldBeTelling> the first time I’ve ever heard of humans not being in the latter category.Dietary science has been consistently wrong for decades, and changes radically every so often.Ask anyone who actually looks healthy, and whose family live long lives, and they all eat meat.> Thrive is not a requirement, the not a whole lot of meat is required...That's an evil statement to make.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVoiiOIxB14ekbGi12 by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
       2023-05-19T15:34:29.611090Z
       
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       @utopify_org @sapphire The stop supporting garbage business pract... Oh, I forgot. Your argument is based on American corpo practices where pigs get Holocausted, because the restaurants have been shut down and slaughter houses burn down on regular basis.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVpqTMRzNIK8cWIeJM by professorpowerbottom@seal.cafe
       2023-05-20T01:37:56.279570Z
       
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       plus microplastics enter the brain within 1 hour of consumption, it's already in women's embryos too
       
 (DIR) Post #AVpqzqqPuEY09VDb04 by professorpowerbottom@seal.cafe
       2023-05-20T01:38:29.958511Z
       
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       yeah go become a vegan and recycle instead of doing anything about the corps lol
       
 (DIR) Post #AVpvoGOTaVlJgiRXAe by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-20T05:33:24Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom Why are those discussions are always ending with racist stuff?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVpwR978aTT0P7sENM by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-20T05:42:16Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom Well, #racism can't solve the problem with #speciesism Otherwise half of the world would be #vegan 😆
       
 (DIR) Post #AVpwvLu7bAxWl9Bmcq by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-20T05:44:58Z
       
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       @professorpowerbottom @book Why this allegation?Vegans do much more against bad corps than others on this planet. They are known to be mindful and asking questions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVpxcKGvXi6U9KLc1o by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-20T05:51:11Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom Dude, you really need some help! Get out of your racist conspiracy bubble and meet some people in real life or at least get some fresh air.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVpy1jmbpYHeVgHeZk by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-20T06:00:11Z
       
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       @book @professorpowerbottom You are a little bit too right, if you know what I mean...At least open a window to let your brain get some fresh air.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWD8odP6TRAXjZ3mdM by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-05-31T10:20:02.407076Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl @utopify_org or be lazy and have pigs do the work :brain9: https://morningchores.com/tilling-garden-with-pigs/
       
 (DIR) Post #AWD91Nk01HHuv8ucsq by charliebrownau@poa.st
       2023-05-31T10:22:21.118113Z
       
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       @skylar @animeirl @utopify_org We need to go back to WoodMetalCob/AdobeHempStone
       
 (DIR) Post #AWE0dyDk8GM0dS6tQe by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-05-31T20:17:01Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @animeirl @skylar@wolfgirl.bar I don't exploit animals.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWE0dywPSC5Crz0Z3A by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-05-31T20:23:09.918379Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl god forbid you let nature tend to herself 🙄have fun eating petroleum and watching the farm land waste away to bedrock from mechanized production.Actually I'm willing to bet something you don't see farm land much so you probably won't notice.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWF9ns5SsvE1Fnzh7Q by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T07:20:21Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @animeirl Maybe you should check someone profile, before spreading bullshit on the Internet. But your name already contains "Disinformation" and you are from a shitposter instance.I really don't get you people? Why spreading shit?
       
 (DIR) Post #AWF9nstRt5CvkpNc1o by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T09:40:30.932457Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl oh sorry didn't realized you tilled a patch of grass. I did browse your website a little bit. I don't believe in man made utopias, although I do believe man is creating a very big dystopia.Just realize every time you run through the soil 20% of the biomatter is ejected into the air. Pigs are far less wasteful and damaging when they root. Not to mention rooting is a natural habit for the pig that makes them truly happy.Chickens speed up breakdown of compost too doing what is natural to them. Using animals to do work by leveraging their natural behaviors is different from harnessing draft horses to a plow. It's literally working with nature instead of against it, but go on and have fun fucking up your space.People who take the names of people on fedi seriously should maybe use less internet.> I really don't get you people? Why spreading shit?Are you referring to shitposters or advocates of animal manure as fertilizer? It wasn't quite clear.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFAXjgITCwqVK5kjg by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T09:48:48.865970Z
       
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       @sapphire @utopify_org don't you see he tilled a patch of grass up? he farmer now
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFBOmt7HIT7nWNvqS by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T09:58:24.100181Z
       
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       @utopify_org @book because tilling the same land over and over is destructive. Top soil erosion and nutrient loss are real effects of mechanized farming.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFBogxDxi0mvKetDU by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:03:05.035783Z
       
