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 (DIR) Post #AVhwV8lbX15ujAPOWe by ChrisMayLA6@zirk.us
       2023-05-16T08:24:57Z
       
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       This morning @sjwrenlewis has posed a really interesting Q.:Will the #Greens be able to enact the sort of influence that UKIP had on the #Tories (from the right) on a Labour Govt. (from the Left).Its a really interesting idea & worth reading this morning; many think the Greens need #proportionalrepresentation to really impact on #politics, SWL's analysis suggests that if UKIP could do it then so might the Greens.... even if you don't agree its an interesting read!https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2023/05/why-is-there-asymmetry-in-how-insurgent.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AVhwV9UGqwp6xhJ49A by RolloTreadway@neurodifferent.me
       2023-05-16T08:56:25Z
       
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       @ChrisMayLA6 @sjwrenlewis It's an interesting article.There's one thing that I feel is missing, however. The defining UKIP policy - leaving the EU - was an absolute, yes/no issue. And it was one on which mainstream party leaderships held the opposite position to UKIP.However, on core Green issues, there is no absolute. Labour do have green policies; it can be reasonably argued that they don't go far enough, but it's not as if there's a defining policy for the Green party on which Labour are implacably opposed. Consequently, there's less scope to pick up mainstream centre-left votes.If anything, I'd wonder if - in the short to medium term - the Greens can gain more from ecologically-minded centre-right voters. Unlike many European countries, there is no green conservative presence in UK politics (yet), but given that there's no possibility of the Green party winning the next election (and consequently no possibility of Green party left wing policies being enacted), I wouldn't be at all surprised if a number of alienated Tories treated the Greens as a single-issue protest vote, as left-leaning eurosceptics did with UKIP in the 2010s.