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       @utopify_org @book pigs can eat a lot of different food. Their dietary needs aren't much different from ours. They are omnivores. If you plan on using them on a farm you can grow things they eat and move them around so they don't end up completely wrecking a spot. They don't have to be fed on concrete in miserable conditions that's just how industry does it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFBuTUwu7hovbBsUC by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T09:56:08Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @animeirl It's always the one with the biggest co2 footprint who point on others.I don't think I will take any "advice" from a meat eating shit poster who is polluting the planet all day.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFBuUFk698VGj5FQG by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:04:07.548611Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl lmfao biggest co2 footprint. How many trees have you planted in your life?
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFDZiOYWSxCxOQehc by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T10:03:24Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @book@sneed.social Maybe you could say this to your conservative farmer friends, because if they wouldn't destroy the planet so much, we could have a better life on this planet. Oh, and btw. synthetic pesticides are even worse if it's about destruction.But let me guess, you already have those old lies about organic farming in your mind, which I already read from other people from the shitposter club.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFDZj3g3Zqb0vfUnY by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:22:46.997802Z
       
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       @utopify_org all I do is organic farming. I tilled a long time ago and realized very quickly that all it did was wake up latent weed seeds in the soil. Later I learned about how much is lost when you till.It isn't a "conservative" vs "liberal" farmer problem. Nearly all large farms are doing the same things and it doesn't matter what their politics are. Making it about politics shows you don't understand the actual issues.Also I don't use pesticides or herbicides. I would say that the damage done by pesticides is likely worse when on tilled soil because that soil doesn't hold moisture and erodes much easier than healthy soil.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFDgTXa9K8WuisHRY by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T10:04:43Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @book@sneed.social Yes, that's right! But you have them there to kill and to eat them. You don't care about living beings.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFDgUHfNz03DeR5H6 by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:24:00.399954Z
       
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       @utopify_org lmao I raise my animals with love. All of my animals are happy and some of my happiest moments are when I stop to appreciate how much they are enjoying their lives.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFELgMbNYUQYYO5YG by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T10:11:26Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @animeirl Uncountable! I even donate money to plant trees. How much meat did you eat in your life? 1kg of beef needs:- 15000 liters of water- Grains: up to 10kg- agricultural area: up to 50m²- 22kg of CO2 emissionsTell me more about your "sustainable" life style. And if I tell people like you that the food of the animal could be eating by humans, the answer is always: "I don't eat grass! It's not natural to eat grass"... *building up their stories on allegations*
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFELh2mqiEYfO7mIy by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:31:26.327274Z
       
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       @utopify_org @animeirl > donates money to plant treesOh yeah that's the same thing lmao. Charities are always making sure the money is spent appropriately :smirk: As far as the resources in beef, the beef I eat is pasture raised on a farm about 20 minutes from here. Their inputs are also local. They don't eat grains because grass is free, and grass fed beef is healthier to eat anyway. I eat the seeds from some of the grasses they eat but no I'm not interested in eating grass. Yes they take up space, but so do you and your value to the planet isn't obvious.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFHZ1Qpf4oaD5MKe by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T10:35:50Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere Funny, because I thought you are against anything like those other shitposters on your instance.As soon as I write something about organic farming, they go nuts. Almost as crazy as writing something about veganism.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFHbbJFExoa3t2X2 by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:41:53.763048Z
       
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       @utopify_org maybe just read what I write instead of assuming I'm like someone else you met on the internet :shrug: There is a difference between organic farming and being vegan understand. Plenty of meat is grown organically. All the birds in my yard are cage free (one is in jail for eating eggs but I'll be letting her out in a week) and eat a fully organic diet. I don't have enough space to grow all of their food so I do buy feed, but it's organic and sourced regionally (the company works with farms across 5 states). I also make my own compost and plant primarily heirloom varieties of seed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFLOedJyFtaQFVq4 by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T10:37:25Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere Your post reminded me of this... "I love animals"
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFLPRCPP6U12yIXQ by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:42:36.345341Z
       
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       @utopify_org lol dogs gotta eat
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFPhfEaMNnhbaGLQ by lina@eientei.org
       2023-06-01T10:43:18.065137Z
       
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       @utopify_org @thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club:ryukowtf:TOTAL HOHOL DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFRoFv34yGj1kOZc by lina@eientei.org
       2023-06-01T10:43:41.247753Z
       
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       @utopify_org @thatguyoverthere lol messed up mention
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFZF2jqtLVpe7sX2 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2023-06-01T10:45:07.269779Z
       
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       @utopify_org @thatguyoverthere @animeirl Water usage claims on beef are the biggest lie and simplest to dispute. There's published papers from the 90s that completely contradict them as well as testimony from various ranchers in arid areas. They're off by orders of magnitude and nobody calls them out. The water cycle exists, but we have to pretend otherwise. As if rain hitting a pasture somehow means that California's almonds won't survive. Boo hoo.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8478283/#fft>Estimation of the water requirement for beef production in the United StatesJ L Beckett et al. J Anim Sci. 1993 Apr.>The model estimates 3,682 L of developed water per kilogram of boneless meat for beef cattle production in the United States.Compared that to the following:sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308521X18305675>Environmental footprints of beef cattle production in the United States C. Alan Rotz, Greg ThomaReferenced in infographic.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFcL2i0DPBJ9aZ8q by ringo@talk-here.com
       2023-06-01T10:45:39.153260Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @utopify_org https://yeshuafreedom.com/w/e1Fo1wW48TSx8Ydntf1kC8docu: regenerative farming: back to eden
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFnvnJhVJITcuvTM by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
       2023-06-01T10:47:45.938710Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @animeirl @utopify_org yeah one thing about seed diets is that you need to drink more water. Same with rabbits. If you feed pellet they go through water like it's going out of style, but feed them some weeds and grass from the yard and they drink half or less.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFFoNjjoP5J8dSSmW by utopify_org@social.linux.pizza
       2023-06-01T10:45:12Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere That's so nice of you. Keep up the good work!
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFGTi0fLGv9t359rU by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2023-06-01T10:55:19.343597Z
       
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       @thatguyoverthere @animeirl @utopify_org I don't even have a problem with vegans or vegetarians who do it for ethical reasons. I think factory farming is horrible, but a ton of plant and animal diversity exists solely because of animal husbandry and land management practices. We are by nature omnivores, and we don't have the digestive tract to be herbivores. We can't process cellulose-b like an herbivore. We can't produce herbivore specific amino acids. The lies some of these people tell in their crusade are very foolish.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWFYu9QxnhUte58o9w by bane@www.banepo.st
       2023-06-01T14:21:46.035387Z
       
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       @utopify_org I wouldn't enslave an animal to keep it in my house as a "pet". Baby turtles are super cute, but I'd still eat turtle stew if I lived in a place where turtles were a natural source of food. Chickens exist all over the world, therefore I eat their eggs cooked in ample amounts of butter (you can get almost complete daily nutrition from a handful of chicken eggs). Some chickens are very cool, and most are cute. I eat them sometimes because cooked the right way, they taste good. I don't think cows are cute, but they are docile, so that's a bonus while raising them. Their meat and fat has the best nutritional composition of all the animals, so it's a good thing it tastes so good. Pigs can be pretty cute. I eat them too. Their lard is useful in so many ways. I also eat real vegetables, such as cabbages, alliums, curcubits, capsicum, roots, and tubers. Unfortunately, no amount of vegetables will provide a human body with total nutrition, and therefore a human will die on such a diet. There are nutrients that humans require that can only be acquired by eating other animals. It is a biological fact. Easily proven by the dead vegan children (I'm sure you've seen the news reports) whose parents are sent to jail soon after. Just like a vegan cat, you know it wasn't the child who chose that diet.You live your life in the most toxic way possible. You do it daily. You are the number one unsustainable polluter. You are, essentially, evil. Your "meat free" diet is not only toxic, but you don't even eat real vegetables. You consume a diet where your calories come from seed/soybean oil and sugar, and then you bulk it out with more soybeans and grains (aka sugar) and toxic waste chemicals to make it all palatable to your destroyed taste buds. Though, at this point, your brain function is so limited that you probably find the natural flavors of real food to be disgusting compared to the slop chemical concoctions with which you sustain your damaged body. The food you demand is at least one hundred times more damaging to the environment than any natural farming of animals and real vegetables. You actively dump toxins into the water system and outgas it constantly into the air, and you demand the same of the manufacturers of what you consume. Your "fabrics" are all plastic. Everything else you own is also plastic. You "recycle" all your plastic right back into the water and food systems (because there's no such thing as recycling plastic). You inform every industry to continue to mass produce the most environmentally damaging products that exist because you continue to purchase their disposable garbage that you consume daily.I guarantee you regularly buy "dish soap" (detergent), "laundry soap" (detergent), "antiperspirant" or "deoderant", "toothpaste" (detergent), "shampoo" (detergent), "cleaner" (detergent), and many more toxic, disposable consumer products. None of them necessary for human function or health. All of them toxic waste diverted into little bottles that good goys purchase because they've been told that they're necessary to live. All of them toxic to the human body and the environment.